In my view, perhaps the best long life soy milk by a mile. And it hardly goes on "specials". Usually sells at $4.80.
Bonsoy Longlife Soy Milk 1L $3.80 @ Coles
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AFAIK, Aldi only have it in stock periodically. Happy to stand corrected.
Not sure if that's true or not, I've bought it the last 2 weeks so far. SO in stock atm.
Stock can be patchy but its only because cafe owners come in and stock up because its cheaper than their distributors
Wholesale is $3.33
@skazclaw: is that a fact?
From one of the distributors I use. Yes.
@skazclaw: Thanks for the info, insightful! :-)
@skazclaw:
Wow, that's not much of a profit.
Sounds like the Apple of SoymilkI'm 100% positive Aldi and Coles buy it quite a bit cheaper (they would import it themselves). It's just what the small business' pay for it.
But yeah… Hard to compete with the big boys.
I've been buying it at Aldi for almost 6 months now and my local store has always had it in stock over that time.
Stock is patchy at Aldi, I can never get it from there and I check three stores constantly (Airport West, Moonee Ponds & City).
IGA had a great deal a few years back where you could get a 6 pack box for $20. Shame that deal is over!
Food for thought - cafe coffees.
A large 340ml coffee (predominantly milk) costs typically 50c extra for Bonsoy.
Bonsoy at $4 per litre, that's approx $1.33 for the drink.
Milk is typically $1 per litre, so 33c for same measurement.
That's approx $1 extra cost of Bonsoy vs milk and only charging consumer 50c.
I know that's retail price per unit, but scale it back slightly for bulk discount and still the gap may well be more than 50c. Anyone know bulk price so this makes any logic?They would likely use a commercial variant, and still likely absorb the cost as coffee is big margin.
With the turnover of a lot of coffee places all over, I'm not sure they can afford to be absorbing costs.
Decent cafes, don't use the $1 a litre stuff. If yours does then ask them lol.
Ah true. I don't drink milk so was just a guesstimate.
And what's different about the milk that they use?
I dunno. But as a self confessed milk lover. It tastes a lot better. I suspect it might have something to do with the fat content. But having said that there is a lot to be said for milk quality. If you've ever tried raw milk in NZ it tastes amazing. Now make a coffee with the stuff and you'll wonder what the crap you drink every day is.
A few years back in London there were a few (hipster) cafés which charged extra for Bonsoy for this very reason. IIRC around 50p for normal soy and 80-90p ($~1.50) for Bonsoy which thankfully we only pay 50c for here in Melbourne.
A coffee isn't 95% milk btw.
Latte, Flat White and Cappuccino are 90% milk. Former Barista here.
more like 80% milk
Haha, guys, a cup of coffee, for example a cup of Latte only has about 120ml of milk. For Capp, its even less because half of it is froth.
So the maths is out.
More like 48c a cup worth of soy, and more like 12c a cup worth of milk.
@wallace900402: Came here to post this. A fair chunk of the 'milk' in your coffee is just air.
No. They have a lot of milk, but it's not that high a ratio.
Good milk (Jersey in our case) is $1.50+ a litre. Small specialty dairy costs a little more again.
For Bonsoy a small cafe won't get any sort of bulk pricing. We buy from an organics shop up the street because they get pellets of the stuff & are cheaper than our wholesaler will supply it. There's additional time goes into fetching it though, which in itself is worth something.Almond milk costs more again & we charge accordingly.
Bonsoy is $3.33 wholesale is noted above, probably could get slightly cheaper if a real bulk user.
A coffee is not 340ml of milk remember, there is water and coffee in there also. You should be able to squeeze 4 coffees out of a box of bonsoy.
Specialty coffee places usually charge $5 to $6 for a large bonsoy coffee these days, some slightly higher. Some places are charging up to 70c extra for Bonsoy (which I think is an absolute joke).
I think coffee places make good margin on a bonsoy coffee when it is $5 and above.
Speciality coffee and milk/soy?! you must mean 'specific cafes' because speciality coffee is not meant to be mixed with sugar or milk.
Have you taken into account stroage costs? Milk you to refrigerate and have room in a cool room. Sou you do not.
Any higher than 50 cents is not right. Especially when other cafes start following despite them selling So good or vitasoy or something crap
Looks like a pack of rolling tobacco in that picture.
Most cafes in south Melbourne use this for their soy coffees, seems good to me!
It’s a great soy milk. Also made in Japan. My better half drinks this in the coffee and wakes up kinda radiating.
Lol
Am I missing something?
I have been buying the "Just Organic Soy Milk UHT 1L" from Aldi for about $1.60
Why such a price difference in soy milk?I guess people must enjoy the difference in taste
I have tried a variety of milks and my friends ask me the same question. Bonsoy makes my coffee taste different.. In a good way. I was never a coffee snob but I appreciate if a barista serves bonsoy because in my opinion it seems to leave an impression that they care about their soy coffee drinking customers.
Give it a try.
The ability to name drop your preferred hipster soymilk brand…pricele$$
It doesn't taste like chalk like a lot of soy out there.
That is probably due to the sugar content being much higher in bonsoy.
And the extra sugar helps with getting a good consistency in your coffee at the coffee shop (other brands are too watery).
Bonsoy to me tastes more watery than the So Good, regular stuff. Never understood its appeal
$4 a L for soy and it's watery? Not for me.
I like thick, heavy Soy milk. I wish I could buy some natural stuff near me. I want to make Douhua, the best snack in the world.
I don't understand :P?
Oh, linking in OzBargain sucks.
So Good contains a fair percentage of Canola Oil. So you're drinking Canola Oil. Canola Oil is so processed its not fit for human consumption. I used to love So Good until I read the ingredients.
If there are any Melbournians here. You can buy 6 packs of bonsoy from prahan convenience for about $19
THANK YOUUUU
bloody legend
Why would you pay $44 for a pack of 6 bonsoy? Crazy.
Check the use by dates, they might be short dated (but probably only 3 months or so which is find for most).
Did anyone here stop buying Bonsoy Soy Milk after its since-removed iodine-rich seaweed extract was linked to a host of thyroid problems? I believe it was the largest safety-related class action suit in Australia.
When some old guy died from salmonella in Kraft's peanut butter in the 90s I think the brand-paranoia lingered on for a few years, but fancy-pants soy milk is probably a niche. Our family probably bought Franklins' No Frills Peanut Butter back then… :)
The people who got sick from it were drinking bucket loads of the stuff everyday.
That was a long time ago.
Soyboys across OzBargain begin lactating with excitement
Need a screw cap. I know once opened it's meant be consumed quickly, but for household use more likely than not it will stretch over a couple of days.
I put mine in containers and freeze it since it's a bit of a treat - freeze half and drink the rest over a week.
Horrible shame to waste this pricy stuff!I keep mine in the fridge uncovered and its good for a week easy.
I stopped drinking soy after I found out it contains goitrogens, phytates and phytoestrogens.
please do elaborate: goitrogens = phytates = phytoestrogens = cancer?
He didn't want man boobs
Too late for that XD
so what do you drink instead?
Coconut milk & cream, prob use aldi cans more than anything.
Australia's Own Organic Unsweetened Almond Milk (not the best tasting though, I usually put this in the blender with coconut oil, organic coffee/tea with protein powder and cinnomon) and a2 Milk full cream.
@tonester: But it has vegetable gum (gellan), causes digestive issues and interacts with healthy bacteria in the gut.
The best I found was this http://drinkbruce.com/products/activated-almond/. I purchased it a few times, but it's expensive. In one instance, opened it up and was off even though it had 2 weeks left (easily exchanged at Woolies). So I don't trust it for the price. I would get it though if it was 1/2 price.
LOL you had me until you mentioned a2 milk.
vegetable gum (gellan), causes digestive issues and interacts with healthy bacteria in the gut.
do you have a sensitive gut? not sure that the evidence is conclusive
The best I found was this http://drinkbruce.com/products/activated-almond/
thanks - i forgot about nutty bruce :)
@serpserpserp: I'm not sure what's so funny. You should do "proper" research on the casein you think you know about.
The China Study isn't good enough for ya?
@serpserpserp: It's good enough, but not in the area of milk, doesn't go through how a2 casein works. It looks at a1 casein.
@tonester: You're right, it may do harm, but I rather avoid it. Not a sensitive gut, just on a mission to find what's a healthier alternative to products I previously owned and purchased.
@justmiike: I give the same almond milk to my daughter who has a milk intolerance. Didn't want to give her soy or rice due to hearing they aren't very good for you.
sure, but it's not necessarily unhealthy, and what you consider healthy, others may not
also nutty bruce is sweetened, whereas you drink unsweetened australia's own?
why not pureharvest which is better value?
@tonester: If it could negatively interact with good gut bacteria, that's not healthy. Showed abnormalities in rats, but not in a small human trial. So, it's probably okay, but there's a lack of data.
Thanks for highlighting Pureharvest, it's $3.39 at Woolies and has the same ingredients as Nutty Bruce and costs $1.61 less. Perfect.
Thanks for highlighting Pureharvest, it's $3.39 at Woolies and has the same ingredients as Nutty Bruce and costs $1.61 less. Perfect.
no worries - it was the same link that i gave you originally at the start :)
I've had soy as a milk substitute for my whole life so far (im 18 now) and my beliefs are directly opposite the people on this video. Perhaps I can still be saved. Definitely going to keep this in mind :) May even show this to my mum :)
Just imagine how much more of an alpha male you'd be if u never had it!
Honestly though, everything is scientifically backed up in the video..
Are you being sarcastic? It's hard to tell but he literally cherry picks facts to support his view. It's not scientific at all…
Soy consumed in moderation has not been linked to reduced test levels.
https://examine.com/nutrition/is-soy-good-or-bad-for-me/
The only soy milk I've found that froths up similar to normal milk when making coffee. Tastes better than the other soy variants I've tried too.
Everything processed seems to have issues. Soy milk gives you man-boobs, rice milk contains arsenic, both almond and coconut milk have carrageenan additives that are bad for some reason that I forget and finally cows milk has puss and blood in it (yeah it does sorry). So really the only way to be safe is make your own almond milk with organic almonds and whatever purified water method you choose. But oh man that takes forever. I choose soy milk when buy processed milk, make almond milk at home when I have time. Hot chocolate does not seem right in homemade almond milk though, brilliant in soy.
Australia's Own Organic Unsweetened Almond Milk doesn't have any carrageenan additives. It's the closest thing I have found (but not the best tasting at all).
Ingredients List: Filtered Australian Water, Organic Almonds (3%), Organic Agave Syrup, Organic Sunflower Oil, Salt.
Two issues here is the agave syrup and salt. No mention of what type of salt it is, if the agave is truly organic, then this is fine too.
In terms of milk, I'm assuming only sick cows will have pus and blood. That's why it's pasteurised. If I'm going to go for milk I'll pick the full cream a2 Milk Company brand. I don't know how they treat their cows, but they seem convincing (https://a2milk.com.au/faq/done-ensure-welfare-animals/) since all milk was supposed to be a2 until a mutation occurred some thousands of years ago in Europe.
So, I usually have those 2 in the fridge.
If you are so concerned about what you put in your body you do realize that normal milk (yes even A2) has casein and causes cancer? http://nutritionstudies.org/provocations-casein-carcinogen-r…
It is always interesting how people look for the tiniest problem with milk alternatives but when the casein fact stares them in the face well that is just too hard because everyone drinks milk right?
Yes I do realise and not ALL casein is the same. Do your research.
People don't look for the tiniest problems, they research and make an informed decision.
But, you're free to make your own choices and decisions. Just don't come across like you know it all and think the other poster is ignorant.
Drinking A2 doesn't change the fact its cows milk casein.
EDIT: The jury is still out on A2.
I find it cheaper buying a box of six from organic food shops for $20 per box.
I know this is a "bargain" off the usual cost, but even $3.80 is expensive for 1 litre of milk.
Unless you're Vegan, I don't see the need to drink soy milk. If you have digestion issues, there are better alternatives; e.g Lactose Free milk (which costs $2 for the same quantity)
There's no need to drink soy milk. The same way there's no need to eat pork over beef. Many people actually prefer soy milk.
Soy, tofu, etc. aren't "organic" fads or anything that the Western people portray them as, they're just another vegetable food like how butter is. Too bad people contrived some weird being around soy and tofu products. They're amazing.
I sort of agree. I had to get off regular milk since I'm lactose intolerant and I really latched onto Bonsoy because it was the only soy milk I liked the taste of and went really well with coffee.
I couldn't deal with the long term cost of it though. Per year I would be spending something like $500 on Bonsoy.
I've since switched to lactose-free milk which is half the price. It's got that slight sweetness to it that's similar to UHT (which I disliked at first), but the lovely creaminess of full cream milk is there.
Depends on your digestion issue doesn't it? Lactose intolerance actually affect a tiny portion of the population (although so many people will tell you otherwise! They are probably also magically gluten intolerance as well).
note that Bonsoy has only 15% soybeans - Soy Natural contains 28%, Soyana 18%, Vitasoy 17%
So what you are telling me is that is it in line with market standard except for Soy Natural.
not necessarily when you consider its price :)
Did everyone forget about the $25M payout from Bonsoy when they poisoned everyone? No thanks. Pass on this deal
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-24/bonsoy-iodine-victims-…
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Good price, but it’s $3.99 everyday at Aldi.