inserts comment about tap water being free
I just noticed that both of them have gone up in prices
Coles > $6 to $8.50
Woolworths > $6 to $9.00
Disappointed!
Coles Spring Water+Woolworths Spring Water Price Have Gone up
[Deactivated] on 02/12/2017 - 14:23
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Officeworks - $7
That’s because of the 10c container deposit scheme
yes, just stock up when you're in Victoria
That's been happening for years buddy, why the price increase only coming now?
Edit: Sorry just found out that NSW have recently brought in the 10c refund. Good for them
It’s a joke, hardly any collection sites have been rolled out and the government is giving out subsidies to bring in this scheme. The only people that’ll profit are pubs/clubs/resturants and maybe perhaps local councils given the small number of collection sites.
Clearly not even considering the huge positive environmental impact this will have? Lol
@realfancyman: recycling is a joke, many recyclers won’t recycle if it’s not economical to do so. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-07/recycling-companies-fo…
Clearly not even considering the huge positive environmental impact this will have?
A positive impact on the environment is an illusion. Drink prices based on wow's example may increase by 15%. Consumers have to work more to buy the same amount of items. More work may mean that more resources are required like fuel, electricity, food, etc.
What stops someone buying new bottles for say 5c then cashing them in for 10c?
Link please?
That's not the only product that has increased, Colesworths 425g canned tuna went from $2 a can to $2.60 a few months ago.
Good time to stop purchasing bottled water as a convenience and get refillable bottles instead. (Not knocking bottled water as a general matter - I'm sure it has good uses in certain situations.)
I find the whole scheme weird. So, we have recycling of bottles and cans today in special bins. But now instead, they create a separate scheme where the price of bottles and cans goes up 15c so we can get a 10c refund, and have to have a 4th "recycle" bin just for these so you get the extra you paid back. Don't get it…
Pretty simple really.
By applying a value to recyclable waste products there is the hope recycling will increase.If mass recycling was successful, the requirment for such a scheme would not exist.
HUmanity is the product of our own stupidity.If recycling, and the cans and bottles, actually had a value, they shouldn't need to put up prices.
Are you refering to the scrap value of said items?
The cost of the scheme is pushed back onto manufacturers, which is carried down the chain to the end user.
The system will reward those that are prepared to collect the materials that have a bounty on them.
A good opportunity for kids with some work ethic to make a few bucks, after all jobs like delivering news papers are on the decline.The cost of the scheme is pushed back onto manufacturers, which is carried down the chain to the end user.
That's not how it's structured. The cost-increase is due, directly, to the government adding the actual deposit amount to the price of the product, effectively holding it for the purchaser until the purchaser returns the container.
Which is basically conceding that the container itself, and recycling, is worthless.
Are you suggesting the scheme collects the levy from the retailers?
That would be an extraordinarily messy situation, there is significantly more retailers than there are manufacturers/importers.
Regardless of where in the supply chain the levy is collected, it exists.Which is basically conceding that the container itself, and recycling, is worthless.
Worthless to who? Future generations, the environment, consumers, little baby Jesus?
If the existing recycling scheme is not achieving the desired result, the only other options are regulation or banning the use of said items.
If you have any thoughts on what the golden bullet is, I am all ears.
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
When I was a kid you took your bottles back to the milk bar for a refund. I remember most bottles had labels indicating refunds in SA for a long time. Aluminium cans have had recycle value for quite some time as well. These sort of schemes reduce rubbish. I wish fast food packaging had a similar bounty, I’m sick of all the discarded rubbish on the streets and waterways.
I will still throw all this in my yellow bin. Why do I want ANOTHER bin in my house. The cost of petrol will exceed the money back. And most people will do the same. So that 15c extra we are charged will just be profited by Coke etc. who own the scheme.
@singingwolf: not if you collect a number of them before you take them in. However, good for you putting it in the yellow bin; I wish everyone did. I’m hoping the deposit will encourage the scavengers you see with aluminium cans, people who collect lots of them and take them in. Particularly if they are collecting them from where people have been littering.
I noticed that Smiths Chips are or are now from 175g dropped down to 170g
inserts comment about bottled water not being the ozbargain way
yeah waste your money and pollute the environment!!
Actually the Coles price is $8.40. There was no indication of price where I picked up mine but I didn't complain as we had frozen goods and I knew the reason anyway. But the new price should have been displayed.
Coles/Woolies sliced bread has gone up from 85 cents to $1.00.
What’s wrong with our tap water ?
There's nothing wrong with tap water but the spring water is a very high quality water. I've found that these bottled water has a much higher ph level in comparison to tap water. You can easily buy a ph test strip and test it out yourself.
And what effect does this have that makes it worth paying for?
Do your own research on acid vs alkaline and decide if it's worth paying for.
And how are you going to do that? How much is that going to cost?
That's like saying if you want more vitamins and fibre just consume multi vitamins and metamucil instead of eating more fruits and vegetables. It's not the same thing. And putting bi carb soda in water is going to change its taste as well.
@armdrags: well you could, but fruits and vegetables are cheaper. Buying "premium" water is like taking vitamins and metamucil instead of eating fruits and vegetables
Buying a multi-vitamin and metamucil is a lot cheaper than spending money on fruits and vegetables. The quantity and variety of vitamins included in the multi is a lot cheaper than buying so many fruits and vegetables at large quantity to get the same amount of vitamins.
Anyway, the point is that the experience is not the same. Eating fruits and vegetables naturally to get the benefits is not the same as drinking a multi-vitamin and metamucil to get the same benefit. The tap water with bicarb soda taste different to bottled spring water. I'd rather drink the spring water over bicarb soda tap water any day.
And there's also the convenience aspect of not having to go through the trouble of adding bicarb soda in tap water every time you want to drink. With bottle spring water you just open and drink. For example people can easily buy chicken nuggets at a supermarket and prepare it themselves rather than buying it from mcdonalds but people do it for the convenience aspect.
@armdrags: well I disagree with your notion in the first place that alkaline water is of some benefit and that tap water is even necessarily acidic so I'll just stick with the easy tap water
When did I ever say alkaline water is of some benefit? That's your decision.
the spring water is a very high quality water. I've found that these bottled water has a much higher ph level in comparison to tap water
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Read it again. I've never said it's better. Having a higher ph level in water doesn't mean it's higher in alkalinity. However, it's not hard to imagine that spring water is high in alkalinity because it is extracted from a natural spring source. The combination of rocks and soil they pass through will no doubt contribute to the high level of alkalinity in spring water. That's why I didn't say that spring water is better than tap. Again we don't know for sure how better it is to consume organic over non-organic. But if price is a non factor I would choose organic over non-organic any day just as I would choose to drink from a natural spring source over tap water.
I never said anything about higher quality. I said it has a higher ph level. I can't guarantee it's higher quality than tap water but it's a high quality water due to the high ph level which is not hard to imagine that it's high in alkalinity due to being extracted from a natural spring source. If you attribute taste to being higher quality then I would definitely say yes it is higher quality over tap water. Most people think there's no difference between tap water and spring water but that's not the case and that is my point.
Having a higher ph level in water doesn't mean it's higher in alkalinity.
That's literally what it means.
pH
piːˈeɪtʃ/Submit
noun CHEMISTRY
a figure expressing the acidity or alkalinity of a solution on a logarithmic scale on which 7 is neutral, lower values are more acid and higher values more alkaline. The pH is equal to −log10 c, where c is the hydrogen ion concentration in moles per litre.Also,
Again we don't know for sure how better it is to consume organic over non-organic.
MINERALS are by definition non-organic. WTF are you smoking?
I've found that these bottled water has a much higher ph level
You realise that pH doesn't work on the scale of "higher is better" right? I mean, if that was the case, we should all be chugging bleach (Hint: DON'T DO THAT.)
I didn't know about the refund scheme. cheers all. Free tap water for everyone.
"Free tap water for everyone."
That depends upon where you live.
My water supplier charges for every drop.
Clearly at a fraction of the cost of bottled water, my point is there is no such thing as a free lunch in this life.you can find free water at public toilets, parks, dams and rivers.
I nominate you for Ozbaraginer of the year.
Just driving to the local public toilet to get a drink.Dependant upon where you live, there is still an expense associated with traveling to get your free water.
I've noticed massive price creep on a heap of grocery items over the last couple of years… No aldi etc in Tassie. We are stuck with Colesworth.
On the odd occasion I have purchased bottled water, I feel dirty and defeated. Paying for something that you can get for free is for me the exact opposite of the high one gets when finding a bargain
Where is this free water everyone's talking about?
Time to buy imported water.
Can we as a country/community stop buying bottled water? We're privileged to live in a country where tap water is readily available and drinkable. It's an absolute disgrace that there is still a bottled water industry in Australia.
Bring tap water to a picnic, BBQ or the beach sounds like fun. What next ? BYO cups to Gloria jeans?
The solution is easy. Don't buy it if you don't like it.
yeah I agree its too hard to open a bottle, fill it with tap water, close the lid and take it to the beach
One bottle sure. How about 24 or 48 bottles. You fill them too?
@whooah1979
BYO cups to Gloria jeans?
Such a thing alread exists.
Dissposable coffee cups are lined with plastic and not easily recyled effectively.There is a movement where coffee shops offer a discount if you BYO cup.
The solution is easy. Don't buy it if you don't like it.
Be part of the solution, not the problem.
Option two: try a reusable cup. Larry & Ladd in Regent Arcade recently introduced a $1 discount for customers bringing their own takeaway cups.
How much are they charging for a regular cappuccino to be able to provide this discount?
Don't know mate, I don't drink coffee.
With a rapidly expanding population these issues will only get worse.
Whilst the affects may not impact on our lives on a daily basis right now, future generations are going to have some serious issues to deal with.If I may touch on your comment about the issue of water at a picnic, we live in a convenient society.
You turn a tap and water comes out, you flick a switch and have instant power.
It’s easy to get in a mindset where the thought of filling a reusable bottle with water is an issue.
Society will need to adapt to live in the future.
It’s easy to think problems do not exist if you are unaware of them.
Still showing as $6 online here in WA.
I might grab a few if the price is going to rise soon, thanks.
Ifs funny they are part of the "Down Down and staying down" campaign.