Which Vacuum cleaner should I get?

cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 09:58
Last edited 12/03/2018 - 22:06 by 1 other user

Hi guys, I have just recently replaced the carpet of my house. I need a suggestion of which vacuum cleaner to get as our trusty Hoover Bagless Smart with Turbohead attachment is not compatible with the new carpet.. the new carpet is too thick that the Turbohead would get stuck, so we're temporarily switching back to the default head while looking for the next vacuum.

Our apartment unit is carpeted aside from the bathrooms, kitchen, laundry room and balcony, so pretty much all living space. The new carpet is about 10 mm thick cut pile, made from Eco Triexta (corn fiber I believe).

We went to Godfrey's a couple months ago and they suggested something rather expensive, region of $600. They also did the whole sale spiel about it being better than Dyson etc etc.

I am open to any suggestions, so I'd appreciate your input!

Update:
Thanks all for the input, Miele Complete C3 Cat and Dog seems to be getting a resounding recommendation from the community. Reading from its website though, its Turbo head doesn't seem to work as well on long cut pile carpet. I'm heading to Bing Lee sometimes this week with leftover of my carpet to test!

Update 2:
I went to Bing Lee today, tested the Miele C3 Cat and Dog on leftover carpet, the Turbo head was stuck and wouldn't move! We also did a test drive on a high-end Electrolux unit to no avail which worked on the carpet, but visibly didn't clean the dirt residue very well.

We then went to Godfreys to get recommendation and explanation as to why the Miele Turbo head didn't work - because it does not have height adjustment so it wouldn't work on high carpets. After 2 hours of demonstration and testing several units in store, we settled on the Ferrari of vacuum…. the gold Sauber unit priced at RRP $2,299 which cleans fabulously well.

TL;DR OP wanted to get new vacuum cleaner for thick carpet, OzB recommended Miele C3 with turbohead, OP tested and didn't work with carpet, OP bought pricey Sauber vacuum instead, OP is now broke.

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Comments

  • BensonP on 11/03/2018 - 10:13
    +13

    Miele bagged vacuum. End of conversation.

    I have one and my carpets have never been cleaner.

    Edit: C3 Cat and Dog is a beast of a machine.

    • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 10:49

      Cheapest store that has this model is Betta it seems, do you reckon it would be good for the thick carpets?

      • kipps on 11/03/2018 - 11:22
        +1

        Miele C3 Cat and Dog is a fantastic vac. Got one following a resounding recommendation here on OzBargain. Yes, it will be fine.

      • Islund on 11/03/2018 - 11:23
        +2

        Appliances online or appliances central? DJ will match prices as well - not Myer though; standard response “it is below our cost”

        • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 11:46
          +1

          Appliances Online is selling it for more + shipping, whereas Betta has it for $400 and free shipping to my area, still doesn't beat the deal on the front page from 4 days ago

    • NancyCat on 11/03/2018 - 13:31
      +2

      Yes, definitely Miele Cat & Dog. It's so good we bought another one for upstairs (too lazy to carry it up & down the stairs all the time LOL)…and that was 5-6 years ago, both machines are still going strong. We use both vacuums almost daily, thanks to my 3 messy kids, a cat & a dog.

      • Islund on 11/03/2018 - 13:47

        The only downside is that my cat bolts at the sight it

    • Goldcoater on 12/03/2018 - 05:50

      I have Meile bagged and it's been fabulous. The bags are easy to buy from Meile and elsewhere not that you need to buy them often, I think they are about $25. My Meile has been shelved the last 12 months because I bought a Dyson hand stick, great from my sized unit. It's easy because it's so accessible, no need the pull out of cupboard, pull out cords, plug in. You just grab it off the dock and press a button.

  • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 10:16
    +1

    Dyson animal canister or upright.

    • JimmyF on 11/03/2018 - 10:32

      upright only for the power head, the dyson canisters are crud with the air powered head :/

      • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 10:49

        It depends on what op wants. A power or turbo head does more then spin and suck. The friction from the filaments shreds microscopic pieces of the carpet. The longer the carpet threads, the more potential damage. We use canister and handheld on rugs and carpet. The carpet is ok, while the rugs may get stuck at times.

        • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 10:53

          You might be right, we noticed a fair downturn of (previous) carpet quality since we switched to Hoover with turbo head, which prompted us to replace the carpet entirely after 10 years of wear and tear. It could be regular wear and tear or even aggravated by the turbo head, I guess we'll never know. I'm assuming that power heads would delicately remove dirt from the carpet without causing too much damage to the carpet.

          P.S. Turbo head is different from power head, whereas turbo head is not powered separately as power head is.

  • altomic on 11/03/2018 - 10:29
    +2

    Kmart 2000watt vacumm. This is also a beast. Has way more suction than my nilfisk and both dysons.

    Or just buy an after market non- powered head for your current vacuum.

    • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 10:37
      +1

      Has way more suction than my nilfisk and both dysons.

      What is the cfm or aw of this beast?

      • altomic on 11/03/2018 - 10:55
        +1

        no idea.

        I 've run them against each other. the kmart unit picks up dirt left by the others.

    • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 10:48

      I don't think regular heads would cut it for the thickness of my carpet. Personally I am leaning towards power heads as my current standard one doesn't seem to clean all that much apart from picking up surface dirt.

      Unless I am wrong in my understanding of power heads?

    • D C on 11/03/2018 - 10:52
      +1

      I picked up one of those $50 vacuums off the side of the road (because I wanted the motor to make an exhaust for machinery) not long ago.

      Vacuum cleaner said 2000W. Measured 500W. Motor said 1800W (and that it had aluminium wiring).

      The motor itself was about the size of your fist, absolutely tiny compared to earlier models.

      Spat sparks everywhere because the brushes were crap (hence why it was junked). Did have electronic speed control though which was nice.

      Junk, just utter junk the lot of them.

      • altomic on 11/03/2018 - 11:00
        +1

        I've disassembled mine (doesn't have the speed control) but motor is the same size as the nilfisk actionplus (also 2000W). and used copper wiring. though I bought mine 5 years ago.

        • D C on 11/03/2018 - 12:07

          Stick a power meter on it, it'll be nowhere near 2000W.

    • gimli on 11/03/2018 - 14:01

      Do you mean this one: http://www.kmart.com.au/product/2000w-bagless-vacuum/1181324

      I got it 12 months ago. Used it on carpet. Was great
      Also its extremely light so easy to manouvre.
      The power cord is relatively short but easy to fix with an extension cable.

      • altomic on 11/03/2018 - 14:10

        mine is about 4 or 5 years old. so an earlier version.

  • D C on 11/03/2018 - 10:30
    +4

    One that sucks, of course.

    (Obvious post is obvious.)

    • Kangal on 11/03/2018 - 10:40
      +2

      This comment blows!!

  • mbck on 11/03/2018 - 10:31
    +2

    Each bag and bagless has it's own pros and cons.

    Miele is probably the better bagged vacuums. Slightly cheaper than the Dyson. However you do have to include the bags you'll have to buy throughout the life of the vacuum cleaner. In saying that,bags are easier and cleaner to remove as opposed to bagless.

    Dyson is more expensive but it will save you money down the track as it doesn't have any filter or bags to replace. Getting rid of the dust is not as clean as bags; I suggest doing this outside away from your doors/Windows.

    • Kangal on 11/03/2018 - 10:43
      +1

      Can't you get those Miele bags from a no-name Chinese seller… which would save you a lot of money?

      I know my mum used to get the bags, and carefully cut the rear to empty them into the big.
      Then she used to duct-tape the bottom and reuse them for a dozen times. Until it got too worn out and used a new bag and repeated the cycle —extending their lifetime.

      • BensonP on 11/03/2018 - 10:52
        +4

        The genuine bags are like $4 each and they last me 3 months or so.

        Your mum is an extreme tightarse. It brings a tear to my eye!

      • Elwes on 11/03/2018 - 10:54
        +4

        You can get brand name bags cheaply on eBay. Cheaper in bulk.

        They're worth the extra price if you want the air to come out filtered.

      • D C on 11/03/2018 - 10:55
        +1

        Older models used to have a slide-on clip so you could re-use the bag, single-use bags sound a bit dodgy (won't somebody think of the shareholders?).

    • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 10:55

      Ozbargainers seem to prefer Miele or Dyson.. no love for other brands?

      • mbck on 11/03/2018 - 11:19
        +1

        The genuine miele bags is better than the 'normal' vacuum cleaner bags as its built quality is much much better. When you take it out, there is no leakage and that's why it's 'healthier' than bag less.

        I personally choose quality than quantity. I've tried kmart, etc but there will be some plastic that gets broken over a few months. Plus I needed to change the filter and the bag so that increased my costs. Mind you I clean my house every week.

        So for me or someone who cleans regularly (too regularly maybe), then bag less made sense for me.

        If you have asthma though, it might be a better option to get bagged. It's cleaner to replace as opposed to bag less. Emptying a days on will have a bit of dust blow back. (do it outdoors)

        • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 11:44

          Good point about the bagged option, I AM allergic to dust, cleaning the tubs to save costs on bags and would require to take allergy pills afterwards!

  • Elwes on 11/03/2018 - 10:55
    +3

    The world's most famous vacuum cleaner repair man recommends Miele bagged vacuums.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/7gmsoe/iama_reddits_o…
    He thinks Dyson are over-rated and all bagless vacuums are inefficient.

    • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 11:08
      +1

      The world's most famous vacuum cleaner repair man

      never heard of him. unlike dyson.

    • mbck on 11/03/2018 - 11:31
      +1

      The guy says professionals uses bags, but most cleaners I've seen in a commercial setting uses bag less.

      1) Perform better (Actual quality of cleaning).
      I think a few percentage in performance difference won't matter too much.

      2) Be in service for much longer.
      Quite subjective. Lots of other people says otherwise.

      3) Cost less to repair and maintain (Often including consumables).
      Will depend on how popular the vacuum cleaner is. The more popular it is, the more parts services will have. Keep in mind, because you have 'miele' that would have a premium pricing.

      4) Filter your air better.
      Depends on how filled your bag and bag less vacuum cleaner is. If you don't change it often, or cleaned frequently, then these will impact air filtration.

      I think other factors are more important than the above. Eg, cost of bags, your frequency of cleaning, any allergic reactions/asthma, weight (especially if you live in a town house).

    • cmilano8 on 11/03/2018 - 11:45

      Good read, thanks! I am leaning towards German craftsmanship +1

      • D C on 11/03/2018 - 14:13

        Aldi?

        Good choice, those $99 shop vacs are worth waiting for.

        • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 14:30

          we've two shop vac. they're great for screws, nuts, bots, gyprock, steel shavings, wood shavings, gravel, etc. they're semi wet/dry that we've used to suck rain water out of post holes. very handy and easy to clean. however, they're not good for carpet and rugs.

        • D C on 11/03/2018 - 14:32

          @whooah1979: Eh, works for me.

        • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 14:44

          @D C:

          Give your carpet a good vac with a shop vac. Then borrow a Dyson animal or a similar pet vacuum cleaner and give that a try.

        • D C on 11/03/2018 - 15:01

          @whooah1979: Had a Dyson (barrel). Gave it away after I got the Aldi shop vac and realised Dyson are really overrated.

          (I didn't buy the Dyson, btw.)

        • whooah1979 on 11/03/2018 - 15:19

          @D C:

          We went the other way. Getting pet hair out of the carpet and rugs was to difficult and time consuming. The animal made a meal out of it.

        • D C on 11/03/2018 - 18:33

          @whooah1979: Yeah, I don't think Aldi's shop vac will fare all that well with hairy carpet (I don't have pets). YMMV as usual.

  • Godric on 11/03/2018 - 11:57

    Dyson, lool

  • ibelynn on 11/03/2018 - 12:49
    +1

    After going thru all the cheapie brands, I bought the german brand " Sauber"..its excellent, it also has a power head, which almost lifts the carpet off the floor.
    No Plastic parts! built to last.

    They sell at Godfreys for around $1500, and they have free servicing on them.

    I bought mine off gumtree, for $500, immaculate condition, with all the extra's.
    The complaint was its " too heavy", but its no heavier than what the Electolux used to be years ago.
    The plastic builds make vac's very light in weight, but plastic chips easier too.

    I would never buy another brand now

  • Cheeper on 11/03/2018 - 15:00
    +2

    Miele. Get a turbo head with it if not included.
    You will never need to buy another vacuum cleaner again.

  • MiniMad on 11/03/2018 - 19:29

    Sebo - choice top rated, used in Buckingham palace and by commercial cleaners. Super impressive bit of kit.

  • TheOtherLeft on 12/03/2018 - 08:17

    Miele miele miele. I bought a Complete C3 a few months ago. It sucks big time…but in a good way. It's quite too.

  • min2 on 12/03/2018 - 13:03

    brand new Miele vacuum 'Complete C3 Cat and Dog'

    Pls let me know if someone in Brisbane wants to buy the Miele cat and dog. I have a brand new one to sell for $450 cash on delivery. Unopened in original packaging, 18 months from Insurance Claim.

  • min2 on 12/03/2018 - 13:04

    Text me 0402961891 o.n.o. Thanks.

  • RonaldR on 12/03/2018 - 13:35

    If you have carpet a powerhead makes all the difference, a cheaper vacuum cleaner with powerhead will do a better job than an expensive vacuum with no Powerhead. Then there is not enough suction and to much suction which locks the carpet together trapping in the dirt.

  • pebee47 on 12/03/2018 - 19:08
    +1

    Re
    mbck on 11/03/2018 - 08:31 new
    "The guy says professionals uses bags, but most cleaners I've seen in a commercial setting uses bag less."

    These Cleaners are probably employees using equipment supplied by their boss. I have 16 people and everyone uses uses the PACVAC Super Pro 700 back pack. HEPA level filtration, the unit has cloth bag and a filter cone that can be washed (through washing machine), also paper liner for the extra bit of clean air if you wish. Google PacVac for details

  • pebee47 on 12/03/2018 - 19:09

    Will also take a power head

  • pebee47 on 12/03/2018 - 19:11

    If you have too much suction you should open the vent to reduce the suck level. Helps the uptake of gunk by increasing air flow through unit

  • cmilano8 on 12/03/2018 - 22:12
    +1

    Hi guys, thanks for all the input, really appreciate you taking the time.

    I've added an update to the original post, but here is the update after testing the Miele C3 unit at Bing Lee:

    I went to Bing Lee today, tested the Miele C3 Cat and Dog on leftover carpet, the Turbo head was stuck and wouldn't move! We also did a test drive on a high-end Electrolux unit to no avail which worked on the carpet, but visibly didn't clean the dirt residue very well.

    We then went to Godfreys to get recommendation and explanation as to why the Miele Turbo head didn't work - because it does not have height adjustment so it wouldn't work on high carpets. After 2 hours of demonstration and testing several units in store, we settled on the Ferrari of vacuum…. the gold Sauber Excellence unit priced at RRP $2,299 which cleans fabulously well. We were offered a Hoover unit with Power head too, but decided the Sauber Excellence was a better long term investment. OP now is broke.

  • JackMayyam on 14/04/2018 - 02:34

    If carpet is your main concern, you might as well check details of Roomba 980. It has good suction, it is good with any floor and most of all, it is expensive!! lol. But to address your concern, it really does good with carpets, only, it's about a thousand grand.

  • Shardil7 on 19/07/2019 - 22:14

    Yeah, there have some good carpet cleaners on the Internet. If you search for a while you might get them with good reviews. I have already bought a new one for me. You can also try https://devices4home.com/best-carpet-cleaner/

  • RonaldR on 23/07/2019 - 15:30

    With carpet, the vacuum cleaner MUST HAVE POWERHEAD not turbo BUT WITH ELECTRIC MOTOR. Turbo is less efficient.
    With powerhead, it makes up if the vacuum cleaner is a bit light on suction and
    if it has too much suction it locks the pile together trapping dirt but the powerhead parts the pile.
    I used to be an ELECTROLUX MAN when they used to be the leading vacuum Cleaner company before they ended the LUX range.
    If I was buying a vacuum cleaner today would have a look at what 2nd hand NOT A NEW ONE -THEY ARE OVERPRICED.

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