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SONOFF S20 Wi-Fi Wireless Remote Control Socket Smart Timer Support Alexa - US $9.95 (~AU $13.05) Delivered @ Banggood

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SONOFF S20 Wi-Fi Wireless Remote Control Socket Smart Timer Support Alexa - US $9.95 (~AU $13.05) Delivered @ BanggoodAffiliate
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These are smart power sockets which you can link direct to Google Home or Amazon Alexa without needing extra bridges/hubs/hardware like the Xiaomi range.

Some notes I gathered from previous deals:
* These are rated up to 2000W (instead of Aus standard 2400W), so high power appliances like heaters/AC will not work with these.
* Native Google Home, Alexa and IFTTT integration and can be flashed to support MQTT
* These are technically Chinese sockets which are upside down compared to ours - keep in mind when deciding where to use it
* They have not been tested for Australian safety specs. That said, teardowns and user reports state decent build quality.

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  • Rockgod70 on 12/02/2018 - 21:22

    I ordered one of these last time around and found they are a bit fiddly to setup for my Google Home at first, but once they are connected they are awesome. I have mine powering my bedside lamp in the bedroom. Google turns it on for me before I even get there.

    • qtntom on 13/02/2018 - 07:08

      Do u ask Google to do so or does it know ur position? I suppose gps not that accurate yet

      • Rockgod70 on 13/02/2018 - 07:54

        No i ask it to do it

      • Tacooo on 13/02/2018 - 09:23

        I suppose gps not that accurate yet

        GPS is accurate down to a metre. What drugs are you on?

        • systmworks on 13/02/2018 - 10:25
          +3

          While inside a house ?

        • Cheap as chips on 17/02/2018 - 22:39

          GPS is accurate to 20mm if your using survey grade, not going to work inside a house though.

      • 01011010 on 13/02/2018 - 12:17

        you setup the device in an app then tell google home the name of the device you setup in the app.

        there's no gps.

  • salem on 12/02/2018 - 21:27

    Got a few of these. Work great with Alexa. No hiccups.

  • hopper on 12/02/2018 - 21:42

    Still waiting for my previous order 28th Jan 😔

    • salem on 12/02/2018 - 22:30

      If you add it to your cart you can see it'll say "shipping time 7-25 business days". It's always at the long end of that for me. But I can't remember having to do an "item not received" from banggood, unlike some of the others. I wouldn't expect it until a calendar month or so from ordering.

    • mskeggs on 13/02/2018 - 06:40
      +1

      I got mine from then yesterday.
      Like Rockgod70 says, a little fiddly to set up, but otherwise very good.
      I have them controlling the electric blankets upstairs, so I can warm the bed 10mins before I get in.

      I have another on a little server I run headless that locks up every couple of months and needs the power cycled.

  • kirt on 12/02/2018 - 21:55
    +1

    These are great for fans and lamps, and the physical button is handy too.

  • Dauphin3 on 12/02/2018 - 21:57

    Are these small enough so that you can use two on a double GPO? Or at least be able to plug something else beside it on a double GPO?

    • ozmoto on 12/02/2018 - 22:07
      +2

      No, can't fit two next to each other - or one plus a 'normal' plug on a standard double GPO - plus they plug in upside down :)

  • freewhere on 12/02/2018 - 22:08
    +3

    Just a caution, Bangood sell you stuff as if it's low-stock then put you on backorder for weeks. I'm in that phase and the product page still says 'Only 1 unit' so they can trap more people. See: https://www.banggood.com/ThorFire-VG15S-Upgrade-XM-L2-1070LM…

    • harrysab on 13/02/2018 - 10:41

      Happened to me as well.

  • asa79 on 12/02/2018 - 22:28

    Has this got a gap to stop it touching the power button?

    • MorriJ on 12/02/2018 - 22:54

      Reverse is flat and sits flush. There is no mount or gap on the product. If you push it into the wall, switches off powerpoint.

      Best used on something like a powerboard rather than directly on wall.

      • asa79 on 12/02/2018 - 22:55

        I have the same issue with the Mi Zigbee plug, its so annoying, I ended up using adapters, but they stick out

  • starbearer on 12/02/2018 - 22:43

    What if I don't have Google home/Amazon Echo? Any other way to remotely connect to this and control it (like an app or Web interface)?

    • SteveAndBelle on 12/02/2018 - 22:51
      +2

      IFTTT?

    • MorriJ on 12/02/2018 - 22:51
      +4

      Yep there's an app for it.

      IOS/Android

    • gascar on 12/02/2018 - 22:54

      The default free app to manage the power adapter is called eWeLink. You will need to register an account with your email so your device can be linked to it.

      Also, the power adapter will need to connect to a wifi network with internet. You should be able to manage your power adapter anywhere as you will be communicating to the device via your registered account.

      Finally, account getting hacked is possible cough cough

  • gascar on 12/02/2018 - 22:43
    +1

    I bought 2 of these in dec. One of them had a faulty wifi and couldn't be picked up by the app.

    The other one works fine without any issues. Setting up with google home was easy. Generally it would cost $20-30 back to China via austpost so I just wrote it off and pay my lazy/ce tax.

  • crazyhor77 on 12/02/2018 - 22:57

    Just wondering if these arent rated for safety in australia and it causes a fire, is there a chance your insurance wont pay out?

    • MrFrugalSpend on 13/02/2018 - 04:50

      I would say there is a very good chance of this. I've heard of cases of unapproved double adaptors causing fires and no payout (Don't know how true but a colleague of mine at work said an insurance assessor told him).

      Could in fact turn out to be the most expensive outlets ever!

      (And quite likely if only rated to 2000W but an AU appliance can draw more than this).

      Don't do it

      • Maverick-au on 13/02/2018 - 06:28
        +6

        I would say there is a very good chance of this. I've heard of cases of unapproved double adaptors causing fires and no payout (Don't know how true but a colleague of mine at work said an insurance assessor told him).

        Utter rubbish. You can import electrical devices to Australia and use them legally as personal imports on the network without requiring approvals.

        There are no insurance implications in doing this. An insurer will not and can not refuse a claim for the use of personal imported electrical devices.

        (And quite likely if only rated to 2000W but an AU appliance can draw more than this).

        Most of these products are not intended to switch heaters and other high amperage loads. This has nothing to do with Australia.

    • Maverick-au on 13/02/2018 - 06:30
      +1

      Just wondering if these arent rated for safety in australia and it causes a fire, is there a chance your insurance wont pay out?

      No they're isn't, these are personal electrical imports and allowed to connected to the network with no insurance implications.

      • mskeggs on 13/02/2018 - 06:46
        +2

        To agree with this, as people seem to speculate all the time about insurance:
        - the law says you need safety inspections to wholesale or retail electrical devices
        - I haven't been able to find any insurance PDS that mentions personally imported electrical items
        - Nobody who has posted here saying they "know" insurance will be refused has ever pointed to a source
        - If you consider it, every tourist bringing a camera charger or phone plug with them would be risking jeopardising insurance, which is not something I have ever heard of.

    • CacheHunter on 13/02/2018 - 09:14
      +5

      No. However, please be aware that there is a risk that the ultrasonic waves emitted by this device could cause your neighbor's cat to spontaneously self combust during a full moon.
      Source: brother of a friend of someone that once worked in a building next to an insurance company.

      • Tacooo on 13/02/2018 - 09:25

        Sweet! Buying two.

      • RockyRaccoon on 13/02/2018 - 11:35
        +1

        LOL, but you have it wrong, its spontaneously only if you use at full power, my insurance friend, (you know the so believable pixie, who promotes ueee), told me if its not at full power then the cat roasts slowly….

    • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 09:54
      +2

      Its funny how people keep asking about insurance asif the payout in case of fire somehow makes up for the risk to life, potential to affect neighbouring properties and the inconvenience of losing a house and all its possessions.

      • BigLeviathan on 13/02/2018 - 11:22

        Perhaps due to many articles talking about electrical devices that are not compliant catch fires, like this

        The ACCC said reported fires "most likely relate to products that would not comply with Australian electrical requirements, or to the use of a charger meant for another device".

        • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 11:27
          +1

          Yes but then the question should be "should I avoid these completely because hot stuff hurt bad?", not "will insurance pay me?" :D

        • BigLeviathan on 13/02/2018 - 11:40
          +1

          @wyrmy: My feeling is insurance companies will start to close the loophole, by adding the clause "if the fire caused by electrical devices that are not compliant to Australian law, no payout will be provided"

        • Maverick-au on 13/02/2018 - 13:32

          @televisi:

          @wyrmy: My feeling is insurance companies will start to close the loophole, by adding the clause "if the fire caused by electrical devices that are not compliant to Australian law, no payout will be provided"

          They will not, the law allows personal imported electrical items on the grid. They would push government for a change if these personal imports were causing fires but they are not, the ACCC and the fair trading departments are full of it and their claims are not backed by facts.

        • BigLeviathan on 13/02/2018 - 14:03

          @Maverick-au: fair enough…okay I'm buying this now :)

    • spaceflight on 13/02/2018 - 14:56

      Just wondering if these arent rated for safety in australia and it causes a fire, is there a chance your insurance wont pay out?

      Have a look here http://whrl.pl/RcJ3QO

      The person asked about compliance and was told you only need it if you want to sell the product.

      The person below said they worked in the industry and has seen claims denied because of non complied appliances.

      • If you consider it, every tourist bringing a camera charger or phone plug with them would be risking jeopardising insurance, which is not something I have ever heard of.

      Then there is also this which seems pretty logical. Think about hotels, if there was an issue they would have a big risk.

  • Super8Tab on 12/02/2018 - 23:16

    Like Gascar above I've bought 2 of them for the same price above - one worked and the other didn't connect to the wifi at all so i wouldn't recommend them, BG ended up refunding one after weeks of the paypal claim.

  • Cheagle on 12/02/2018 - 23:34

    Had a problem with these where they stopped working after 24-48 hours (switching it on/off didn't actually turn it on/off; red light will still switch on/off as normal)

    Fixed itself after leaving it for a week and then happened again after 24-48 hours of use.

    • cart on 13/02/2018 - 19:09

      Are you an Optus customer?

      I had this issue for some time and worked out it is an Optus router issue and not a device issue.

      Optus router (Sagecomm) has a limitation. Only 16 wifi clients can connect to the router at any given time (16 on 2.4 ghz and 16 on 5 ghz)

      Every time when I leave home and come back, one of the devices started working normally and I realized, when I leave home my mobile drops from the network and another device get a chance to join the network. Now I installed a wifi Access Point and turned off the wireless on Optus router (some smart devices doesn't work on 5 ghz)

      • Cheagle on 14/02/2018 - 23:33

        Nah it's not a router problem.

        The socket itself doesn't seem to work despite switching it on/off with the physical button and/or app. There's no 'sound' that you can usually hear when it switches on/off. It just stays permanently on or off

  • clx on 13/02/2018 - 00:06
    +1

    The app is the worst part of this socket. The socket is not compatible with 5g so the app insists that you can only connect to a 2.4g network. Problem is that the app is programmed badly - it stops you from connecting to any network with 5g capability, which is a problem when you have a dual band network under the same SSID like I do. It makes this socket unusable.

    The other thing I hate about this socket is that it is huge and is guaranteed to block enough of the neighbouring power outlet hole that makes it unusable.

    I don't use mine.

    • salem on 13/02/2018 - 06:46
      +1

      Might depend on the network? Mine's dual band 2.4/5 on the same SSID and works fine (unifi pro WiFi)

      • clx on 13/02/2018 - 09:48

        With the dual band, your device connects to whichever band is most optimal, which for me always seems to be the 5g one. I think for you that might be the 2.4g.

        • Ijuiceman on 13/02/2018 - 15:14

          Most devices that can do 2.4 & 5Ghz are hard coded to connect to 5Ghz as the preference. This is why they will hang on to 1 bar of 5Ghz, rather than swap to a 5x5 2.4Ghz signal

    • shagaroo on 14/03/2018 - 13:10

      Had this problem with the Jog Inching Self-locking switch I bought. Had to disable the 5g, connect it and then re-enable the 5g. Also using Unifi AP Pro.

  • mskeggs on 13/02/2018 - 06:48
    +5

    The green light on these is very bright, so will need some tape or something if you use it in the bedroom or in a dim TV room, unless you like the ambiance of an alien abduction.

  • Crocfreefree on 13/02/2018 - 09:27
    +1

    Say you AREN'T willing to risk the disaster of a house fire, what is the closest Australian standards certified product on the local market?

    • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 10:13

      Check out the belkin wemo products

      • frigit on 13/02/2018 - 12:17

        I have two of the Belkin wemo and they are utter rubbish. These sonoff are great!

    • Maverick-au on 13/02/2018 - 15:25

      Say you AREN'T willing to risk the disaster of a house fire, what is the closest Australian standards certified product on the local market?

      Don't buy anything like this and get rid of all your appliances. There are no standard certified products of the market like this, they are all self certified.

      If you don't want a house fire you need to replace what you have existing, replace your switchboard and never leave anything turned on when you're not in the immediate vicinity.

      Or you could live in the real world and realise that house fires are normally started by idiots who don't take the time to learn a little bit about electricity and the safe storage and use of gas and petrol in the house.

  • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 10:48

    Anyone know which, if any, Sonoff product I can use as a relay to trigger my garage opener?

    • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 10:55

      None from Sonoff I found. If you are brave you can follow some online tutorials to cut the power on a basic switch like this to turn it into a close circuit switch without voltage: https://www.gearbest.com/access-control/pp_1592718.html
      Then you will still have the problem of simulating a momentary press which would need more programming on the app end or another device in between.

      Searching for "Dry Contact Relay Switch" gives other hardware options but they are pricey and only seem to come in z-wave so far.

      • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 11:02

        Thanks. Bit of a newbie when it comes to this stuff so was hoping I could find something I wouldn't have to do any work with. I have a pi zero w which I was planning to use and a relay but bit lazy and worried I might stuff up the opener.

        I'll have a look at what you suggest though.

        • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 11:20

          Would definitely avoid the sonoff hacks you are not sure how to handle 240V power.
          The Pi Zero or a arduino should do the trick for the hardware. It should be a fun and safe learning exercise just using the io headers to close the contact but not sure what 'OS' you would boot into to allow remote controls from homeassistant or a smartphone.

        • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 11:30

          @wyrmy: Yeah - been meaning to set up the pi and keen to learn a bit but also worried about playing with the live voltage.

          Had a look around - would this do the job? Looks like it uses the Sonoff app as well.

        • SimBech on 13/02/2018 - 11:50

          @shagaroo:

          just saw this comment, thats the same one as i linked in my comment (cheaper from banggood too)

        • wyrmy on 13/02/2018 - 11:53

          @shagaroo: Nice fine! Cheapest potential option I've seen and has momentary toggle as well. Need to research more but looks promising. I'd buy one for testing but I use home-assistant and don't connect devices directly to the cloud so would need to check if the firmware can be flashed to support home-assist.

          If you just plan on using the app I think its definitely worth a shot for the price.

        • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 12:04

          @wyrmy: Thanks. Your suggestion of searching for "Dry Contact Relay Switch" lead me to the product.

          I don't like to connect things to the cloud either but I would put it on as separate IOT vlan. Might get this and give it a go. Then wait for Sonoff to come out with one that works with my own home automation - which I still have to build. :)

        • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 12:05

          @SimBech: Thanks saw the one you linked first then did more searching.

        • shagaroo on 13/02/2018 - 12:11

          Simple video for anyone interested though I think the guy is trying to make a profit on selling the device (which might be a different version) - good on him for trying:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiv7RpfQB_Y

        • SimBech on 13/02/2018 - 12:14
          +1

          @shagaroo @wyrmy:
          It can be flashed with Tasmota(google it) firmware that will enable it to communicate via MQTT (its a bit fiddely as there are no pin headers)
          im using mine with home assistant this way

    • SimBech on 13/02/2018 - 11:49
      +2

      this is what your looking for, get the cheaper (non 12v version)

      https://www.itead.cc/inching-self-locking-wifi-wireless-swit…

      i use one on the garage and on on the pc

      • schwinn on 13/02/2018 - 16:43

        THANKS!!! I've been looking for a new version of the Belkin Wemo Maker which unfortunately isn't sold anymore

  • Elias11 on 13/02/2018 - 10:59

    Would anyone know if you can set a timer on it via the apps, like turn on at X time and turn off at Y time?
    Example, set bedside table lamps to turn on 10 minutes before my alarm and turn off 20 minutes later?

    • salem on 13/02/2018 - 11:17
      +1

      Yes you can

      • Elias11 on 13/02/2018 - 11:19
        +1

        thank you!

  • ladofdestiny on 13/02/2018 - 11:09

    Got one, thanks OP!

  • points4life on 13/02/2018 - 12:37

    Anything in this price class for Apple homekit?

    • salem on 13/02/2018 - 12:43

      :D

    • hopper on 13/02/2018 - 16:47
      +1

      According to their site u can expect it soon, may be by the time it gets delivered :)

  • wjb on 13/02/2018 - 15:49

    how does this compare to xiaomi smart wifi?

    • cart on 13/02/2018 - 19:00

      This doesn't need a gateway/hub.

  • hopper on 15/02/2018 - 06:45

    So finally fixed this to use for my garage door setup, now I'm able to open my garage door with my stand alone smart watch when I go for a bike ride 😎

  • cray on 27/03/2018 - 13:36

    Just ordered 3 x of these. I hardly watch TV nowadays so thought it'll be good to keep my TV, Soundbar and PS4 powerboard plugged into one of these and turn them on via Google Home when I want to use the TV. Would this set up be considered high powered, i.e. >2000W?

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