Been looking for a while on this price, missed a few deals but this price seems pretty good.
Breville Barista Express BES870 - $560.40 Delivered @ Betta Electrical eBay
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Good to hear. Been looking for a while and finally bit the bullet.
Yeah, I've had this machine for the last 5 years. 100% would recommend.
I got this one about 18 months ago from one of the eBay 20% off deals. Unfortunately the steamer stopped working today:(
I’m hoping I can get it fixed under statutory warranty / Australian consumer law.
It’s a great machine when it works!hope you get it fixed under the warranty.
I bought one from HN using one of the Amex deals with 5 year warranty.
If one uses the machine for even year, it would pay itself when you compare to the amount if one had to buy from barista.
I use it daily so 4*5=20/ week = 80 per month. 800 in 10 months.. So u have had it pay itself in that period.This calculations would work with any other machine as well.
(No financial advice given, just generalization :)Yeah I hope I can get it repaired as well. You’re right about saving money by making coffee at home. We’ve saved a bunch having this machine.
coffee beans are expensive though… esp if you want cafe quality.
Problem for me is I buy from barista so I can socialise with my colleagues, so now I'm drinking twice as much as I used to!
Steam wand isn't blocked? Mine was down to a small amount of steam until i took off the wand and soaked it in descaling solution.
the Steam wand wasn’t blocked. For some reason the seam was coming out through the coffee section instead of through the wand.
I’ve just tried an internal descaling from the manual (vinegar and water) and it seems to be working again. Hopefully that’s all it was!
Good price, so wife's Christmas present now sorted, been looking for a price below $650, which this usually can be found for. Cashrewards 1% cashback as well don't forget.
great husband :)
evie: she doesn't drink coffee tho…
She knows how to make it though… Buddy's a clever cookie ;)
aha smart
Bought it for around the same price a few months ago. Great machine. Make sure not to use shittoria or any other beans from colesworth or you won't get any pressure when brewing.
Aldi beans are pretty decent to start with tho.
Why would Aldi beans be decent? Where are they sourced from?
They apparently from Victoria. You get pretty decent pressure and ideal 20-25 seconds brewing time from these beans.
I tried many beans and settled on to these as my everyday coffee bean. By the way,they taste better as well. You can pick either medium or dark roast. I personally prefer the medium.Victorian coffee beans? Not sure I've ever had those at my hipster coffee joints :)
When I first got my grinder I tried the Vittoria beans just to play around with the settings as they were on special really cheap.
They jammed the grinder up on first use, and I had to disassemble the burrs and clean them out!
Every other brand of bean since has worked perfectly.
Which grinder do you have? I need one but not sure what to get.
Breville Smart Grinder Pro BCG820
Brilliant so far (about 6 months old)
Often on special on here.
ALDI beans definitely not a bad option if you're after value. Most of the time I'll go the $11/kg ALDI beans but occasionally I'll splurge and get something from Rio Coffee for more like $12/250g.
By the way just to chime in on the Barista Express—great machine, love it! I managed to get one in great nick from Cashies around 2 years ago for $200 or so. If/when it dies I'd consider getting one brand new from HN or somewhere with a good deal and good warranty service.
I've always had good results with the Colombian Supremo i think it's called from Costco. About $22 for a 1.2kg bag.
Sits back with popcorn waiting for the thousand of posters who got this machine or a better one for this price or lower with the smart grinder etc.
… with a cup of tea.
I got a display model BES920 for this price from a previous deal - 30% off $799 at DJs. Ask in store and see if you can get the same for this at Betta if you're interested.
how long ago was this?? BES920 hard to find alone at the moment.
Earlier this year, didn't realise it wasn't available. There was a deal for it a couple of months ago as well.
Best coffee machine I've ever had! A friend has the BES870 and loves it too.
Breville garbage.
This one is pretty good and not too big, old housemate had one. I was the only one who cleaned it but it's not hard to clean, you can buy the cleaning tablets cheap on eBay.
Bought this yesterday and so far so good. Definitely not a simple push button and drink machine, this thing is rather quite manual and many factors go into play when brewing a shot or 2 but when you get it right the satisfaction is as good as the taste of the coffee itself.
Is this good?
Absolutely yes!
I've had this for a few months. Can't get the coffee to taste decent. Any advice on the settings it should be on? What brand coffee beans?
Quite a few variables to get right.
- Beans - steer clear of supermarket ones. Many good coffee shops sell bags of beans that they use as well. Or there are plenty of coffee roasters around these days as well. Make sure they are freshly roasted. As indicated on the bag, within a week or two is good.
- Grind- I'm using a 3 setting for grind with my fresh beans at the moment.
- Your aim is to try and get the combo of grind and tamp pressure to get the needle during extraction to be pointed mostly straight up on the dial. Adjust things until you get that bit right.
Thank for your reply. I'm starting to think maybe mine is faulty. So on the left I put it on number 3 to Grinde the beans I assume, 'Grind amount' I put that setting the in middle of less and more. I used a double filter and set it to double filter size. The pressure needle didn't even more much, coffee still tastes bad!
Try grind size (left side of machine) 3-4. Grind amount on minimum. Use a single filter and a single filter setting (Just until you get the taste right). I use Lazumba beans from HN. And I use full cream milk. If you don’t get a ripper coffee from that, I think your machine might be one of the few dodgy ones. Good luck.
Hi Yes sorry, I meant 3 on the grind size on the left side of the machine. The Grind amount doesn't matter as much as you can add a bit more just by pushing in the portafilter to grind some more if needed.
Here is a good video that may give you some more tips about the machine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSpA8Ojp-gU
Good freshly roasted beans are key to getting good tasting coffee. You need that first before attempting to get the pressure right by dialing in grind size.
What kind of beans you use? If you bought a bag of beans from Colesworth, then you won't get any pressure. I have used many different beans from Supermarket to speciality roasts, then settled in with Aldi as the everyday coffee beans.
I always use double filter basket. Make sure you use the right one (there are 2 sets of baskets. One for freshly ground coffee and one for ground coffee)
Grind setting: 6
Grind amount: very beginning of the dial (or it will grind way too much coffee)
Tamp: Put a decent amount of pressure when tamping (use 20Kg force)I get 12 o clock on pressure dial and it goes for about 25 seconds for brewing.
@dealspider:
I used Victoria beans. I will try the ALDI ones or from a cafe on the weekend. The others suggested a Grind 3-4 not 6? Is that only for the ALDI ones?
If that doesn't work, the coffee machine is going back to Goodguys, must be faulty. The dial doesn't even move! Hopefully it's the Woolworths beans fault.@vicky88: pretty sure it is the bean. Try ALDI and set the grind size to 6. Remember to give it a good tamp before put the portafilter onto the grouphead.
@dealspider:
Just used expensive beans from Jasper, woow it actually worked, dial pointed up and made a good tasting coffee.
Thanks to everyone for the coffee making advice!@vicky88: That is great to hear. I was pretty sure it was the bean since it happened to me as well. Enjoy your coffee and of course Barista Machine ;)
cheers grabbed 3, xmas presents sorted for the family
expensive presents lol
Show off or troll. Congrats either way
Haha, nice. Maybe an attempt at comedy?
@spillmill: then maybe go for a broden amount… 3 is plausible .. lolll
How does this compare to the breville dynamic duo or duo boiler?
Dual boiler is a much better machine if you have the space for it (machine + seperate grinder)
This is a good machine on a budget and if you need a compact machine that is all in one.
aeropress much better
Great machine, had mine over 2 years now averaging about 3 coffees a day. About to put it in for it's first service as it has developed a buzzing noise when extracting.
Probably time I up my home coffee game. Purchased.
Anyone want to give a newbie some tips?
Use the double basket
- Stay away from supermarket coffee beans. Use freshly roasted beans (though I use Aldi coffee beans, they are pretty decent and $12 a kilo)
- Start from grind setting at 5-6
- set the grind amount to minimum to start with (or it will grind to much coffee that end up in the drip tray)
- Put a decent force (20Kg) when tamping
That will give you a decent espresso (double) shot
Please check this video if you want to learn how to make a decent latte
I see a few mentions of the Aldi beans, might give them a go.
Is there a particular variety to get?
There are basically 2 different roasts, Dark (red package) and Medium (Blue package). I personally like the Medium roast. You should give it a try. I mean at less than $12 a kilo it is a no brainer.
@dealspider: Definitely will!
Cool. Thanks for the reply.
Above I seen you mention that "If you bought a bag of beans from Colesworth, then you won't get any pressure."
What do you mean by this?
I bought many different brands of coffee beans from Coles & Woolworths (Colesworth). None of them got the right pressure built up in the machine which gave me really bad coffee.
I was so frustrated and started doing some research on forums such as CoffeeSnobs. Then bought freshly roasted coffee which really made the difference.
Then I read somewhere that ALDI beans are pretty decent so gave them a chance. Since then, ALDI is my go to beans for everyday coffee.
So is it basically a case of the older the bean the less pressure you can built with it?
Bought couple bags of lavazza coffee beans from Coles when they were on special. The pressure gauge is up in the middle every time.
I use N0. 4 and dual basket if it helps.
Good to know. I also used Lavazza before but had to go all the way up to "Fine". It even says on the packaging to use "Fine" setting. With ALDI beans I get correct pressure between 6-8 grind setting.
If you're thinking about it, just buy one. It really is a great machine.
I grabbed one about two years ago from JB - still going strong 2-3 coffees per day. I generally prefer coffee at home to most coffees out now, so I usually only buy a coffee when feeling lazy.
It will take you a little while to work out the grind settings and the tamper so that you get a good pressure with nice crema, but once you do it's really consistent.Tips:
- Buy a decent coffee bean! Shitty beans = shitty coffee no matter how good the machine - I pay about 35/kg
- I find the grind setting depends entirely on the bean - if the grind is too fine for the bean it tastes too much like brewed coffee, if it's too coarse then it's a much weaker flavour.
- Experiment and/or watch some basic vids on tampering so you get decent pressure on the machine - you get a much smoother flavour and crema if the water passes through at the right pressure
- When frothing milk - get a milk thermometer on ebay! Also - you're not trying to get a million bubbles into the milk, what you actually want to end up with is milk that looks like glossy paint… the way to achieve that is by letting the tip of the steam wand sit just below the surface of the milk pointed at about 4'oclock so that the milk is continually swirling. You should hear a slight frothing sound nothing aggressive. Let the milk come up to temp (thermometer). Don't pull the wand out until you've turned off the steam to keep that velvety texture.
For anyone that has this or other machines, do you recommend a seperate grinder or and integrated one like this?
Have read a number of posts about grinder getting caught, broken, having issues, etc… Just wondering if it is better to have the 2 units seperate as it seems like the grinder is the one thing that can break compared to others.
Thanks
I haven't had any issues so far. Even though this machine is considered compact it is not very small on your kitchen bench.
Yes, the dual boiler (dynamic duo) is the best if you got space and money. For most people it is an overkill tho.
Okay- thanks very much for clarifying.
Has anyone purchased from Betta via their eBay store?
Just curious on service, experiences, etc…
Thanks
Just a quick note that this one on eBay is now sating out of stock.
This one sells for about $400 at the Breville factory seconds store in Pyrmont. I bought one from them many years ago and is still running fine. Great machine!
Do they ever put any of those seconds for sale online, or is it online in that store location?
They don't have a website. You can call them to see if they have it in store. Great prices for a lot of things - usually just a dinged up box.
Dam, missed out and my Aeropress is leaking out the side this morning.
dang it!
pretty good machine