Hi all, got a relative (Aus PR) with Malaysia passport flying out in 2 days time, but just realised her passport expires in 6 days. Just wondering if she could still fly out of Australia on the day of travel? She's going to renew her passport in Malaysia of course before returning to Australia. I presume this is fine?
Tried calling immigration, but no chance of reaching them.
Thanks!
no problem with outbound
flight must go straight to malaysia, elsewhere will be denied entry.
I am sure it will be fine since the passport is not expired if your relative is heading to Malaysia directly and not transiting in any other country on the way. There will be a few reminders from people looking at the passport about the expiry, but I reckon that would be about it.
ok good to know. Thanks guys!
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if she is denied at the check in desk.
They wouldn’t necessarily know if she had onward flights or not. It’s the airlines problem to get you back home if you are denied entry.
She maybe going home and technically that may be fine but you’d be depending on the check in desk person to put 2 and 2 together… They are very strict on this.
I’d be telling her to get the airport extremely early so she has a chance to talk to the right people and sort something out if she needs to.
Well, she's a Malaysian with Australian PR. Surely that will be fine?
Yeah I wouldn't worry about it. Her ticket says presumably "Australian city -> Malaysian city", and her itinerary presumably doesn't show any further flights elsewhere.
No way she can't go to Malaysia when she's on a Malaysian passport, no matter how soon it's expiring, so long as it's valid when she touches down. And it's not as if it's expiring a day later so that a (spectacularly) delayed flight might cause it to no longer be valid.
She'll be fine.
They wouldn’t necessarily know if she had onward flights or not. It’s the airlines problem to get you back home if you are denied entry.
Why not? hypothetically, if those onward flights beyond Malaysia are on the same itinerary or airline, the Australian check-in desk should know.
If those onward flights are with a different airline then its not the 1st Airline's concern - she would have to face a 2nd check-in desk in Malaysia for that and face the passport problem there.
I don't see how the Australian check-in desk can assume she has onward travel with no proof.
It’s the airlines problem to get you back home if you are denied entry.
But the airline is getting her back home. Why would a Malaysian with a valid Malaysian passport be denied entry to Malaysia? Where would Malaysia send her in the hypothetical situation where Malaysia doesn't want her?
I wouldn't put it past the Malaysian immigration not allowing citizens back into the country with a nearly expired passport.
So the question is where will they send her? Australia won't take her without a valid passport. If that is an infringement which I doubt, they'll just throw her in a Malaysian jail. Path of least effort.
Nah, probably just leave them to sit on the floor in the airport before immigration.
There isn't a lot of commonsense within the government in Malaysia, you think the Australian government is hopeless and inefficient? Malaysia dials that up to 11!
Slightly off-topic, but interesting - I was told before that if you're an Australian citizen, you can enter Australia without a valid passport. As long as the authorities can verify who you are.
Logic would dictate that it will be the same for citizens of other countries.
The only time I can think of where that would happen is if you were to lose your passport between checking in and landing at your home border or if your passport expired overnight while on the plane.
Logic would dictate that it will be the same for citizens of other countries.
The world doesn't always run on logic.
yep i've done this one
We had a change in route long story but it took us out the country
had to get my passport shipped to Airport and i had to answer every question before they would give me my passport and let me through customs, so it was 30 mins of random questions of travel history. considering it was the large passport and filled it before i needed to renew it they had lots they could ask
they also have a full print out of every flight country dates it's not so bad if you have a decent memory and nothing to hide they are just doing due diligence
Should be fine if she has return flights booked. https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Ente/Goin/Arrival/Travel-Docu…
Oh wait, when she got a new Malaysia passport back home, she doesn't have to get Aus PR visa label in the passport anymore right? I believe it's all electronic now yes?
Don't need the label anymore, might be advisable to speak with Australian Consulate in Kuala Lumpur after the new passport is issued so as to update their records with her new passport number, expiry, etc.
Alternatively, she can carry her old passport with label for inspection on arrival in Sydney.
she need to fill this up, and submit as soon as she got the new passport.
https://www.border.gov.au/Forms/Documents/929.pdf
and make sure check in earlier on her way back here, as if Border hasn't updated her info, the checkin counter stuffs can help her call up immigration dept and have it sorted on the spot.
and keep a copy of her visa proof with her (e.g. visa grant letter, Vevo printout), to have her visa grant number stated.
been there, done that.
I suppose she could fill up the form online too yes? Saw an online with option to create immi account.
It's all electronic. Even if she doesn't update her details on immi website, she just needs to bring her old passport back and they will update it for her. My sister had hers updated when she checked in at the airport.
Hi,
Check out:
https://eservices.imi.gov.my/myimms/myPassport?lang=en
MyONLINE*PASPORT is a facility for Malaysian to renew their Passport through the internet.
For online application, Payment can be made by credit card or using direct debit facilities (FPX).
(Payments via FPX is stopped for maintenance until further notice.)
The issuance of passports:
Applicant can choose where to collect the passport at any of the offices listed in system.
Collection date and time will be determined by the system according to the date and time of application. It will be stated on the receipt.
This may allow your relative to get this whole process underway/done with
collection by them on a day at a location that suits them.
Gosh, Malaysian government's official site is so 20th century …still use java or something?
Have you tried to renew your Australian passport online?
(That's a trick question, the answer is "No" because you can't.)
Australia really has no leg to stand on to criticize any other government's state of technology.
How long have they been here? Normally not allowed into the country unless 6 months left on the passport ;)
like 10 years..Not worried about this, there will be new passport upon returning..
It is a Malaysian citizen, going back to Malaysia with a Malaysian passport.
You do not need 6 months left on the passport to enter your own country.
Correct, but you would have needed 6+ months to ENTER AUSTRALIA. Hence why I was asking how long they had been here.
OP says they have been here for years, so either overstayed the visa by years, or had something else in place ;)
OP clearly states the person has PR.
Please read before commenting.
@zeggie: No they didn't, not in the OP. Who reads EVERY comment. Anyhow, you guys are a bunch of cry babies. So carry on.
It doesn't really matter to the question here: They were obviously allowed into Australia, and breach of visa conditions won't prevent them from leaving.
You can still get to Manus Island with an expired passport so all good bro
"Tried calling immigration, but no chance of reaching them."
Why not? They do answer the phone, you just have to join the queue.
queues are for poor people. Asking ozbargain is the way to go!
I find OzB communities more knowledgeable, & most definitely more efficient than actual gov workers at times….
Have you tried calling immigration and the airlines.
Malaysian website states you need 6months valid passport at minimum. I am not sure if you still need this being a Malaysian citizen
http://www.imi.gov.my/index.php/en/entry-requirements-into-m…
Try getting an urgent passport which means you will pay for some additional fees but atleast will go to Malaysia
why don't you or her try calling immigration again or visiting immigration office in your city. it's really not that hard.
Everyone knows it's always hard when it comes to gov department…why don't you just don't comment?
Perhaps you can put a post up asking people what colour underpants you should wear tomorrow.
Why not..
If anything, shouldn't the OP call the Malaysian High Comm or the airline? Australian immigration certainly won't prevent you from leaving.
And i don't think Australia requires visitors to have passport with 6 months validity. Might be an issue if you are transiting in another country.
If she's going home then fine.