Further price drop on Pixel 32GB Models
Google Pixel 32GB $699 (Save $100)
Google Pixel 32GB $699 (Save $100) @ JB Hi-Fi
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TRENT86 on 26/10/2017 - 06:57 jbhifi.com.au (560 clicks)
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way overpriced for what it is.
Yeah was gonna say it's still too expensive. Few months back, the HTC 10 dropped to $599 just as the HTC U11 got announced. I reckon even that is too much but in the current market, a $600 phone is pretty good!
I think $499 would be more appropriate for what you are getting. For $699 you are in S7/Oppo/Xiaomi and even the latest Nokia territory.
Not bad but I can't see these phones flying off the shelves at $699
It's S8 on sale territory. Which is crazy for about to be abandoned old model. Plus Pixel2 is flopping in reviws due to some screen problems wrecking the reputation so that hurts the brand image and resale.
It's only the XL 2 that has screen issues. The non-XL version uses a Samsung screen.
Plus Pixel2 is flopping in reviws due to some screen problems wrecking the reputation so that hurts the brand image and resale.
Oh please, there has bean a few reports of faulty screens, but because it's the Pixel most flock to the internet the tarnish Google's name.
Antennagate, Bendable iPhones and Exploding Note 7's started off with a few reports too.
think $499 would be more appropriate for what you are getting
+1
You're definitely paying for the name and popularity with the Pixel.
Since when was the pixel ever popular?
Since it had Google pushing the brand. Much more likely that the guy on the street has heard of Pixel vs say a ZTE, Oppo or Xiaomi.
Don’t Xiaomi make the most popular gadgets around, including toilet seats? :) their strategy is to take over the market one toilet at a time? And one mobile phone at a time?
Still wouldn't say it's popular, the first one didn't sell well at all.
Which is why you're seeing it heavily discounted (but not heavily enough in my opinion).
Google Phones were popular (but not "Pixel").. Nexus 4 when they were selling for $400 compared to it's twin the LG G2 and the S4's Flagships at twice the price for similar specs. Sold like hotcakes then because of price. Google definitely wont sell anymore at those prices.
Not name or popularity - only tech enthusiasts know they exist. You're paying for the rock-solid software, the best-in-class camera, and the longer period of software updates.
I agree it's still too expensive - but Google had a bit of a conflict on their hands with this product. If they price it too expensive, people will disregard it and go for a cheaper device. If they price it too cheap, people will think it's junk and not competitive with other flagships. finding the middle ground was hard.
Also don't want to compete against vendors. The aim is to promote Android and show what it is capable of in streamlining/maximising software and showcasing the newest developments (i.e. VR, assistant, camera tech).
This was similar to MS's dilemma/strategy for the Surface line. You want to nudge the market to develop something sexy and powerful but don't want to annoy the companies that give you business by stealing market share from them.
For cameras there are direct comparisons with iPhone and Samsung and the Pixel is sometimes more contrasty but very arguable that it is "better". The LG phones have excellent cameras - such a pity about the QC issues.
Too expensive but it still has a headphone jack. There are great Motos, Oppos, Samsung and Sony with better specs and released later available. While I love the fact that it will have updates for longer I think just updating my phone more often will achieve the same.
Google did have sweet spot with the Nexus pricing and they could just bring it to that level again but they won't as they wan't premium pricing for premium models
As others have said you are paying for the lack of bloatware and pure Android experience. Personally I think that is worth a significant margin more compared to a Galaxy/Sony etc.
The funny thing is that it's not really "pure Android" - it's AOSP + Google Pixel stuff on top, stuff that isn't in "pure" android.
Actually I really love pure android as my current phone is a Nexus 5. Unfortunately it's > 2 yrs old and it will die probably sometime next year. It's got a single crack in the screen (replaced screen twice already). Mainly I'd like a Google Pixel with 64 GB or better these days at this price point. As I can get last years flagships (i.e S7 Edge, Motorola) at similar or better prices I would think that Google would want to clear the Pixel 1 stock quickly to make way for Pixel 2 and it's even higher pricing.
Although I won't have 'pure' Android anymore I'll look at HTC, Motorola and SONY as they're 'decent' at updates. Avoid Samsung as they take forever to get them out and don't always update all the models consistently. I do like OnePlus but price point is very high. Wish they had something in line with the old Nexus pricing.
I can understand why the Pixel will never be accepted here, which is a shame because it is an exceptional phone, but most users on this site just cannot see past it's price (because at the end of the day, cheaper = better, right?), especially when they are other phones with similar specs being posted for a quarter of the price.
Personally, I'm going to finally pull the trigger and get one, I've been waiting quite a while for a decent price drop (since release), and collecting discounted gift cards will make it a worthwhile upgrade.
I am similarly interested in the XL if I can get a similar discount. Great phones - pricey but I'm willing to stretch for pure google
I on the other hand can't understand why anyone wants pure Google. Even their web UI for storing contacts is buggy. A lot of their software is.
And you're wondering why people on a bargain hunting site are price sensitive???
fair enough - I've never had any trouble with any of my android phones from a software perspective - only ever hardware trouble. I like Android a lot and enjoy being able to use the latest version.
You speak of issues with Android contacts - wouldn't that be the same issue for any android phone?
Yep Google contacts are a problem on any phone. It's their web interface and accounts.
But some other examples of shocking experiences with Google software in general:
On the phone:
- I used Google Maps to take me home yesterday, using voice. Only I had "paused"/turned off location settings on the account recently. So it took me to some place called Home - I think it was display homes. I tried to set my home location and got an error about being unable to update the home location. No indication of why. I had to remember what I'd done to fix it.There is a long standing bug with setting the ringtone for a group in your contacts. Doesn't take, and no fix in sight for years - Bug has survived multiple versions of Android.
https://androidforums.com/threads/problem-with-custom-contac…
https://www.androidauthority.com/community/threads/blu-life-…If the media app crashes and cache or data is corrupt, photos and other files don't appear or appear as size 0 on the phone for transfer. So you can transfer a folder, then delete it only to discover some of the photos were corrupt or not transferred.
Again multiple phones, multiple versions of Android. There are apps for regenerating the storage index after deleting it from apps. They tend to be specific to the major version of Android for which they were released. Some apps create lots of little files which means I have found reindexing can take over an hour if you include everything on a phone rather than just images.
For this reason alone the last version of android I liked was Kitkat where you could actually take the SD card offline and access it directly.Ringtones lost if media app storage cleared. Have to go back and set them on each contact. Pain in the butt. Likewise if the ringtone was on SD card and the SD card is removed, you have to set them again. (I keep mine on internal storage).
Why on Earth don't ringtone prefs sync to the cloud for the given device!?
I'm in no rush to upgrade my Android. The icing on the cake is manufacturers release security updates slowly and painfully. Google may be best at that but it is no where near good. As I said the last version of Android that wasn't a pain for me was Kitkat, then Google supposedly got security conscious (if you believe that take a look at the amount of data they collect in the history on your account). Now you get punished if you root as you gain the ability to do some things and you lose others, and moving your apps to SD card has never been more painful (when it's supported).
On the Desktop another bug:
- Gave up on Google Picasa face indexing after the 3rd time I spent recognising faces and it crashed and lost everything. Of course Picasa is no more…a very Google thing to do.Yep. Typical Ozbargain. I don't like what you wrote, so I don't care if it's true, I'll just neg.
Having used phones from HTC and Samsung for years, and messed about Cyanogen and other aftermarket ROMs, moving to pure Android and a Nexus device has been pure bliss. I'd much prefer to have solid, reliable hardware, and miss out on a few buggy bells and whistles that Samsung provides, along with the inevitable slowdown that occurs after 6 months.
I on the other hand can't understand why anyone wants pure Google. Even their web UI for storing contacts is buggy. A lot of their software is.
I only use Gmail via Chrome on my PC and everything else via their apps on my phone, and while I'm sure the web versions of all of their services would probably run better on Chromebooks etc, I find them pretty good.
And you're wondering why people on a bargain hunting site are price sensitive???
The sensitivity level is too high among some users though, I am all for a bargain and getting the best price, but I'll still spend money where I see value, and the Pixel has a lot to offer where others simply fall short.
There is MUCH better value out there!
I have an LG G4 as my daily driver which I will use until it dies. I don't love it but it has decent sound and a good camera and isn't painfully slow most of the time. I use a lot of apps including astronomy stuff that relies on magnetometer and GPS. I use the bluetooth a bit, but would say I'm only an occasional user of NFC. I don't use the fingerprint scanner at all.
What different features are you looking for exactly? Lack of a headphone jack lest it get filled with fluff? What is it exactly that you do with your phone? What do you think my LG G4 can't do (aside from not guarantee an eventual bootloop or failure of WIFI/bluetooth), that the Pixel 2 can? What software can't I run that you think is important to a lot of people?
What different features are you looking for exactly?
-Android untouched
-Latest updates
-Rear fingerprint reader
-Good camera
-5" screen
-NFC
-Nice designPixel ticks all of these boxes and then some, don't really care about it having a jack for headphones as I rarely use it anyway.
do you think my LG G4 can do (asside from not guarantee an eventual bootloop or failure of WIFI/bluetooth), that the Pixel 2 can?
Not really, it's older/unreliable hardware.
What software can't I run that you think is important to a lot of people?
That comes down to personal preference and what you use your phone for, I for one am tied into the Google ecosystem therefore it is a no-brainer.
I have a rear finger print reader, a good camera, a 5.5 inch screen, NFC already in the LG G4, which is how old now?
(Design is subjective. I'm not thrilled with the G4 and part of the reason is the rear power button and volume buttons + finger print reader, which it sounds like you'd like.)
Oh and I do care about my headphone jack as should anyone who wishes to continue to have access to older hardware and DRM free output.
Older no. Unreliable is specific to a particular model. S7 was catching on fire when it was new.
So we're down to Android untouched and latest updates. Most users just get use to their phone no matter the interface. But if you like you can also download close to stock alternatives for various parts of the interface like the contacts.
I'm also tied to Google - calendar, contacts, drive are some of my most used apps. I don't have any trouble using them on this phone or on my older Galaxy S4 for that matter!
You might as well have said "I'm a Google Fanboy" because the rest of your arguments fall apart.
I have a rear finger print reader, a good camera, a 5.5 inch screen, NFC already in the LG G4, which is how old now?
That's great, I never said they were all exclusive features of the Pixel, but it has all of them combined, plus more.
Older no. Unreliable is specific to a particular model. S7 was catching on fire when it was new.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by this, as you originally asked (or stated) if/that the LG could do the same as the Pixel, and sure I guess it could, but for how long, and how well?
So we're down to Android untouched and latest updates. Most users just get use to their phone no matter the interface. But if you like you can also download close to stock alternatives for various parts of the interface like the contacts.
It's more than just a basic interface though, you simply can't compare the two, use one and you'll know what I mean.
It's an experience more than anything, my current phone (Nexus 5X) has been excellent as it contains all of the features I listed above, and being a Google phone used by developers at Google, it does the job well, and I feel the Pixel is a continuum of that.
You might as well have said "I'm a Google Fanboy" because the rest of your arguments fall apart.
I wouldn't consider myself one, but I know what I want, and an alternative just won't do the job for me, as much as it may do the job for others.
The LG G4 is a pretty good phone. I don't like the rear buttons because they're finicky and hard to use when driving. its big downfall reliability wise that I was referring to was the boot loop. You might not have your phone at any moment. I carry my old phone along with it.
I've been using droids and the ADK for ages and I have phones that are pretty close to stock, and also used Samsung Touchwiz, LG's interface and so on, so I have some idea what the differences are.
The Pixel just doesn't have much in the way of distinguishing features and if you want anything but the up to date OS you're better off spending less elsewhere. There are absolutely phones out there that will provide most of the same feature set and even some features the Pixel won't. Clearly you prefer Pixel, so that's what you'd buy. It's a personal choice. But that doesn't make it the best value, or the most feature rich.
The Pixel just doesn't have much in the way of distinguishing features and if you want anything but the up to date OS you're better off spending less elsewhere.
Perhaps, but there is no disagreeing that it does what it does very well, and I just can't substitute that for anything else, but feel free to provide details on these other phones.
But that doesn't make it the best value, or the most feature rich.
I never said it provided the best value or features for everybody, but most just don't like it because of it's price, which like I said I totally understand because we're on a website about bargains.
I see worth in spending extra on things I use every day, because not everything has to be cheaper.
Dude the Pixel isn't magic. Lots of phones do things well. You haven't shown me anything extra to spend on. I am not aware of anything distinguishing it from other cheaper phones other than the Google brand and probability of OS update coming to a Google phone first first.
If you want to overspend on a phone, it's your money. This isn't the only phone people do this with.
I am not aware of anything distinguishing it from other cheaper phones other than the Google brand and probability of OS update coming to a Google phone first first.
That's unfortunate, I wish you all the best with your current smartphone.
If you want to overspend on a phone, it's your money. This isn't the only phone people do this with.
Thanks for stating the obvious, I will continue to live my life without caring what other people on the internet think of my purchases.
Spewing! I just bought this last week.
Hmmmm…this or the S8. Not really in a need for a fancy stylish phone.
Wonder if this will get cheaper or not.
Damn, no stock within 200km and no free shipping :(
Checked at my local Castle Towers and they had a dozen white Pixels 32gb in stock. No XLs of any colour either. No negotiation.
Once upon a time I would have jumped on this deal.