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Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF1 w/ Kit Lens (20mm or 14-45mm) for $569.95

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Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF1 w/ Kit Lens (20mm or 14-45mm) for $569.95
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surferguy on 29/11/2010 - 14:15 shoppingsquare.com.au (386 clicks)
Last edited 29/11/2010 - 14:34

Seems like a really cheap price for an awesome camera. Be aware though that a replacement model (GF2, with 1080p movie support + touch screen) is on its way in a couple of weeks.

Note: Although the site says 14-55mm, I believe the kit lens is a 14-45mm so just take notice.

Comes in 3 different configurations:

14-45mm Kit Lens:
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/p_64918_Panasonic_Lumix_DMC…

20mm Kit Lens (Black Body):
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/p_64919_Panasonic_Lumix_DMC…

20mm Kit Lens (White Body):
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/p_64920_Panasonic_Lumix_DMC…

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  • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 14:25
    +2

    It is a good deal, but then I checked shipping yesterday, and it came to $80. In total, I think it was still $10 cheaper than places like dwi and citiwide, but I'm hesitant about ordering from shoppingsquare - my previous experience with them didn't leave me with a good impression. I'm sure there are others here that have had no problems with them though.

    PS I compared them to dwi and citiwide because the details on the shoppingsquare page suggests that it is a grey import.

  • lazed on 29/11/2010 - 14:26

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  • yjm on 29/11/2010 - 14:29
    +1

    Pretty decent deals.

    Be aware though that a replacement model (GF2, with 1080p movie support + touch screen) is on its way in a couple of weeks.

    I actually prefer the form factor of the GF1 (slightly meatier body with physical controls).

    • surferguy on 29/11/2010 - 14:33
      +1

      forgot to mention that. I'll include it in the description.

      • lazed on 29/11/2010 - 14:43
        +1

        and $79 shipping fee

        • zenzen on 29/11/2010 - 14:51
          +2

          price is good if shipping rate was decent. It is not bargain after all so I neg it.

        • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 15:01

          RE: zenzen

          but…but….have you compared total cost with other reputable shops? =P

          Because it is my suspicion that you haven't.

        • lazed on 29/11/2010 - 15:05

          illusionary: my point was to mention the shipping fee in the listing, not to compare the fee to other shops.

          edit: lol you ninja edited to address zenzen

        • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 15:07
          +1

          RE: lazed

          lol yeah sorry, I realised my post could be misinterpreted, hence the edit

  • hellbound on 29/11/2010 - 14:30
    +1

    Shopping square is grey import for cameras.

    GF2 is about to be released, and this one got a fairly poor score in the DXO mark -
    http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/Camera-Sensor/All-teste…

    Though i haven't seen a hybrid get a good score yet.

  • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 14:45
    -1

    A better deal in my mind is the http://www.tscamerahouse.com.au/sony-nex-5-black-18-55mm-and…

    Sony is doing $100 cahs back making it $899

    So thats $330 extra for a really great 16mm f/2.8 Prime Lense (I'm a landscaper photographer so its very useful most people may find little use for it but when you see the quality of shots and the effects you'll never go back)

    The NEX is superior as it uses the brand new 14Mp Exmor CMOS Sensor (This is one of the best sensors I have used for Low Light shooting its amazing and trumps every Micro 4/3's camera I've used its also superior to my D90 in terms of Noise Pattern and performance at ISO 3200-6400)

    I use both the EP2 and the GF1 and both failed horribly in low light. The 2nd issue i found was the poor LCD quality the NEX on the other hand is amazingly clear and sharp.

    Theres 2 faults with the NEX and thats the lack of on body controls hence why it won't replace my D90 anytime. and the 2nd is a slight favouritism to warm white balances however this is easily fixed in PP

    I'd say the pro's for an extra $330 are worth it:

    1080p Recording
    Best quality Micro 4/3 sensor on the market
    Sweep Panoramic (Sony has nailed this vs the competitors versions)
    16mm f/2.8 Lense

    Ohh and ofcourse my price is local it's not imported so you have a full years warranty and no hassle of sending back to Singapore

    BTW I chose to Neg because I feel anyone who buys this will be disappointed they didnt spend the extra I know I was when i bought it and the EP2

    • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 14:57

      hmm…sorry, but I have to question relevance. The NEX may or may not have better attributes, but ultimately, it is a totally different product. I'm not sure that a negative vote is warranted.

      Your "pros" really depend on the user e.g. video recording, panoramic photos. I'm not sure the lens is actually a pro? The GF1 comes with a 20mm f1.7 prime which is pretty sweet for normal use.

      In any case, we could continue to move up the food chain and compare cameras $330 more expensive than the NEX with even more features.

      • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 16:17
        +1

        Ultimately it is my opinion but I have done a fair amount of research into Micro 4/3's camera's, however this is not a totally different product it's in the same class as the GF1 I just think buyers looking at this type of camera should be aware of its lack luster quality

        I still think the NEX is the best 4/3rd's on the market and trumps some entry level DSLR

        Either way it's my opinion and if the Neg is unjustified I'll happily remove it

        BTW the 20mm f/1.7 is a great sharp lense however with the above deal you get one or the other the NEX is compared if you look at the single lense or you have hte option of the twin kit which as i stated is only $330 more expensive with full warranty it is defintely comparable

        • eug on 29/11/2010 - 17:04

          just a bit of nitpicking.. the NEX doesn't have a 4/3rds sensor, it has an APS-C sized sensor, the same size as the majority of DSLRs.

          I'd love an NEX to complement my main DSLR. I used to be a GF1 fan till I bought a sony P&S with an exmor R sensor. Wow. Awesome!

          (oh also, the NEX doesn't use an Exmor R sensor, just an "Exmor". It's great though!)

        • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 20:29

          Yes sorry it's just the Exmor and your correct it's not really a 4/3rd's sensor but from a size / style it would more relate to a Micro 4/3rd's rather than a DSLR

          Either way $30 more for a camera with more potential lol

    • laser on 30/11/2010 - 06:59

      If you think you found a bargain why dont you post it as a bargain, instead of sniping at someone else's post?

  • Dan_ on 29/11/2010 - 15:51

    WHAT? $80 shipping? Don't other stores deliver entire desktop computers for less than that? I knew it would be something ludicrously high…

    • andy19363 on 29/11/2010 - 16:06

      negging because shipping is high is somewhat unhelpful….if, despite and including high shipping fees, this deal is better than anywhere else, then the deal should stand.
      Negging will remove it….

      Negging because it isn't a Sony, (ie completely different product), is also not especially helpful…..

      • lazed on 29/11/2010 - 16:11
        +1

        the total deal might be ok, but the business itself might be bumping up the shipping fee to subside the product cost to avoid taxes etc, just like ebay sellers do it to reduce seller fees. if that's the case i don't think we should encourage that behaviour. my opinion anyway.

        also http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Consumers/Advertising_and_…

        the savings amount they specify is illegal.. the saving is 3.4% compared to their normal price

        • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 18:37
          +1

          Have you reported them to the Dept. of Fair Trading? There was a fairly enthusiastic response last time they tried to get away with their Facebook promotion lol

        • lazed on 29/11/2010 - 20:05

          Sounds good. Any link? :)

          Haven't no, a lot of info required, next time they annoy me I will :)

        • Dan_ on 29/11/2010 - 21:21
          +2

          I remember there was a very recent sale where a basic 1TB ext hdd had a ridiculous original price of $499.

          Anyway, I gave a neg vote because ShoppingSquare routinely uses dishonest practices… inflating shipping fees to make up for the low sale price is standard practice and ludicrous savings claims is not uncommon. Not to mention that facebook promotion they ran a while back where the promotion was honoured only after a huge backlash from customers.

          I wouldn't have negged if this was one off… and I'm not blaming the person that made the post.

      • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 16:19

        How is the Sony a completely different product?

        This camera is classed as a Micro 4/3rd's I haven't compared it to a DSLR or a point and shoot. I've compared it to another Micro 4/3rd's camera

        Either way people buying this type of camera should be aware of the other 4/3rds variants on the market

        • andy19363 on 29/11/2010 - 16:29

          How is the Sony a completely different product?

          because it's not a panasonic…….
          your observations are valid and useful, but not deserving of a negative vote…..the product you are discussing is some $330 more expensive than this one…..

        • illusionarybreeze on 29/11/2010 - 17:09

          RE: andy

          I missed it the first time because it wasn't exactly clear, but the listing BenMHarvey linked to was a twin lens kit. You had to click the link to fully understand the context of his post. Whether the lenses contained within that package are worth it is another topic to discuss.

          RE: BenMHarvey

          As for relevance, yes, helpful constructive discussion. However, I wouldn't class it as a micro 4/3 when it contains a (full size?) APS-C sensor. From a size vs. function point of view, yes, the NEX would be comparable to the PENs and GF1

  • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 16:26

    Well if $330 is too much hows this

    http://www.tscamerahouse.com.au/sony-nex-3-silver-18-55mm.ht…

    $599 ($699 - $100 cashback)

    So that's an extra $30 for a top of the line sensor, higher quality LCD, newer camera and it's in the same class as it's micro 4/3's. The NEX 3 reviews higher than the GF1 aswell but thats really a given since the NEX is a few months old

    No need for shipping Harvey Norman matches this price so most of us live near some form of electrical supplier

    Ohh and Edit this is obviously Australian Stock. So full Australian Warranty, unlike shoppingsquare which is international and can take upwards of 3 weeks

    • andy19363 on 29/11/2010 - 16:31

      it's still a different product…….
      If you feel you have found a bargain, then post it in it's own right……

      For whatever reason, people may wish to buy a panasonic……

    • eug on 29/11/2010 - 17:20

      as much as i like the NEX, it really is a different product. the GF1 was designed to be the DSLR user's 'casual camera' will fully-accessible manual controls while the NEX was designed to be a better point and shoot camera.

      • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 20:30

        GF1 was designed to be an advanced Point and Shoot

        The NEX would more be comparable to a complimenting camera for any DSLR user because it shares the same type of sensor

        • eug on 29/11/2010 - 20:33

          that would have to be the most complicated point and shoot camera i've seen with its half a million buttons and controls, then. :)

          the only thing holding me back from the NEX is the complete lack of external controls, which the GF1 has (and the GF2 doesn't). It would likely frustrate any DSLR user. The NEX was designed to be used in auto mode.

        • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 20:54

          Well still compliments my shooting style it uses a virtual dial ring which works quite well I shoot mostly in Aperture Priority or Full Manual for Bulb. Not too much of delay switching obviously nowhere near as fast as my D90 but thats not overly an issue with shooting landscapes

          And both camera's feature Auto so really both are designed to be used as point and shoots if you want to but ehh people who shoot like that really shouldn't be buying camera's like these

    • [Deactivated] on 29/11/2010 - 18:18

      The Sony NEX series cameras are NOT m4/3 cameras. The Sony uses it's own 'e-mount' lens system. The GF1 vs NEX3/5 isn't really a fair comparison. The NEX has a much larger sensor (different depth of field characteristics). Both their controls and interfaces are targeted towards different audiences. Also the 40/1.7 equiv pancake vs the 24/2.8 pancake are two completely different types of lenses for different uses. Neither can be 'better'.

      The newer Panasonic GF2 is more of a direct competitor to the NEX 3/5.

      • BenMHarvey on 29/11/2010 - 20:32

        Yeah I did realise this after my little rant, however alot of reviewers still put this side by side with the Pen's and GF series because of it's size

        Either way I stand by my comments

        And in the end $30 extra for a camera marginally larger with a full sized DSLR sensor and Full Australian Warranty, definitely makes the GF1 seem overpriced

        • andy19363 on 29/11/2010 - 22:52

          So…it's a different product, different manufacturer, does a different job, and costs more.
          Whilst it's nice to hear about the sony…how it compliments your shooting style etc etc, it's not really relevant to the original deal. You and some reviewers like this camera…..that's fine, and useful to hear about

          However…
          You provide no evidence that the panasonic is a poor product, nor that it can be found cheaper at another retailer. You also provide no evidence that this retailer is unreliable.
          I'm struggling to see a justification for your negative vote……

        • BenMHarvey on 30/11/2010 - 09:43

          I'd hardly say it doe's a different job.

          It also costs less because of the postage so the Nex 3 is a saving of $50 vs the above bargain

          It's also local stock (I'm not saying anything about the retailer they are very reputable, but grey stock is grey stock and local stock is local stock. The only thing i can say about the retailer is they say it's Australian Warranty but yeah look on the manufacturers website they are not an Australian dealer they merely import and either send the product overseas themselves or void the warranty by sending it to a local non authorised repair centre)

          Look at the Noise Test reviews alone and you know the GF1 is a poor performer in low light

          http://www.digitalrev.com/en/sony-nex-5-vs-panasonic-lumix-g…

          http://www.digitalrev.com/en/quick-comparison-of-sony-nex-5-…

          So there you go I found a cheaper superior camera what else do you need?

          BTW don't be a twit and say different manufacturer since when do manufacturers compete with their own products obviously you have to compare between manufacturers lol

          Both products are non relfex camera's they are in the same league

        • andy19363 on 30/11/2010 - 11:13

          http://www.digitalrev.com/en/quick-comparison-of-sony-nex-5-…

          from your link…..

          Overall, the GF1 may still be delivering the best image quality of the lot….

          People may therefore wish to buy the panasonic, and buy it grey….
          It's fine you have an opinion….we all do. However, your inappropriate neg, along with the others on this post means it is no longer on the front page. So all of your info about the sony is not available to people thinking about either camera. Which is not helpful to anyone…..

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