Blushwood Berry Hylandia Docktrill for cancer - snake oil?

Foxtail on 31/12/2017 - 12:38

My friend has prostate cancer and does not wish to have radiotherapy or hormone treatment, he found Blushwood Berry Tincture EBC-46 Hylandia Docktrillii which has been on the market for a year or more. While there were proper medical studies completed about 2 years ago here in OZ with excellent results, sellers of pills and liquid form of Blushwood Berry Tincture EBC-46 Hylandia Docktrill are in the hundreds now. However, this product being sold world wide out of USA by numerous sellers as a supplement (not medically proven) so reminds one of snake oil for the following reasons:

Bottle says "Made in Australia" means nothing any one can print a label!.
Seller would not say who makes it
If its made in Australia why is it not sold here? it could be made anywhere for all I know, so where is the proof its made in Australia?.
I cannot find anyone it has cured, as its been on the market for about a year so there should be many (cured) by now.

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Comments

  • godoftoast on 31/12/2017 - 12:45
    +9

    Its snake oil pedaled by disgusting charlatans and ignoramuses to the desperate and poor.
    Convince your friend to get radiotherapy and hormone therapy now. If he gets it now his long term survival will increase dramatically. If he continues to be indecisive and or delay treatment then it may not be an option for him anymore.

  • Flamo on 31/12/2017 - 13:04
    +4

    100% snake oil. As @godoftoast said, get your friend to have proper medical treatment. If he decides to go with bullshit homeopathy treatments he will not get better.

  • try2bhelpful on 31/12/2017 - 13:09

    completely agree with the others, your friend should get on with the medical treatment ASAP. Steve Jobs wouldn't had a much better chance of survival if he had jumped for medical intervention earlier.

  • t1e2l3l4 on 31/12/2017 - 13:18
    +8

    Hi,

    After lurking on this forum for eons, I've created an account just to respond to your post.

    I work in the medical field, and am often incredibly skeptical about cures like these (and I will admit my bias in this respect). However, I've found the actual journal article that described the purported benefit of this plant: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.…

    In summary: this study was performed in MOUSE models (which does not always correlate to efficacy in humans), AND it was for direct injections of the plant-derived molecule ('Intra-Lesional Injection of the Novel PKC Activator EBC-46'), NOT for oral plant extracts.

    There have been no further studies that I can find (apart from this one by Boyle et.al), which suggests that further formal research was not undertaken. Personally, I would therefore be incredibly suspicious about the dubious claims made by the sellers of these products. I would NOT take these products with the expectation that they will cure my prostate cancer.

    Your friend is entirely within his rights to refuse chemotherapy; HOWEVER, it should be with the understanding that this will end the active management of his cancer, and put him on a palliative heading (focusing on symptom management, rather than prolonging life). Prostate cancers can be slow growing, and depending on your age, may not be what actually kills you. Encourage your friend to speak with their urologist/oncologist; especially with the latter, have a frank discussion on why he doesn't want chemo/radiotherapy (fear about side effects etc.); these barriers can often be mitigated/managed.

    Good Luck!

  • Foxtail on 31/12/2017 - 13:34
    +1

    Thanks for the input its what I thought, going over to see him this week and try and persuade him to get proper treatment.

  • [Deactivated] on 31/12/2017 - 13:39

    Echoing above posters in that A, get your friend real medical advice and B, avoid nonsense supplements like this one.

    Cancer treatments can be rough on the body, so I get why they might be scared. And there is a place for non-medical treatments (such as massage, relaxation techniques, even makeovers etc.) within a cancer treatment program, as they can help the patient to cope with the side-effects and increase quality-of-life simply by making the patient feel better about themselves.

    Supplements like this have no place in that. Save the money for something that they will at least enjoy.

    And seriously, get them to a real doctor. As their friend, you need to step-up for them and support them. Fact-checking nonsense supplements like you're doing is a good start. :)

  • Foxtail on 31/12/2017 - 13:45
    +1

    Will do.

    • [Deactivated] on 31/12/2017 - 14:32

      If I didn't make it properly clear, good on ya for doing this. Sometimes the justifiable anger towards the bottom-feeders that sell this stuff can get in the way.

      Asking questions (even the stupid ones!) to make sure they get the best treatment or check that they haven't overlooked something is top work. Hope it goes well for them. An old mate of mine was diagnosed with the same thing a few years ago. He got prompt treatment, a quick surgery and a few months off work and he's now back at work and making life hard for apprentices like nothing happened.

  • Yttrium on 31/12/2017 - 15:19

    Read the story of how Steve Jobs got tricked in to snake oil , then it was too late for him to survive.

  • Foxtail on 31/12/2017 - 15:47
    +1

    What does amaze me is that this snake oil is being advertsed on eBay and Amazon as a potential cure, I think the authorities here and elsewhere should put a stop to it, because as far as I can see it has no merit at all, no one has been cured and its being sold on the basis that medical research has proven without doubt to be a cure for humans when it has not, just clinical trials, on top of this, one has no idea who actually manufactures it.

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