Samsung Inverter Reverse Cycle Air Conditioner $658

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  soulspawn on 06/01/2011 - 02:02

  sadly, this model does not qualify for the cashback promotion.

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  applebyte on 06/01/2011 - 02:03

  +2

  Gerry is that you trying to figure out this internet craze that is Ozbargain?

  In all seriousness though, not much of a bargain when others are similarly priced and are probably negotiable without giving you attitude that you'll find in HN!

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  POWERevolution on 06/01/2011 - 02:25

  How easy for installation on these type of unit? Can you DIY?
  Is this the one that you hook to the external unit?

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    pliukit on 06/01/2011 - 02:50

    +2

    As far as I know, installation in Perth is a standard $500 - $550 for a back to back installation by a licensed installer. Previously they have 'installation included' deals from all major retailers [basically they deducted off $500 install fee from the price or jack it up and advertised as free installation]which might pop up again if you can wait. Anyhow, with the recent rant from major retailers about consumer buying online, HN rarely gives value for money for big ticket items.

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      soulspawn on 06/01/2011 - 02:54

      yeah, those installation included deals were just priced-adjusted units.
      I am sure that if HN can offer this price, the other shops should be able to price match.

      A pity the bigpond shop doesnt do pick up (well, at least not that i could find on the website)

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    fish on 06/01/2011 - 08:00

    Tried DIY once for a $300 bought from Kmart 4 years ago, still working well. As long as you don't touch the electricity part i.e. 1-1.5 HP units, just plug it in, the easiest way is back to back installation, which don't need any extra copper pipe but make sure your house is strong enough. I actually bought the matched copper pipe to extend it under the house.
    The hardest part was found the copper pipe and flush/vacuum the pipe(which I did none in the end). Fair amount of video you can find in Youtube, and you can find the pipe from ebay now.

    Legally you need a electrician to install it…… but what the Hell….

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      wfdTamar on 06/01/2011 - 09:17

      +1

      That will very likely fail before it would have normally because you didn't vacuum the pipes. The air in the pipes has water in it which apparently is the worst thing for AC's. Installation is one of those very overpriced things considering that it's not that hard or time consuming. A basic install should be in the region of $200-300, not the $600-700 it is.

      It's also illegal to DIY - the pipework or electrical part. Though if it's a plug in one I can't see the problem with that. BTW mine uses 55 watts when plugged in but turned off - just to run the remote control sensor it seems, so I plug in into one of those power point standby cutoff doo dahs that itself has a remote.

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        stumo on 06/01/2011 - 09:49

        You can buy vac pumps and manifolds off ebay. Ive done a few of them now, hardest part is getting hold of refrigerant if you need it. You often have to resort to propane (R290). The units come pre-charged though but that relies on you vaccuming properly. And doesnt help if you have a leak etc.

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        samfisher5986 on 06/01/2011 - 09:50

        $200-300? where are these crazy bargain installers?

        Last time I looked into it they were charging $500+

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        pliukit on 06/01/2011 - 12:33

        I never understand why the big retailers doesn't want to give special $200-$300 installation if buying aircond units from them, they will sell or move much more stock if they do….

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        fish on 06/01/2011 - 13:14

        Yes, I knew that, the water in the pipe that might corrode the system in years. But I just couldn't get hold of refrigerant and it was too expensive to buy a vacuum pump just for that. In that end, I followed someones suggestion to choose a very hot and dry day to do the installation and flush the pipe with the refrigerant that already inside the unit. It is still working after 4 years.

        I won't pay $500 installation for a $300 unit!
        Legally you need a electrician to install it…… but what the Hell….

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  McMerc on 06/01/2011 - 05:48

  +4

  I highly recommend you stay away from Samsung refigererated products. We have 7 of these along with 4 of the more powerful Panasonic units at our properties. Other than the Samsungs being noisier and poor performers for heating in cold to frosty conditions, I've had issues with four of them and the warranty support has been poor to average. You really do get what you pay for. I highly recommend you invest in another brand. In my case that would've been Choice-recommended Panasonics for another $120 a pop and I regret cheaping out and now I'm stuck with these duds.

  Also wait a month and you'll see the prices drop as retailers including HN start clearing stock. More manufacturers will also start offering cashbacks. Be ruthless with your bargaining as they haven't shifted much stock this year due to a cooler than usual summer.

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    UnicornAir on 06/01/2011 - 07:24

    +1

    True for older models but Samsung has really come strong in the market with their new range of products call SAMSUNG MAX which is what this model falls under. We have installed few of these and am yet to receive any complaints. The product became available in October 2010.

    The older models yes were a bit notorious with noise and things. The price is really good though.

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      lazed on 06/01/2011 - 09:42

      +1

      I dont think a few installations over the past 8-12 weeks is enough to tell if they are a worthwhile investment

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        UnicornAir on 06/01/2011 - 11:30

        Fair enough. Not saying the unit is best of the best but it will do. Also comes with 5 years warranty so can't go wrong at this price. Also it's not always the unit or the brand which is bad but the way you maintain it too. Lots of customers complain about their units not working, heating up etc but when you ask when was the last servicing they got done..NEVER!!.

        You expect a unit to last even 5 years without any servicing for 5 years. I don't think so..

        You have to get the unit serviced as recommended for it to perform well and not break down. Also prolongs the life of the unit too.

        Just a thought.

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      McMerc on 06/01/2011 - 19:14

      Dunno about Max serious and how these are a better product than my 2-3 year old Samsungs.

      My faults have nothing to do with servicing, which I regularly get done. Of the four claims, two needed computers replacements, one is still outstanding will claim the coming winter once I can demonstrate that the unit while heating, starts pumping cold air in the middle of the night, and when you wake up in the morning, the room is a freezing 12 degrees.

      As far as the noise is concerned, I've reluctantly have to come to terms with this.

      I'm sooooooo impressed with the Panasonics we have, and the Fujitsu isn't too bad either. My advice is to go with renowned names who have a good track record when it comes to making quality A/Cs.

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        stumo on 09/01/2011 - 12:50

        They periodically do this reverse-reverse cycle thing when its really cold outside, to de-ice the outside unit. The ones I have (non samsung) stop blowing air through the indoor unit when it is doing this cycle, takes about 10 minutes. All it does is run the normal cooling cycle (with indoor fan off) just to heat up the outdoor unit, which causes the ice to instantly melt away.

        So it sounds like yours is faulty and getting stuck in an iced up state. When it happens next, you should go out and take a photo of the outdoor units fins, they will probably be covered in ice if its faulty.

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  Sharp on 06/01/2011 - 08:16

  Do not get a Samsung aircon even if it's free. Lesson learnt.

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    Cheeper on 06/01/2011 - 15:56

    +1.. Samsung A/C are total junk. (btw so are their vacuum cleaners).
    We got small LG units (1hp r/c) installed in another place and they beat the Samsung all round.

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  musicinbed69 on 07/01/2011 - 09:11

  -1

  I had this air conditioner installed recently.

  It's extremely energy efficient and very quiet. There is absolutely no 'buzz' sound to it, just an air sound which increases depending on the fan setting. There is a silent fan setting too. It seems to only use about 600w usually when cooling, 50w when it switches to fan mode.
  I really don't know what you people are all going on about, this air con is pretty damn sweet. I cannot fault it.

  The remote control is very good as well, you can point it absolutely any where and it'll still be picked up by the air conditioner.
  I've only had it for about 2 months though. But I don't see any sign of it dying any time soon.
  I got it with installation included for $1298 from clive peters. (and by "I", I mean my awesome mum).

  It's a good air-conditioner, I wasn't expecting it either.