65 Years Old Woman Newstart

Hi everyone,

Just wanting to see if anyone has had similar experiences so I can be prepared for what's to come. Hubby is about to retire on an aged pension. I was working casually up until 2 years ago. I gave up as I have some injuries from a car accident many years ago that have started to make working difficult for me (relating to 4 spinal fractures which now cause pain and some numbness). I realise I will be able to go on Newstart and will need to apply for 20 jobs a month. I am worried because with my limitations ie difficult standing for long periods, difficulty walking too far, not able to lift more than 12 kgs and not able to sit for long periods, I think it will be difficult for me finding a job. I applied for a disability allowance but was not accepted. When I apply for the allowance I will be 65 years old but will not be entitled to the old age pension for six months. Employers are not going to be interested in an old lady who has such limitations. What happens if you can't find that many jobs in a fortnight to apply for that you are capable for doing?

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  • Can you get a medical certificate from your doctor for the 6 months to say that you’re only able to do xx job, they may reduce your jobs per month.

    I was studying and had to stop due to renal failure and they cancelled my youth allowance but allowed me to use a Centrelink medical certificate to fulfill my requirements. I haven’t even had to go to a job agency for it due to hospital / doctors appointments + dialysis

  • +3

    Pretty sure lifers that have no intention of finding a job, would just apply for absolutely anything; even if they knew they wouldn't get the job. Meets the criteria of applying for 20 a month. So unless you are genuinely looking for a job, and sounds like you are not, just apply for anything and everything; dont stress if you dont get a call or rejected.

  • +1

    Unfortunately, that is the nature of all this bureaucratic bullshit.

    The rules that they've set are so rigid that there's no allowance for any discretion or common sense. No human factor whatsoever.

    With your current physical limitations (assuming you've got the correct medical evidence), any regular human who looks at your circumstances will be able to see that there's no point trying to get you back to work for six months before you go on the age person.

    My suggestion would be to look how far you are off from their definition of "disabled" and either appeal the earlier decision or speak to your doctors.

    Worst case scenario, you just have to pay their game and write down 20 jobs each month for 6 months.

    • and either appeal the earlier decision

      I don't believe the decision to allow/disallow can bed appealed, may be incorrect.

      Whether you get onto disability can depend on what one doctor thinks disability is or whether you see them before or after lunch. It's pretty awful.

  • +1

    You best bet is to apply for jobs you know you have no chance of getting. Just put in your backstory/restrictions on work on your resume, and dont add any references, and you should be good.

  • +3

    I agree with the others, just find a bunch of jobs to apply for and write them down in your documentation. It is a shame that politics has got to this stupid points as it wastes time for you and the companies you apply to. My sympathy on your injuries and getting caught up in this ludicrous situation. My suggestion is to apply for as many Government jobs as you can so that, when they turn you down, it is their responsibility for not hiring you.

  • It's 20 jobs per month. Just spend a few minutes on the internet each day and apply for one job every weekday and you meet the requirement. You can apply for anything within your skill level. Unless you live in a regional location it's easy to meet and if you do live in a regional location you can get your number of jobs applied for lowered.

    A person of your age on Stream A will not have any issues for the first 12 months unemployment and by then you'll be on the age pension.

  • +2

    An alternative could be to do volunteer work within your limitations,
    if you do this at your age you do not have to look for a job…Voluntary work for job seekers 55 years & over. http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/3/2/9/130

    • I was going to say this too

  • +1

    Isn't there an app that just sends your resume to 20 job ads a month?

    • Yes there is it's called jobactive Job Seeker on Android and App Store.

      but…a modern mobile or tablet is required to use the app and waving around an expensive mobile phone whilst claiming Newstart can open one up to abuse. (sarcasm) How dare an unemployed person own a fancy mobile phone…yet a mobile is absolutely essential for getting a job.

      Best just to say you just own a very basic 3G mobile without any internet capability on a prepaid plan and can only receive calls.

  • Best bet is to doctor shop until you find a doctor that believes in chronic pain - since many of them do not and have the same attitude as most other people which is that you should just ignore it and it will go away, the disabling pain isn't there so you're fine to work! - and get sickness certificates.

  • +1

    You should be able to get a Centrelink medical certificate from your GP. If it's accepted, it will give you 3 months exemption to look for work. Then, you can get another certificate for another 3 months. If it doesn't work, you can just call random businesses and ask them if they need an employee who will most likely say no. You can then fill up that sheet with details of businesses you had called. I did a combination of the two above for a year when I quit my job due to health and it worked. Good luck.

  • Dealt with centrelink quite a bit, but its been a while (or my info could be wrong). You will be very unlikely to get the disability pension, I know people missing limbs, unable to walk (wheelchair bound etc) a lot can't get it, I also think the fact that you were just working also makes it close to impossible as they take that you "can work".

    Truth is you came off of work, most places will give you some sort of "quiz" they ask about your history, (I'm not sure if this has changed?) but if you just came out of work (among getting other things right), they should leave you alone for 3 months to allow you to get a job. Then you'll likely need to do some sort of job search (20 jobs a month) though you can just send 20 resumes to random places on gumtree if you find that easier.

    Honestly, though, they take your age into account, their KPI is based on how many people they can push into a job, if they see someone who most likely won't be able to get a job, they're more likely to not care as much as you don't help their KPI. This is a good thing, you hopefully only have to see your provider maybe 6 times.

    Worse comes to worse you can do volunteer work and I think that takes over your job search, but yeah. As far as I know its very unlikely they'll hand you a job or force you to do something you can't, if you ever get an interview I suggest being honest with them and telling them you're looking for something thats less than 12 months, no labour (under 12kg) etc.

  • If you agree to do a day or two volunteering at a charity etc, they will wave the need to apply for jobs.

    A friend is doing the same , she works at a school tuck shop

  • Get on Newstart for the 6 months: send off the required number of job applications electronically and perfunctorily- basically the same application repeated, with some copying and pasting.

    Neither Centrelink or the job agency will crack the whip because they know it's just a mandated joke you must all share in.

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