Hi guys.
I don't understand it that much.
I know ducted has a central cooler/heater etc. but do we pay for the electricity costs to do with that?
What would be the differences between a normal reverse cycle and a ducted when talking about financial and effectiveness?
I will be using it a lot and I always thought ducted was much cheaper.
Central load shifted to multiple rooms, thought the efficiency of one machine would be better than several cheaper ones.
Thanks everyone. It seems I might be thinking of something different like central cooling.
It depends how many rooms you want to simultaneously cool. Just cooling one room at once, it is cheaper to run a normal reverse cycle. Multiple rooms = ducted. Installing ducted is triple or quadruple a reverse cycle.
The most efficient way is a single reverse cycle in the living room and fans in the bedrooms because it is usually considerably cooler at night when you sleep.
Who pays to run it obviously depends on whose paying the electricity. Installation, if a rental property doesn’t have it already, it’s a big ask and will probably increase your rent. You would obviously not pay to have it added to a rental property unless your agreement is for a decade or your insane.
Not really. Ducted cooling for 3 rooms on the same side of my house was going to cost more to install than 3 back to back reverse cycles. Ultimately on a usage basis, the max kilowatt rating (which by the way, does not equal the max kilowatt usage) was going to be identical out of the unit for ducted then for the 3 back to backs. At least with separate multiple units you can control your usage considerably and have better control over temperature.
Oh yeah, you also get redundancy, if one unit blows up, you still have others that can partly cool the house, with ducted when your unit is cactus, your whole house is an oven at the wrong time.
I was a fan of ducted cooling/heating for a lot of reasons before I had to actually pay for and pay the running costs of one!
If it's a stand alone house/building, I thought it would be the tenant. I'm not sure if in a strata apartment complex though, but of course it will be "much cheaper" if your landlord is going to pay for it through the strata rates.
I think OP is asking who's footing the electricity bill for using the ducted system (not installs).
I would have thought all ducted system are still individually metered for usage billing even for high density MDU ?
If your unit has heating or cooling installed, it is most likely that is a single unit that is built into your flat. You will be paying for wither the electricity or the gas.
It's cheaper to run individual units unless they're all running at once.
A ducted system will be heating or cooling the bedrooms when you're sitting in the living room and vice versa when you go to bed it'll be heating or cooling the living room when you only want the temperature controlled in the bedroom.
You can get install zoned centrally ducted systems but you may as well spend the extra on stand alone back to back split systems and have cheaper running costs.
Some of the large apartment blocks use cooling towers which are much much more efficient and charge tenants / owners a 'chilled water' fee for operating the air-conditioning.
If there's a single cooler unit per apartment then it will usually just be connected to the same electricity meter as everything else and the tenant pays the electricity company directly.
In the unit i rented until recently, each apartment had it's own aircon on the patio. Aircon in communal areas fell under the strata fees.
If it was some type of massive communal aircon system, i'd assume that they'd just divide the operating costs evenly over all tenants.
Are you asolutley sure it's a communal aircon system?
Thanks for all the answers guys!
Does anyone know if most units you rent have an added management fee or something? I know in other countries there are cheap rentals but with huge management fees. Something like 25%, if I rent for $500/week, am I right in thinking I have to pay an extra $50 just for living in a big unit building?
Body corporate fees are paid by the landlord and included in your rent.
Your landlord also pays for the council rates and water rates.
Your landlord is also responsible for insuring the building against accidental damage.
Great, that makes a lot of sense.
Landlord only pays water if units aren't individually metered. If they are, tenant pays
I'd say ducted is more expensive than a new reverse cycle aircon to operate. Guess it depends how old it is.
Why do you think ducted was much cheaper?