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Intel Core i7 8700K 16GB 500GB M.2 NVMe 2TB GTX1080Ti Gaming Computer Desktop PC $2,623.20 Delivered @ eBay PC Byte
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Amazing computer, bought it during the last 20% deal and it rocks
AS a none IT/PC person who needs a new gaming pc, how loud would this be when running graphic demanding games?
My current one sounds like a jet is about to take off…. ;(There's no way to say without knowing parts used.
As a PC builder it looks avg for noise but it depends which gfx they put in, you maybe able to relocate the radiator to the bottom to reduce perceived noise by a couple dB. I find tempered glass quite good at noise isolation, but it's not going to be quiet when pushed.
The specs are nice though.What do you use now? Perhaps your build uses unusually loud parts
And if you claim it as a business expense you don't pay tax either, sweet!
any dodgey parts? I hear they generally provide dodgey PSUs
Top specs on that rig. But the case doesn't support optical drive. Do I need to buy a USB external DVD/BR player/writer etc?
Yep
I think the questions is do you really need an optical drive?
This, horrible things. Just buy a dirt cheap external if you need one.
Yeah, I thought I needed one on the one i built 2 years ago. Have used the optical drive twice in that 2 year period. they've become pretty pointless now for a lot of people.
I personally am a fan of using a USB optical drive. I used a USB extension cable and mounted the optical drive underneath my desk for easy access
Both practical and discrete.
I lol'ed at discrete.
Guess this guy has kept all his pr0n cds =p
And discreet
Unless you are watching movies on it most games install via internet these days, If you were watching movies do it on a big telly :)
What about cheap deals like that $5 Battlefield 1 for PC is there just a code in the case or is there a CD with actually something on the physical medium/storage?
Most new PC games are just download codes in the cases these days and if they weren't it would have a 20gig update, I find it easy to just sit back and let it download where old games I would have to wait to install and swap up to 5 discs.. Just looked at BF1 and it is only a code too !
Code in a box. Bought SW:BF2 this way only to end up downloading off Origin anyway.
@jace88: oh wow that's pretty sad kinda end of an era. I always thought they would ship out with at least the base game or something to save on data for those still on quotas.
Or have the old fancy manuals.. rip
Press F to pay respects.
Just an observation. The front of the case is very flat, with no spots for the CD drive.
What would you need an optical drive for? Nothing useful comes on discs anymore
Motherboard drivers etc come on discs. They are obviously uncool now but for $19 or whatever they are worth having even if you rarely use it imo.
A lot of PC Byte's builds have gone up about $400 since December-March.
This is an exception given it was originally priced at $3600, but I strongly recommend avoiding this as it's a huge markup from buying the parts and (easily) assembling it yourself.
This doesn't look too huge of a mark up
It's not but it's not much of a bargain either just save on shipping costs really and maybe a few dollars here or there not a blockbuster bargain.
You're paying at least a $250 premium for it being built, and that's assuming the parts are high quality (they're not specified).
My friend bought a PC off them and it had a 300W PSU with the model of 500W. Some dodgy branding by Asian company where the actual wattage is written in small print but the model happens to have the same name as the power rating lol
We had to upgrade his PSU as the GPU they put in was maxing the PSU it came with and causing it to just suddenly cut out.
Other than that the PC was a great bargain at the time and it can play anything we threw at it.
People who buy this don't care about building a system themselves. There's benefits on convenience and whole package warranty from the retailer.
There aren't that many conveniences, and basic PC maintenance and diagnostics are little more cumbersome than checking and changing the oil on a car. Your warranty isn't going to save you from a software fault, for example.
If you can build a table from Ikea, you can definitely build a PC. If you want peace of mind and convenience, buying a pre-built box from a company that doesn't offer phone and software support isn't your best option, to put it mildly.
It's only easy to build a PC if you're inclined to do so. My experience has been that when there's an issue with something, each individual part maker blames the other part makers. You can be without a PC, for a very long time, waiting on RMA's (which is after you finally narrow down your issue).
Most people are smart enough to wield a screwdriver but computer trouble-shooting, when something goes wrong, is another story. I build all of mine, but I wouldn't suggest it to most people I know.
Imho
@Geekomatic: personally I can build it but the power connectors always get me that and my poor cable management skills not like this would be much better.
But yeah sometimes things just don't click and you are left wondering where did I stuff up or did I just break that?
@Geekomatic: in buying all your parts, you'd still have the option of dealing with the store you purchased them from if you so wished.
As for on-site/phone support, this offers absolutely nothing. As I was hinting at, if you want something more comprehensive than parts slapped together, you should be buying something like a Dell.
While I do agree with you, since I build all of my computers, you underestimate the general population's perception on PC building. It seems a rather apprehensive task when in fact it isn't so hard. However, simply put, people can't be stuffed. This is why there are car wash services and restaurants. Sure you can do it yourself, but sometimes, you just CBF.
So who buys this? Surely, if you're buying a 1080ti system, you've got to be into PCs, right? Not necessarily. Some kids just want the best and they know the 1080ti is the best, and then ask their parents to buy it for them. Some of my friends are way beyond the PC-building phase and just want something easy and pre-installed. Yes, to them, their time is worth more than the cost of building it themselves, because they have better things to do. How you determine that $250 value is not your business, though. You may think it a waste. They would not.
TLDR: Some people don't care. You do you.
Pretty rare for any software support to be included with the purchase of a PC. If you want software support you can take your PC down to any PC repair shop.
@shiny1: that's all fair, but this is supposed to be a bargain website. Just don't see this is as a bargain compared to what they were offering at the start of the year.
I think it was $1800 for a slightly stripped down version of this (1080, 8 gb RAM, 128 GB SSD)?
Here we go: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/365637
@jasswolf: Damn, that is better value. I would say the upgraded parts would command a $600 price difference, not $900. So maybe the deal itself isn't as good as it's made out to be.
I'd say over 100 million people on Earth can build an IKEA table but not a PC.
@shiny1: yeah they are either way overpricing the 1080Ti in this one or the 1080 deal was just a really good deal.
Intel Hexa-Core i7 8700K [6 Cores 12 Threads] [Base 3.7Ghz Max Turbo 4.7GHz] 8th Generation CPU $498 ($420 lowest I have seen on ozbargain delivered in my lifetime)
CPU 120mm Liquid Cooler $70
Intel Z370 motherboard $160 (can be as low as $100 to as high as $190 for higher end decent boards)
500GB M.2 NVMe $270 (definitely could be lower)
2TB HDD $80 (definitely could be lower but best prices I have seen is about $30/TB)
GTX 1080ti $1150 (definitely been lower but maybe not buy much, I have seen GTX 1080's for as low as $660-$700)
16GB 2400MHz DDR4 RAM $200
750W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply $120
InWin 805C ATX Mid Tower Case $140
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit $10-40?Total roughl bad estimate $2698 - $2738 Not including delivery costs for each individual item versus this prebuilt machine for $2623.20 delivered.
The choice is up to you.
Prices are all from brand new staticice search engine.. with some rough leeway so yeah it's basically roughly the same probably less because you don't have to pay shipping for each individual item. But then you don't get to have the fun of building it.
Note there are no case fans in this and they are pretty beefy high end specs so..
And personally I would want an optical drive that can read blu-ray and DVD drives for that moment when it is just in case. Not everyone is up to the bleeding edge or date yet so better safe than sorry I say.
TL;DR it's a good price but I wouldn't be sad to pass on this imho unless I really really wanted a beast pc and didn't want to wait to save some more money
You've got some incredible markups on the 1080ti and the SSD compared to current prices. The whole point of a pre-built should be to save money while getting install and delivery, or gain some sort of extra warranty coverage.
This offers neither, and charges for something like 4 hours of labour on a system that would take a professional less than 20 minutes to build.
20 mins?? It's take 20 mins. just to get the stuff out of their boxes! C'mon. You know it takes a lot longer to assemble than that— and cable tidying can be a nightmare, depending on the board, pin headers, and case. Be fair.
This might not be the end-all deal of all time, but it's pretty solid— with warranty.
20 minutes rushed, 40 minutes tops.
The rest is installing Windows (a handful of clicks then you walk off for 30 minutes), drivers (some extra clicks) and stress testing (some extra clicks, then a 2+ hour wait).
@jasswolf: installing windows + drivers is probably done off the network so they would just pick which spec they built and then the deployment system would handle the rest of the install automatically
I must admit I got a bit sloppy and tired doing this so it's not the absolute best but all prices are from staticice and not individually hunted down from this site and other places.
Personally I could probably hunt this build down for near half the price if I really wanted to maybe 65% of this price if I'm not too pushy could be lower depending on my aggressive haggling skills and timing.
What's your guess for the prices on the ssd and 1080ti I'm curious to know if it's something like $1000 or better as for ssd personally NVMe is around that price if not maybe a few dollars not so much more.
Personally I could probably hunt this build down for near half the price
Yeah, i think you overestimate your haggling skills a bit there.
I'm estimating $950 for the 1080ti, $180 for the SSD, so $290 less than what you've stated.
@Diji1: oh man when you see some of the deals I have got.. Ok half is very generous but definitely 1/3
Easy. I don't stop until I get what I want. Gumtree rapist.
It would take me a good 5hrs to build one neatly and that's assuming there were no surprises, 1~2hrs after building the 1st… my first job was building PC's in the 90's.
It's a lot more paint by numbers these days. The majority of the time would be spent after the build, stress testing the machine (at least I assume they do this), but that requires little hands-on work.
I presume that 5hrs is
Call the store and make sure they have the parts in stock, 30min-45min drive over, wait 15min in line, 30-45min drive back home
30min lunch break
5min motherboard install, 20min PSU/cable management
15min windows install, 5 min video driver download+install, 3hrs waiting for windows to update itself.
@Agret: Na, I spend most time doing cable management and layout… I think you should never see cables in a neat build, and they need to be the correct length. Sometimes the cables need sleeving or shrink wrapping or connectors crimped.
If the PC needs gfx water block, that always turns into a PitA, pump, cutting tubes, reservoir, bleeding and radiator layout.
With new builds I do an airflow test with smoke/vapour… +1hr assuming no layout changes. If the case doesn't have a clear side, then it needs an acrylic side sealed.
Proper lighting (if that's your thing) can take time too as I think you should never be able to see the LEDs.
For a >$2k PC you should really spend the time getting it right.
Burn in is 4hrs on our open test bench, and not included… DOA parts are definitely less than they used to be but still ~2%.
Those Gaming mATX rigs are a real pain bcos they need good airflow in a cramped case.
I always think it's going to be an hour job, but then it always turns in to 5hrs.
You could just throw it all together in 40mins… but with a clear side that's just wrong.
Why are you obsessed by having optical drives lel? PC really doesn't use those anymore … they're about 20 bucks if you must have one.
For da retro gamers mostly and probably because I might do random stuff like pickup a free or $2 DVD somewhere just for the heck of it.. DVD game that is.. I dunno. I just remember using DVD drive for most of my old games so nostalgia.
You never know who might be throwing out their DVD game collection anytime soon.
Or heck DVD adult collection ;)
crack.exe and porn.exe
Problem solved.
Heres my list from PcPartPicker.AU and using cheapest available prices and NOT inc Delivery or Windows 10
PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yrvz6s
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yrvz6s/by_merchant/CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($498.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - Maelstrom 120T 83.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($134.17 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: G.Skill - Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($229.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($175.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Mini Video Card ($1099.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Inwin - 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($169.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($116.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Total: $2551.17
Prices may include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-03 21:33 AEST+1000Now don't forget you can also get the parts on 20% discount via Futu Online or PC Byte.
That said some people may not be assed building and want something pre-built.
And personally I would want an optical drive that can read blu-ray and DVD drives for that moment when it is just in case
DVDs sure, grab a $20 USB external one. Blu ray is pointless on your PC "just in case". I have never seen software come on a Blu ray. All industry software we get at work comes on multiple dual layer DVDs (8gb each) as they would never presume anyone to have a Blu ray in a work machine.
Ah ok fair enough I always just assumed the newer titles with gargantuan install files would come on bluray now guess not or it is probably all just a code to download the rest online. I haven't bought a physical game since call of duty modern warfare 2 so I wouldn't know.
I always just assumed the newer titles with gargantuan install files would come on bluray now guess not or it is probably all just a code to download the rest online.
They normally just have an empty box with a small piece of high quality paper with a download code on them that you redeem on your PC and then download the game. Call of Duty Black Ops 3 is a recent exception though and it comes with 6 dual layer DVDs that contain the whole game as a preload (my game folder for that game is 95.1 GB without owning any of the DLC).
I can confirm, this runs crysis!
What case is it?
The ad shows 2 different cases
It lists one in the description
Say what you want about building your own, but if you're not tech savvy or a parent wanting to get one for your child then these are the way to go.
If you are a parent looking to buy this rig for a child, I may be in the my 30's but I am available for adoption
Know a guy who got a $4k right from his parents. I also got a $2k rig many many years ago when I was 16 :)
I got my dads old parts every few years when he upgraded but he wasn't a gamer so he'd buy me a low end-mid range GPU to go with it. Had some very strange GPUs over the years haha
@Agret: Prior to that rig my mates would always give me GPUs when they upgraded. The amount of ancient GeForces' I have lying around…
Don't know how much my machine was when I was a teenager but it had a Radeon HD 4850 I think or something very low to mid range in that era and some 3 digit cpu I forget the name I think it was core 2 duo or something but it ran crysis and call off duty modern warfare so I was happy.
I think I only had like 40 to 80 gb only also haha lol or something stupid and probably 4gb of ram which was major for those days.
had a legendary screwless case the chenbro.. Really appreciate it now it was all plastic also but very sturdy so no sharp metallic cuts and no screws needed
And then I went on a spiritual journey for a few years haha lol and drifted off into lala land.. Wish I had bought some bitcoin when I first heard about it man.. Man Man Man
$2600 makes a great value heater for winter…?
(in all seriousness, I'm using my 1080Ti to mine and warm my living room)
+1 for mining in winter. But for gaming / non-mining use, this system should be okay in terms of noise and heat.
Take the computer outside on a frosty morning for some mining. Really does help with the cooling.
But then you'd have to run the heater inside which means you lose money :( why put that heat to waste?
@Agret: I'm even reconsidering moving my eGPU box to improve heat distribution (or at least angling the exhaust towards the room rather than a wall)!
This is also why I wouldn't mind building such a beast.. With the temps I get around here I should be fine for cooling all year long except maybe in summer.
Pretty sweet beast and good price!
Could definitely be much better it's very close to build it yourself costs.
Question for all the avid and learned IT enthusiasts here.
What is the price gap if one was to attempt at building one of these themselves with decently branded parts?Thanks in advance for the help.
You could potentially save hundreds of dollars and maybe even more and get the price to below $2000 if you do the deal hunting and gumtree haggling game.
Shipping prices would only be your downfall but if you are smart you could try bulk order some parts from the same place if it works out cheaper.
But you could definitely save a few hundred easily getting best brand parts either on sale or second hand hardly used from gumtree.
Heck I would even get heavily used parts for massive discounts as long as it wasn't broken or damaged and not the power supply everything else imho is fair game even the gpu.
Thank you for that response. You mentioned bulk orders from some places. Given I am new to the scene, can you recommend any places such as these?
Is this really that good of a deal?
PC Byte had this deal back in Feb:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/360436This deal is $1000 extra for an Intel CPU, another 8 gigs of RAM and a SSD?
This is not a deal in my eyes.
What you posted was though wow $1600 GTX 1080ti machine is very nice.
This deal or this for $2400.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alienware-Aurora-R7-Gaming-PC-De…For a friend who wants a pre-built system.
This one has the 1080 ti graphics whereas the Dell is only 1080. Important difference if he wants to play in 4K.
Jesus thats some fast hardware !!