How confident are you that your phone hasn't been shipped with these malware preinstalled?
Anyone (including their friends and family, also government officials) could be a potential victim of the Asian Spygate.
Your thought?
Border Agents of an Asian Government Installed Malicious Malware on a Tourist's Smartphone. Your Thoughts?
[Deactivated] on 06/06/2018 - 16:57
Last edited 06/06/2018 - 18:27
Last edited 06/06/2018 - 18:27
Poll Options
- 4I am scared, it might be infected.
- 1I need to check. This should be addressed.
- 0It is impossible.
Comments
Not clear as of yet, in the making. More to come.
So you're fine with the government watching everything you do on your device provided they don't do anything "bad"?
No, but I’m realistic enough to know that my telecom and internet use is already stored by the Australian government, with the data available to such bastions of security as the local council and RSPCA.
The horse has bolted as far as our government, and any of the 5 eyes are concerned.I have concerns for people involved in sensitive areas, whistle blowers, people who could be exposed/blackmailed etc. but again, the risks from state security forces aren’t really something it is feasible to counter for day to day use. All you can do is make it harder by using encryption etc.
Am I worried about non-state actors? A little, but i figure the biggest risks are manageable with reasonable security precautions and good back ups.
The web is full of people panicking that their devices are compromised, yet they keep voting for governments that lead the way in compromising their privacy and security. Shrug..
the risks from state security forces aren’t really something it is feasible to counter for day to day use
Actually it's relatively simple to counter state surveillance in Australia currently for example by paying for a VPN service or using Tor Browser - which is why the intelligent services are currently trying to make seeking privacy an illicit behavior.
As well as arguing that it should be illegal to not have backdoors (which totally aren't backdoors because only people with warrants will use them) as though that makes any sense.
Thats been happening literally since 2001 unimpeded. What's the big deal now. I even posted this reply at 9.11pm. Coincidence?!?!?! I think not
No info in this post. So no thoughts.
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I don't own a Tourist Smartphone, haven't even heard of that brand.
This has happened before in the past mainly with Chinese phones. If you ever buy a china brand phone like Xiaomi flash it with a custom reliable ROM.
The question is, how do you know any other brand is not infected? Aren't they all made in China?
iphone are safe. they're also are made in china.
How so? If you buy it online or from overseas, how do you know? Many people here think differently.
https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/8ofiiw/chinese_bo…
https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/8ouq1m/scary_crossp…Yes, they are made in China but the software is not.
It's OS based not hardware based. Most spy app hides or embeds themselves in other apps making it appear if it was there all along. The only real way to check is to monitor the IP of each app to see where they are going. But to be more sure stick with stock Android. Apple IMO is the safer option as it is much harder to download unsigned apps on to the device without a profile being installed or having to use a computer to side load it.
mainly with Chinese
So I guess you have your head buried in the sand when it comes to the NSA, GCHQ and the Australian Government then?
But this is the Chinese government, They bend the rules and go to more extream way to extract data from people over the world like US, AUS and UK etc just to build a database and steal trade secrets. I rather have a known government monitor my activities then someone I don't trust.
This has happened with the CIA intercepting and installing malware into Cisco(?) routers. Everyone does it, to everyone else. If you don't think the US Government - with the help of their pets in ASIO and ASIS - already has access to all our communications, I want some of what you're smoking.
Wow now that's food for thought!
I bought a TV that was made in China and it has an inbuilt camera. Do you think maybe those sneaky little Chinese are secretly filming everything I do?Hory shirt! Now you reminded me of my SmartTV that wakes up every now and then and I had to harness it with a Xiomi smart plug! Things are getting real scary!
ThanksUsing Wireshark, monitor its network traffic to see where packets are being routed.
Least i can blame the porn on my phone on someone else
Its pretty scary. Makes me think I should start taking computer security a little more seriously
I'm confident that the majority of phones have hardware tracking in them that can't be disabled. This is either endorsed by the phone manufacturer themselves, or embedded by the part manufacturer before it gets to the factory. Information is power and the powerful governments of the US and China would have well and truly set this up either surreptitiously or via force.
I have no evidence of this - only the knowledge that we are continually surprised that our privacy is more eroded each year by espionage. What government wouldn't have put this on the whiteboard a decade ago?
'an Asian country' lmao.
Wheres the I don't care selection?
This from today's Age.
https://www.theage.com.au/technology/huawei-s-p20-pro-is-an-…My biggest concern on malware would be people getting into sensitive areas like my banking; the two part authentication I use involves SMS to my phone so that would be a large security hole. I don't use the banking apps on my phone so they would, presumably, need to hack into both my computer and my phone to do this effectively. I try to keep an eye on my accounts to check for odd activity and buy with credit cards so I have recourse.
My personal opinion is anyone checking my communications would be incredibly bored by what they found. However, as the article says, if I was a high flying CEO or had a sensitive job I would be very careful of the technology I use because it may be infected with Malware. I'm not overly concerned about our Government tracking me; they are having enough trouble tracking criminals and threats to security to worry about me. Even the boogy man of video piracy appears to have gone off the boil.
dont care.
once you access internet (like open email or just whasapp) there is no more privacy. just accept it or do not online at all.
How confidant are you that the Australian/USA governments haven't installed malware on your phone?
Even if there's no malware/backdoors, there's legislation coming to hand over your phone/device to any law enforcement officer who asks.
Your papers, please!
What is the malware doing that is of concern? Have there been any negative consequences (as opposed to 'fears')?