Car Ignition Barrel Replacement and Home Alarm System

So unfortunately yesterday our house was burgled, and apart from leaving a sour taste in my mouth, I have decided to expedite my plans for home security.

First thing first though - they took the spare key to our 2015 Hyundai ix35. Have called the dealer who have quote $1800 for replacement set (barrel and 2 keys) + labour.

A couple of question about this:

1) I've had a quick look over the net but not sure if I'm using the right keywords - are there any options other than the dealer (ie. an auto locksmith) that can do this job, quite possibly cheaper.

2) If we do just go with the dealer, which could cost $2k (flapping bastard thieves), insurance excess is $795. I've run a dummy quote and added in one insurance claim. The quoted premium was only ~$17 more than what we paid for our premium last (back in October). To me, with such a small increase of premiums, and saving $1,200 by only paying the excess, it seems like a no-brainer to go the insurance route, but am wondering if anyone knows if their might be anything I'm missing.

Onto the next part of the heading, alarms/CCTV. Now I've had a look at a few sites, but all seem to be vendors than want to put you on a monthly monitoring plan. In my head, I would like an alarm that I can chuck in a SIM that can message my phone, that is also resilient with cats (2) in the house. I figure if I go something like this, as well as install cameras in the house, I could be notified, check the cameras and if I see an intruder, can act accordingly.

PS. Sorry, I know some of this may be answered elsewhere, but between trying to organise other things, as well as insurance and police, my minds just a bit full, so would appreciate any help answering my tailored questions.

Yes it may be more of an upfront cost than a monitoring arrangement, but I believe it will provide the same benefit as a monitoring service without the ongoing cost, so for the next question:

3) Can anyone recommend a security alarm (possibly multiple sensors) that is OK with cats and that you can setup to contact yourself without the ongoing cost of a monitoring service.

On the next note, has anyone ever used this Swann kit.

I've seen a bit of negativity on WP, but it seems to have enough value for money and it would be just as much about confirming an intruder is there, rather than identification (I mean chuck on a balaclava and a CCTV provides no help identifying).

On a lighter note, the D head stole one of our credit cards and chose to use it at 3 of the local shops (about 5 transactions at the Woolies). Cops are in the process of getting CCTV footage so hopefully they can catch this creep.

Comments

  • home contents insurance may not cover the replacement of your car keys..
    there is a grey area for this, and your car insurance wont do it either and knowingly that the keys are no longer in your possession and if your car gets stolen the insurance wont cover you if they can prove you did not provide the necessary mean to prevent the vehicle from being stolen.
    this was a few years ago and things may have changed.

    • Hey there, is it cool if I clarify?

      Totally understood the car keys won't be understood by contents, annoyed, but understood.

      So are you saying that insurance won't be prepared to help with the costs of ensuring the car is kept secured? We've changed all the locks and reset the garage motor, so I'm not too concerned of them gaining easy access, but I would've hope that car insurance would consider it in their interests to help get the stolen keys made redundant. I guess if they won't cover theft knowing that the keys are stolen, they possibly don't care…

      • +1

        same thing happened to me a few years ago..

        their argument was in order for them to pay for an item the accessory needed to be attached to the car at the time it was stolen, like a car stereo or golf clubs in the boot.

        so my reply was.. that you recommend that I store my spare set of keys in the car? they then replied no we wouldn't do that but couldn't suggest a place to store the keys. as they deem the spare keys as an accessory to the car and not a necessity.

        • Fair enough. That sucks, but I guess it is what it is.

        • @tomsco:

          doesn't hurt to try as things may have changed, if its a contactless key to enter the car and start the car then you might have to get an original from the manufacturer but if its a key with a chip that you insert into a barrel to start the car then.. you can get those cut from a automotive lock smith

        • @Archi: Some insurance policies specifically cover loss of car kets following a burglary - check your terms.

  • get a dog

    • Haha, we are more cat people, but it is something I have considered.

  • as far as home security… you want to have a deterrent, if you have someone already inside your house to trigger an alarm, more then likely something is already broken for them to be inside which will cost you money. sensors inside the house are useless much better if they are outside.

    preventing the burgular from breaking a window, door or wall is the goal.

    • Well funny you say that, we're actually scheduled to get some security doors and roller shutters on some of the windows - it was more a case of noise/heat reduction. We've just had the company out and are not getting them all done. It's a pity, we've only been here two months and people will probably drive past thinking we're paranoid.

      Basically my plan is:
      *Security doors
      *Roller shutters
      *CCTV on the outside
      *Alarm on the inside
      *Sensor lights for nights

      The CCTV on the outside and alarms on the inside might seem counter intuitive (happy for feedback) but I figure if our alarm goes of and it notifies me, I can quickly jump on the cloud service for the CCTV to confirm. As my OP, it's a combination of being a deterrent but also giving me the capacity to remotely check.

      Thanks so much for suggestions.

  • You say the dealer quoted $1800 for a new barrel and 2 spare keys, but what about the doors? Do they have key holes to manually turn the barrel?

    If they don't, why can't Hyundai just delete the stolen key fob from the ECU? No need to replace everything.

    If they door have key barrels in the doors, no point just replacing the ignition barrel when they can still get in the car and steal everything from inside the car, and also release the handbrake and just tow it away and re-barrel it again at their leisure.

    • Good question. IIRC, the guy did mention the doors, but I'll follow up.

      But yes, it's got the slot for keys in the door.

  • +1

    Have you considered bikies?

    • After eneloops, they were my most obvious choice.

  • I'm sorry this happened to you, its an invasion and leaves you scared of further break-ins etc. I know been there. Also as you said you only have been there 2 months, seems someone in the neighborhood has been watching and keeping an eye on your movements, meaning the crim could be living in the same street.

    Question: Do you live near a park or back onto a school? Have you spoken to your neighbours to see if anyone in street has cameras that may show robber lurking?

    The hope is:
    Given the police should track the credit card fraud and get photo id on the robber an catch them, you may get your keys back? Obviating any change of barrels etc.

    The cheaper option is to continue to use the car but not leave anything of value within, that way only car gets nabbed not goods. Don't know what insurance would cover given the keys have been stolen take that up with insurer

    As many have said having sensors in the house is a reactive response, rather than proactive also with cats running around you'll have many false alarms. Put the dummy rotating cameras you can buy on ebay up front and back, get those dummy stickers saying premises secured by … and move on and live life again, with your new shutter type windows etc it will be a cheap deterrent measure and save huge costs

    Most ppl would say the chances of someone coming back to rob again is slim, considering you are alert and taking precautions

    Blessings

    • +1

      Thanks for the kinds words.

      Yes, going to call the police back today and hope they recognise the person. I didn't put in the OP, but the old owner - we've found out her daughter had a few run ins with the police. I believe the mum basically disowned her. So my money is on her or one of her friends.

      To be honest, considering they didn't trash the place, I reckon auto theft seems like quite a step up from burglary, so I'm half believing that they won't come back. I just wish they left the key though, haha.

      I've lodged the claim with the insurer - in checking the PDS, they do definitely state it is something they will cover (which is something I was a bit unsure about). When they call me back, I will try to get an idea if they can give a cost of what they think will need doing (whether they think the full barrel needs changing or not). From there I will decide if I want to pay for the claim or just pay to do it myself. In the meantime, hopefully we've got more news before we commit to the insurance co.

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