Hi all.
Have been off the grid for a while, now due to work, needing to buy a new laptop, will need a decent GPU to run game engines as well as some light 3D modelling work. After a little browsing, I'm wondering those GTX1060, GTX1070 in laptops, are the same chips in desktop video cards? they used to be a 'm' version for mobile. If they are the same, does it mean the video card performance gap between laptop and desktop is further filled or?
Please shed some light on this.
thanks so much for the prompt reply, thumbs up
That being said they are almost the same in terms of performance. https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-GTX-1080-Laptop-vs-GeF…. Depends on the laptop though. Unless you care about those extra few fps, you wouldn't notice much of a difference. But a well cooled laptop would definitely allow it to do slightly better.
I would love a GTX 1070 laptop that looks like a normal laptop and not a over the top gaming laptop
EVGA SC17
15" model?
it's hard to avoid throttling with a desktop grade GPU in a 15" chassis unfortunately
Aero 15x. Was considered the best laptop of 2017. Its not cheap at $3200 and rarely goes on sale but this weekend, there is a chance of getting one on an ebay deal. I purchased an Aero 15 (1060) last week from JW Computers using 20% off, even with JW jacking price by 10%, it was still 13% off retail.
Looks absolutely like a business laptop, and one of the only ones with a high end GPU in a 15" slim build. Also has an RGB keyboard (that you can alter/disable) so you can still have a bit of bling :) I'm trying to get them used at work now for the devs.
Wow that’s nice
I think I found what I want.
If you do, uninstall almost all the bloatware from it. You may get a few BSODs updating all the drivers but once I finished getting rid of the bulk of the gigabyte apps, I haven't had an issue since. Have been running VR off it using a Windows Mixed Reality headset for the past week :)
There are probably better summaries out there but in short:
Pascal (10xx) have very similar performance between laptop implementations and desktop cards but with minor variations such as slightly reduced clock speed for thermals/power management (hence there's no "m" models anymore). Performance in practice is very similar according to the internet (plenty of articles/Youtube videos cover this).
But then they came out with "Max-Q" where the cards have similar names (eg 1060 Max-Q design) but bring back memories of the old "m" models whereby they have significantly less performance. They are designed to optimise efficiency (power/heat/noise vs. size vs. performance) and may share a lot with the original desktop/laptop GPUs in pure hardware specs, but in practice they will have much reduced performance almost comparable to a card one rung below. Benefit of these is they can get into much slimmer laptops than traditional gaming laptops however they cost more too.. there are also some really unique ways to keep them cool (eg opening screen lifts base off table to allow heat out, trackpad moved to top of laptop keyboard, etc).
Watch out for some companies which may not make it clear if you are buying a Max-Q laptop. e.g. Dell includes Max-Q GPUs in some of their traditional gaming laptops (eg Alienware 15R3) but it's not immediately obvious from the front page of the Dell site.
TL;DR
1060/70/80 in a laptop is close enough to desktop
Anything with "Max-Q" on it however is a bit closer to the next card down
Max-Q is good if you want slim laptop rather than traditional thick gaming laptop; but costs more
Yeah it's pretty close, with adequate cooling there's next to no differences. But cooling capabilities will pretty much always be a problem compared to having it in a desktop, which means thermal throttling in a laptop (so pretty much never the same, but closer).
Also, keep in mind that there is still a max-q variant (which is probably in a lot of 1060, 70 and 80) which is somewhat close to what an 'm' version would be, with significantly lower TDP and clocks. eg a 1080 max Q is so under clocked that it's basically a desktop 1070.
Go here and pick show all gpus if u want an idea of how big the gap is between the 3 variants. Of course its going to vary somewhat by model
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graph…
They have the same chip but it varies from brand to brand and the type of environment the chip is in. Although they are labeled the same they are underclocked, have slower ram speed and core speed. This is done to keep the temperature to a minimum and so that it does not thermal throttle when you are working.