Please buy it all & be OOS by tomorrow morning. I can only hold that much longer before pulling the trigger. Off to bed!
Also avail from futu at same price.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Philips-BDM4350UC-43-LED-LCD-Gam…
$100 end-user cash back on the BDM4350UC until 30th June, 2018
https://philipsmonitorspromotion.com.au/
google input lag & chroma 444 & srgb 99% coverage
im sure you can get similar priced 40 inch 4k tvs that have that, plus they have remote control, smart features apps ect
not a chance,
you won't get brand new 40" 4k with below at $600
input lag lower than 26ms
chroma 444
srgb 99% coverage
this is a monitor for PC, why need remote & smart apps ?
@phunkydude: office set up in my bedroom can use it as a tv ect. pretty sure this is same panel philips use in their tvs?
I don't think it is better than a 4K TV with chroma 444 and low input lag.
For example I recently bought a 49" X7000D for $519 (Sony refurbished) which has a 10bit panel and HDR10. It's not a very good HDR set but I presume it has better image quality than this monitor.
You do realise this monitor is IPS?
arnt a lot of tvs IPS aswell?
depends what you use it for
And at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
Also the start of the day and the middle bit too.
picture editing, youtube movies ect not really interested gaming anymore.
photo editing on TV panel is something that i never heard of
color accuracy % srgb is the 1st thing to consider for photo/video editing
wow how many people have desks that can take a 43” monitor like for a PC ….
you would need to sit a fair way back so you don’t move your head left to right to read stuff .
Good point.
You would probably need to wall mount it
and put the desk a bit further away.
Else you are gonna be moving your head left and right alot
I have a Phillips 32" and have to move my head quite a bit. It is still awesome though, and this is tempting me…
A 43" 4k would be like 4 FHD 22" monitors in terms of size and pixel density. Plenty of people have a pair of 22" or 24" monitors. This would be slightly less wide than a dual monitor setup, so maybe not so much turning your head left and right. It'll be twice the height though maybe some ergonomic issues there, I dunno. And with dual monitors you can angle them inwards.
I'd consider this but ideally it would be good to try one first for a couple of days. Because it's a single flat panel the edges of the screen are further from your eyes (with a curved monitor or a pair of monitors angled in its not so pronounced) I think the different focus distance rather than turning your head left and right might be an issue.
Who knows, I got one of the 32" AOC monitors recently - it felt big for a couple of days, but quite comfortable now.
I'm thinking of this from a productivity perspective rather than entertainment.
I'm thinking of this from a productivity perspective rather than entertainment.
I think it works great for Premiere and Lightroom. You can arrange your workspace so the most frequently-used things are within your field of view, and the less frequently-used things just outside. You can ` less when you want to preview your video or timeline too, since the windows are so large already anyway.
Yep. I’ve got a 34” ultrawide and sometimes I feel like I’m watching the tennis side on.
If I had the cash I would’ve got a curved ultra wide which lessens the left/right movement a bit.
I have this monitor. You turn your head ALOT. It isn't efficient for business vs my old setup of 3 monitors in portrait. It's great for entertainment.
Keep in mind it's just a monitor, no upscaling, so not great for consoles.
do you have some pics?
How did you mount it or put on the desk?
how is the gaming on it?
Ouch. I just bought this on Saturday.
How do you rate it for productivity?
Not the best because it's recommended not to leave the same image on the screen for too long.
Apart from that i'd say excellent if you have the desk space.
Almost all monitors and TVs say that in the manual, just to cover the manufacturer's arse.
Very few LCD panels are subject to image retention, and the ones that are generally only hold the image temporarily (not like plasma and OLED that is permanent).
@BradH13: Have a look through this thread: https://hardforum.com/threads/philips-bdm4350uc-43-inch-4k-i…. In short, this particular monitor has image retention issues, not all of which show up immediately, and which are specifically excluded from the warranty. There appear to be quality control issues with this unit as well.
It seems okay if you want to play a few games or watch movies on the big screen, but for productivity where you have toolbars and taskbars that may stay on screen for a while, this is probably not a great choice, even at this price.
It also has some juddering, although Philips say most people won't notice (see https://pcmonitors.info/philips/philips-bdm4350uc-43-inch-4k…). At least it doesn't use PWM, so is less likely to give you headaches.
I have been using the previous 40' version of this at work for the last 3 years and it's amazing. It's really hard to go back to smaller screens. I bought this one for the days I work from home. I don't use it for gaming. Mainly productivity (Outlook, Office, Word) and dev Visual Studio, VS Code, Sublime etc.
I was concerned with image burn in and called Philips tech support before purchasing. I received a call back from the tech guy and he said it was all due to the warning message this monitor displays which made people go looking for the slight image retention. He said Philips have now removed this message in the newer 43" version. He said it was impossible for IPS screens to have permanent burn-ins and was mostly people who don't know the topic spewing this stuff on forums.
I've been using this for a week and haven't noticed any image retention. See this page a comparison of OLED and IPS screens (OLEDS have retention issues) https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-bu… and this thread https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1206279
Quick note, my Lenovo P50 connected over HDMI caused I had issues with the HDMI cable and my Windows PC but it all went away when I switche
what does your last comment mean?
Do you have a pic of your 40" monitor and is in on desk or wall mounted?
Can you test gaming?
Thanks for this additional information. Are you aware, based on your contact with Philips, whether they now cover image retention (should it happen) under their warranty terms?
Here's a pic of my desktop next to a 15" MacBook for comparison. https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/50698/59154/philips43b…
Sorry didn't finish my last comment.
I first used the HDMI port to plug the Lenovo but the text was all blurry. I was fretting over having to return the monitor but decided to first try my DisplayPort cable and that fixed all the issues for Windows 10.
Quick note that if you have a MacBook this might not be the monitor for you. Apparently this monitor uses BGR which is not fully supported by MacBooks so the text is slightly blurry (if you notice it). The fix for MacOS is to rotate the monitor 180 degrees. So you need to factor in buying a VESA mount if you want to use this with a Mac and also the monitor being turned upside down.
BTW Here is pic of the older 40" model that I use at work https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/50698/59155/work.jpg
@ShootingStar: The image retention is not a permanent issue. Even if you left your monitor on for a few hours and you can see some retention you just need to turn off the monitor and let it cool down and all of the image retention will go away. The tech guy said it was a non-issue.
@merill: Thanks. In the manual here, page 2 has the following information:
Important information for Burn-in/Ghost image
* Always activate a moving screen saver program when you leave your Display >unattended. Always activate a periodic screen refresh application if your Display
will display unchanging static content. Uninterrupted display of still or static
images over an extended period may cause “burn in”, also known as “after-imaging” >or “ghost imaging”, on your screen.
* “Burn-in”, “after-imaging”, or “ghost imaging” is a well-known phenomenon in LCD >panel technology. In most cases, the “burned in” or “after-imaging” or “ghost >imaging” will disappear gradually over a period of time after the power has been >switched off.
This tends to support what the tech guy said to you. However, it is followed by the following:
Warning
Failure to activate a screen saver, or a periodic screen refresh application may >result in severe “burn-in” or “after-image” or “ghost image” symptoms that will not >disappear and cannot be repaired. The damage mentioned above is not covered under >your warranty.
According to the [H]ardforum thread I linked to above, this is the result of a browser being on for 15 minutes. I suspect it was temporary, yet likely to be very annoying.
@merill:
Why does turning it upside down fix this?
So you have this same model 43" at home
and 40 inch at work.
Do you need to move your head left to right a lot?
This is an issue that cause sore neck / stiff neck.
On your desk and at work in the pic does not look too bad.
But are you sitting about 1m to 70cm away from the monitor?
@pinkybrain: It flips from BGR to RGB. Appears to be a MacOS limitation. See https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/171141/bgr-rgb-pix…
I switched the rotation to 180 and it definitely made the text sharper. Except everything was now upside down. So I either need to be a bat or rotate the monitor. Apparently you can boot camp into Windows on a MacBook and it has no issues with BGR.
I only need to strain my head if I’m looking at the small icons in the corner (top left for Mac and bottom right for windows). Since it’s not very frequent it hasn’t bothered me much.
I sit exactly an arms length from the monitor.
@merill:
So you have the exact same 43" model at home?
Why did you get such a big monitor?
What is the use case for it?
Can you do some gaming test?
@pinkybrain: Yes the exact same one. Mainly for coding/dev work and productivity (MS Office). Using one monitor is simpler and more elegant than having two and wires running everywhere.
Sorry I don’t game and might not be the best judge.
how is the gaming on it?
$717-100 = $616 ?
+1
-$1 for posting to Philips for the cashback.
I have 2 of these monitors and I think its a value for money. Not only the quality is good and its an affordable large 4k monitor. Anyone has bad eyes like me should really get one.
I could not get used to a single screen especially after having 4 screen setup. Multi-taking was just so much harder on 1 screen for me.
I just use it when working on large format designs for signage/stickers.
can you get the $100 cashback from other sellers or just certain ones?
how much better is this than say a decent 4k tv?