Refund from State Revenue for Parking Fine

Kuhaku on 22/05/2018 - 23:59
Last edited 23/05/2018 - 09:32 by 1 other user

Long post ahead….
Hey guys so basically before I start I know there was a long time to deal with this but here it goes.

Went to USYD cause a friend was having a panic attack of sort (stress induced arrhythmia which leads to heart panics and imoblity as well as breathing difficulties). This friend had a history of this from about a month back so she could feel the onset of the reaction, she calls me and I rush with another friend to the scene and park in the closest parking in order to calm her down. We get there and after a difficult hour or so she calms down with the help of security. Mind you her not calming down is likely to cause heart failure. So come back to my car and find a parking ticket as I didn't get a metered ticket cause it was the last hing on my mind. This was on campus. Security take a incident report on scene. After receiving I contact rms and they ask for proof.

For approx 3 months I called 3 times and went in person twice and all times the manager was unavailable and I was told I would get a call back (never did). After the fine went to an enforcement order I contacted state revenue and told them security were being uncooperative and they said to send a email as proof. Before this I tried to contest the fine with evidence of the persons hospital record before and after the incident showing the exact same problems which included arrhythmia.

Apparently it wasn't enough evidence for the rms as I needed a hospital record from the exact date. Moving forward I sent emails and after about 6 emails to which the security manager finally responded she simply said there is no record of the incident. The enforcement order has turned to a suspension notice and from 110 to 220 or something. And I really don't feel to be paying it as I was there for a medical reason and the proof I do have isn't enough about the existing condition of my friend. I was thinking of getting a statement from the security who took the incident report but I'll have to pay the fine tonight as the suspension starts off as of tomorrow.

My question is, can I get a refund after I get a statement, at this point I'm fed up with state revenue who just want money and USYD who are uncooperative and then they misplace evidential information.

Thanks for any info.

Poll Options

  • 40
    Can't do anything pay the fine
  • 2
    Don't pay fine and get suspended
  • 2
    Pay the fine request a refund
Automotive

Comments

  • bobbified on 23/05/2018 - 00:13
    +6

    Complete the back of the fine to nominate a court hearing. That is your last option so if you feel strongly enough about it, go and plead your case.

    • apple2016 on 23/05/2018 - 00:19

      Agree with this. Setup a court date.

  • tsunamisurfer on 23/05/2018 - 00:15
    +3

    Can we please add another poll option for 'Find more stable friends'?

    • c0balt on 23/05/2018 - 10:28
      -3

      I'd ask the friend for help in paying the fine, but it sounds just thinking about asking them may likely give them another attack.

      Walking on eggshells around mentally ill people is not something that's healthy for people to be around. That's what paid professionals are for.

  • airal3rt on 23/05/2018 - 00:26
    +2

    And I really don't feel to be paying it as I was there for a medical reason and the proof I do have isn't enough about the existing condition of my friend.

    You might think it to be cold-hearted, but the reality is there was two possible scenarios here.

    Scenario 1) It was a medical emergency, therefore you call an ambulance.

    Scenario 2) It wasn't a medical emergency as you didn't call an ambulance, therefore you had time to buy your parking ticket.

    If you contest it in court, you'd have your friend there with you and a truckload of documentation/corroborating "evidence", anything half-baked like the explanation here will have the magistrate laugh you out of the courthouse.

    • Kuhaku on 23/05/2018 - 00:32

      I get what u say in terms of medical emergency, but what the person needed was someone to calm her down, she has had 4 paramedic calls prior to the incident and 2 after or so where she lost consciousness, except for the first 2 times, every other time she just walked out in 30min. So it'd a waste of the emergency department.

    • Kuhaku on 23/05/2018 - 00:35

      Also she would take ondanestron to not choke on possible regurgitation. She just needed to be put on her side til her breath returns to a normal rate.

      • Cheeper on 23/05/2018 - 03:15
        +2

        If your friend's illness is as bad as you say it sounds like she should not be living alone.
        She needs to be in full time care. Currently she seems to be a full time repeat customer of emergency services?

        Pay the fine.

        • c0balt on 23/05/2018 - 10:32
          -2

          Agreed. Harsh as it sounds, a true friend would help the person better themselves rather than be a safety net that enables mentally ill behavior.

          If it's already an established pattern where there is some trigger and OP comes to the rescue, it's enabling and not helpful to their friend in the future. Short term validation is the antithesis of putting in the work and doing what's hard to make life changes for the better. A true friend would help them get the help they need, but also not be a walking mat that enables their mental illnesses.

          OP are you a young guy and the person is a young girl? There's a whole world of incredible girls out there. You don't have to be there for one who can not be there for you. Intentions of being selfless have a sad tendency to end up being a waste of time and not viewed as being selfless by others, especially if there's red flags.

          If she's calling you and not an ambulance for what is a health emergency, I suggest you look into 'victim and savior relationships' as written by different psychiatrists/psychologists. It could be incredibly unhealthy for you in the long run to maintain this relationship.

        • Kuhaku on 23/05/2018 - 10:51

          I am a guy and yes it was a girl but just a friend, she has recovered well now thankfully just at the time I think it was due to a breakup and exam stress she wasn't coping, but thanks for you reply :)

        • c0balt on 23/05/2018 - 10:56
          -1

          @Kuhaku:

          Recovered, from requiring multiple hospitalizations in the past for an underlying mental condition? What makes you certain that the last time was the last time? Have they been seeing a mental health care professional, and the doctor has given them the diagnosis that they no longer have an illness?

          Best of luck, you will need it in the future with this person. Consider the constant requests for you to be her personal ambulance service and now the $220 fine to be part of the costs of the established dynamic, there will be a lot of future costs if you continue to be a 'savior' rather than a 'friend' to this person.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/05/2018 - 09:35
      +2

      the magistrate laugh you out of the courthouse

      Not in Vic. Here in the Education State, it's the criminals laughing out of the courthouse with good behaviour bonds and CCOs.

      • c0balt on 23/05/2018 - 10:39

        Thanks, Daniel Andrews.

  • JimmyF on 23/05/2018 - 09:17

    No TL;DR??

    • Baysew on 23/05/2018 - 10:05
      +1

      OP got parking ticket while attending to ill friend at University of Sydney.
      Couldn't provide enough evidence to substantiate mitigating circumstances.
      Needs to pay fine now, to avoid suspension.
      Can they get a refund of fine later, if they provide "a statement from the security"

      • JimmyF on 23/05/2018 - 18:33
        +1

        Cool… Thanks!

        Yeah OP pay the fine, no one forced you to park there.

  • Randxyz123 on 23/05/2018 - 09:50

    Just pay the fine.

    If anything you should’ve paid it ages ago and then asked for it to be refunded.

  • mskeggs on 23/05/2018 - 09:59
    +1

    If you go to court, get stat declarations from your friends and witnesses, and you should have enough evidence. Be cautious to get the information in the declaration correct, as signing a false one carries a heavy penalty.

  • aNoPHeLeS on 23/05/2018 - 10:10

    It sux and its unjust (imo) but in the grand scheme of things, it's a small price to pay for being there for that friend. Put it down as a selfless thing you've done because you wanted to do the right thing and care for that friend. The anxiety and distraction isn't worth the money (unless you're REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrell)

Login or Join to leave a comment
Login Join