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This is a great deal for beautiful camera like this. Only grey imports were available at this price but because of this 20% deal we can buy it from Australian store. Thanks TheGoodGuys EBay! Cheers
Olympus OM-D EM 10 Mark II Mirrorless Camera at $640 @ The Good Guys eBay
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Why these lenses?
Just good value for money options that are sharp, fast, and small. Rmb the body is small so big lenses will be awkward.
What about the Panasonic 25mm 1.4?
@ca6leguy: it is double the price of the lenses I recommended up there. If you have the cash, sure. or even better, 25mm f1.2 Olympus PRO. drools
Would you recommend this for beginners getting into photography?
Yeap!
Probably the 20mm more than 25mm for two reason:
- It is more similar to a smart phone camera's field of view (i.e. how wide or zoomed in it looks) - as for myself who moved from smartphone photography was a bit taken aback by how 'confined' I felt initially… and
- it's smaller, making it more likely for you to bring your camera out with youit's cons is that it's slower to focus in low light compared to other lenses. it's acceptable - just not as quick.
Also correction; its f1.7 not f1.8 and doesn't cost more than $350 (or less if you go with grey imports or second hand - they're fine!)
Cool - thanks for the insight
@lawyerz: yeah, definitely seems that way. Still haven't made my first purchase - can't for the life of me decide whether to get a dslr or mirrorless…
@justjack: I can help you there :P
The biggest three difference between DSLR and mirrorless are as follows:
1) This has a micro 4/3 sensor, which means that the sensor is about 1/4 the size of a 'full-frame' camera. Note a full frame camera is also at least 3x the costs new. This affects how much background blur you get and how much noise you get in low light. (note the only mirrorless full frame is sony at the moment but Nikon is said to be developing one - and full frame at that - now - they've already patented two mirrorless lens).2) Mirrorless has (with the exception of the latest $5300 Nikon D850) totally silent shutter option. e.g. not a single sound when snapping photos. like your smartphone. More handy than you might think.
3) Lastly, focusing using the LCD screen. DSLR require you to put your eye to the viewfinder - and their live view is really, really, really sucky and slow at focusing. Mirrorless focuses heaps faster while using the LCD screen to take your shot but cannot compete with DSLR for fast moving photography (with exception of the $2000 Olympus EM1 Mark 2)
I'd go with mirrorless as my first camera. DSLR just seems to antiquated in comparison. I will most definitely buy a full frame mirrrorless made by Nikon when it comes out goodness knows when.
@lawyerz: Any cheaper lens for this camera to get that beautiful "bokeh" for portrait? I am aware of 50mm M.Zuiko but it is bit expensive ($300+) at the moment. TIA
@jt14: $300 is really cheap for a lens haha… but in terms for bokeh, portrait, and value for money - nothing beats the 45mm f1.8 lens. stellar lens. It's pretty telephoto at 90mm equivalent but I absolutely adore this lens.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/45mm%20f1.8
note its not that handy for everyday shooting, though. so your 25mm lens (50mm equivalent) might be better value overall. I'm assuming thats what you meant when you said 50mm as I'm not aware of any 50mm (100mm equivalent) lenses by Olympus.
@justjack: no worries mate.
DSLR has some benefits as well, they're generally cheaper than mirrorless.
They have better lens ranges and cheaper too as some third party compatibility with brands like tamron and sigma.
Their sensor is an APS-C (just what they call a particular size of sensor) sensor - which is larger than this micro 4/3 sensor - which helps with low light and shallow depth of field (by a little bit anyway - the difference is not big)The grip on this camera is very small - so if you put any larger lenses on this camera body, it's going to be rather off-balance.
welcome to the world of cameras, everything is a trade off - by the laws of physics most of the time.
Don't forget, this one has the 5-Axis stabilization, essentially the best image stabilization around.
@jt14: 45mm f/1.8 is crazy good, and incredibly cheap as far as camera lenses go. Micro Four Thirds lenses are pretty common on Gumtree etc so it's not difficult to find something for much less.
Yes I'd go mirrorless as they are so flexible.
Either this deal's camera, or for the same price you can get the EM5 Mkii secondhand on sites like Gumtree. Both about the same size, with the EM5 Mkii offering better features.
@jt14: As a few others have mentioned, the Olympus 45mm F1.8 is great for head and shoulder portraits.
100% recommend for getting started. I have the slightly bigger brother the E-M5ii and only bought it over the E-M10ii because I got an amazing 2nd hand deal. People go on about the smaller sensor and less megapixels, but I went from a Canon DSLR to this and it's a million times better for me because I can now take the camera everywhere with me! I have a bunch of lenses but tend to keep the 20mm f/1.7 on it most of the time, it's tiny and the image quality is fantastic (plus it's cheap, even moreso 2nd hand). Be warned, this is an expensive hobby!
Yes I jumped into with the EM5 Mkii as well. Also did second hand and haven't looked back.
Am selling mine now as I've just bought the EM1 Mkii and the Oly 40-150 pro lens.
I have the Pana 20mm and while it's good it is also bloody slow to focus. I suspect the Oly is better but haven't tried it. The panasonic lens is essentially the same one that was release with the GF1 back in 2009. the update a few years ago was cosmetic only as far as im aware.
Nah the version II fixes the slow focusing issue BUT apparently came at the price of sharpness. Still hunts in low light apparently but I've seen reviews they did really well in video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGLUTzGK3j0 <— his videos are pretty good.
I don't have this lens unfortunately so I can't speak from first hand experience.
Sooo what's wrong with the lens that comes with the camera?
actually at that price I didn't even click through, I just assumed it was for the body only. The lens it comes with it will be fine starting out!
I take it that it won't be long before i'll be looking for an upgrade then
@justjack: that's quite subjective actually. I feel like the gear doesn't necessary help you take better shots unless it is actively failing you and you know specifically why you want an upgrade.
E.g. if you want better background blur, or if you find its not sharp enough, etc.
the zoom it comes with is incredibly versatile in a very small package. I've never used it so I can't speak from experience.
This is brilliant value! With just this body and lens, you are already set for some great photographic adventures.
Note that there is a special lens cover available that automatically opens when you turn the camera on.
The JPEG files straight out of the camera are fine too.
One of the best aspects of the EM10 Mark II is that it suits "point and shoot" photographers, as well as those who want full control over everything.
Just as an interesting note, you can actually control the electronic zoom lens from the 4-way buttons on the back of the camera.
Also, the 2-year Australian warranty on these is even transferrable to the next owner, if you decide to sell it later. But you'll need to give them a copy of the original receipt.
Final point: all the Panasonic lenses also work with this camera body too.Is this the same camera + lens, but in black? Might save someone $20 (or $~5 if postage is required) if they done mind the colour:
https://www.digidirect.com.au/cameras/cscmirrorless_cameras/…
nope this is the Mark 1 version - basically one generation behind.
Note that there is a Mark 3 version of this camera that is brand new if that bothers you. OMD EM10 Mark 3.
The big benefit of the Mark 3 is the 4k video ability. And I've heard the Mark 3 is actually missing a couple of the features of the Mark 2. But the key point of this deal is the price. It's a lot of camera for $640!
This it Sony A6500?
Do you mean this OR the Sony A6500? I'd say they're aimed at slightly different people. The A6500 is more than double the price, and because the Sony sensor is APS-C sized it's larger than what Micro Four-Thirds camera have, this tends to result in lenses that are bigger. So if you're trying to keep everything compact that might be a factor.
The numbering system is weird. The OM-D EM 1 is actually better than the EM 10.
oh yeah the camera world seems to be like this. the smaller the number -> the better it is.
Must be because the better the camera, the smaller one's bank account is after buying it! ^_^
Last comment from me on this: I just found out that the tiny Olympus FL-LM3 Flash for E-M5 Mark II also works on this camera!
Hi any recommendations accessories? Like memory card or simple bag or pouch?
I bought SanDisk SDHC UHC-3 Class 10 card recently - 32GB, Speed: 80MB/s (I believe it's reading one)
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SanDisk-Ultra-32-GB-32G-SD-SDHC-…
Good price. I recommend pairing with the Panasonic pancake lens 20mm f1.8 or Olympus 25mm f1.8 :)