For instance, I would like to copy, say 10gb, from my NBN modem and transfer it to a special sim memory card for use when I'm away from home.
I feel it could be a "car that runs on water" thing. You know, where the technology's there but the powers that be have too much to lose by letting us have one.
If anyone out there is working on one, I be interested to know.
Lon
Questions that come to mind:
Would you have to be connected to a tower?
Could you just tap into the intelligence in the ether from the middle of the Sahara?
Would Google be able to track you?
Is this question outside of the forum guidelines?
Would It Be Possible to Produce a Sim Card That Could Store Cellular Data?
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"That's not how data / internet works…"
People said that to Gallieo and that's why I put the question out there. My inclination is that everything is possible if someone can believe in it sufficiently.o_O
Hi Lon Chaney,
I sufficiently believe you can fly. please find the tallest building and show me that it is possible.
regards
altomic
My inclination is that everything is possible if someone can believe in it sufficiently.
You are nuts.
Your question misunderstands the basics of how cellular networks operate. The SIM card effectively authenticate you to the network, the network then decides what data you can download based on the billing and rating system (your 'plan'). It is possible to store a small amount of data on a SIM card, but you need to get it from somewhere.
A network could easily allocate you a plan of unlimited, but they are a business that wants to make money, so tend to offer limited plans.
Your other questions:
Would you have to be connected to a tower?
Yes, if you wish to use cellular data, otherwise maybe satellite?
Could you just tap into the intelligence in the ether from the middle of the Sahara?
Not unless there is a nearby cellular network, or you have a costly satphone, assuming the 'ether' means the Internet.
Would Google be able to track you?
You can take steps to prevent Google tracking you irrelevant to the network connection.
Is this question outside of the forum guidelines?
This question is loopy.
Not unless there is a nearby cellular network, or you have a costly satphone, assuming the 'ether' means the Internet.
Maybe they're getting confused with ethernet..
Even though SIM cards are now made in larger sizes, including up to 1 gigabyte, most phones still come with a 32- or 64-kilobyte card installed. If a user wants a larger SIM card, he or she will have to buy it after-market. However, it is important to note that upgrading to a larger SIM card only increases the space available for saving contacts and SMS messages. If users want to have more space for saving photographs, music, applications, or other programs, they need to purchase a microSD card or other data storage. A 64-kilobyte SIM card allows users to store up to 250 contacts and 80 MNCs.
i dont thank thats what the OP means though.
I have no idea what you are asking. Please rephrase the question. What does this mean: "I would like to copy, say 10gb, from my NBN modem and transfer it to a special sim memory card for use when I'm away from home."
I suspect this may be difficult to get a grip on because the concept is pretty much futuristic. But is the idea feasible, is what I'm saying? And what would have to change to make it happen?
Where is Steve Jobs when we need him?
LonSorry but I am struggling to get a grip on your question still. I don't know what you are asking.
The data you use on the NBN is not cellular data - it comes through cables under the ground and has a different pricing structure to cellular data. Are you alluding to the idea of some kind of a data share plan between your mobile phone and your NBN? That does not exist unfortunately.
Yes, but all the data starts off at the same place, it's just distributed differently. I'm thinking along the lines of converging the two or even, better still, starting again.
I suppose we could just mentally tune in as we do with our present thought set-up, but we want to get the exact information we require and not just whatever thought waves happen to be passing at the time.@Lon Chaney: Data is not a finite resource. It's a cost which your ISP (cellular, cable, satellite, etc) passes on to you to pay for the use of the transfer of the data. Have a read of this document.
You don't pay for the data, just the use of the distribution system.
You cannot get data without using a distribution system.
The NBN you have at home is limited to your residence. You cannot move it.
I 'think' he is asking about a way to 'transport' his allocated data in a portable way. Say for example he has a 300gb per month NBN plan, is there a way to put some of that allocation on a portable device for use when not at home? So you could take 100gb to use when you go away on holidays or whatever. The only way I know of would be some kind of quota sharing plan where your internet and phone/devices would be with the one company and you could share the data allowance between them?
I think….?
So what exactly is it you are trying to do? Why not store 10GB on a micro SD card?
Because it's cellular data.
And where does this "cellular" data come from? The NBN? You think "cellular" data can be stored and used later? Shades of Jen from IT Crowd thinking the Internet was inside a box.
I haven't seen that show but, yes, I guess it's along those lines. I mean, why let them have all the fun? We've got a right to think outside the box or even the world, for that matter.
Sounds a bit like Telstra Air?
The idea of this concept has been bugging me for some time, and now, after getting input from this forum, I'm beginning to think it's not such a sensible thing to bother dwelling on.
I'm going to go back and think about how cheese is made. Something like Cheddar. Not the Luna variety.Slow day in the troll cave?
I think Lon is the new Ken M
Would it be possible to produce a cup that could store water?
For instance, I would like to copy, say 100 litres, from my kitchen tap and transfer it to a special pocket size cup for use when I'm away from home.
I feel it could be a "car that runs on water" thing. You know, where the technology's there but the powers that be have too much to lose by letting us have one.
If anyone out there is working on one, I be interested to know.
The problem with your scenario, is that, you are dealing with an analogue quantification. There is a completely different set of physics involved cybernetics.
What I am asking is a bit over-the-top because I'm trying to merge analogue consciousness with cyber consciousness and as we are transitioning from the analogue now I suspect this subject will be soon be irrelevant.
So you want 10gb data from NBN to be used on a sim card instead?
Well this isn't actually impossible for companies to do, all it is, is sharing data between the two. Take 10gb out of NBN allowances, put 10gb into mobile data. OR make it shared and whatever you use from the mobile, it uses your monthly home internet allowance.Although the thing is. mobile data and internet data are not the same. Mobile data is always more expensive than regular home internet data. I'm not exactly why, maybe its because its mobile and uses towers and home internet is more available?
Thank you Wombat.
It was your comment that finally unlocked my ability to understand what the hell Lon was on about.
If we are correct, he is actually asking if he can transfer a portion of his home internet data allowance to his mobile???
I guess it would be possible - especially if your home internet and mobile were through the same provider. I don't see why it would require some special storage SIM, though. All you'd need to do is ask your provider to transfer the allowance.
However, mobile data is generally more expensive so you'd need to factor that in…Wouldn't need any storage or any (copy and paste data) from what OP was stating, but it could be possible but very unlikely for any providers to do this, especially since indeed mobile data is more expensive.
Now you have to take credit for a highly logical answer to a rather nebulous question. But, it's still logical. Analogical. Still, it's good to see some thinking going on in a shopping web portal. Normally, price does all our thinking for us.
Do not feed the troll.
I think you just did. Thanks I was feeling a bit peckish.
WTF?
ISP's just provide you an IP address to access data on the internet, and give you a path to the internet.
Data caps are just artificial limits to prevent excessive stress on their network, and to make more money. They aren't a tangible thing. A data cap is just an ISP monitoring how much traffic on their network is from you, and cut you off when you hit their imposed limit.Either is a troll post or you are just completely clueless on what any of the terminologies you have used actually means.
I can vaguely figure out that you would like to take 10 Gigabytes out of your home internet allowance and allocate that to be used either on a Mobile Broadband SIM Card (Which works Globally) or even via. Satellite (with 100% earth coverage), presumably at no extra charge to what you are currently paying for your home internet?
Either is a troll post or you are just completely clueless
If you check the OP's details you would understand from location and other posts, that the latter is more likely to be true
I'm seventy and have been riding for fifty plus…
You are asking some basic questions then you confuse everyone with various partial "solutions" that you assume should work. e.g. download 10Gb from your NBN on sim card
You are really asking why cant you just buy the data you want and access it anywhere you like. (be it NBN, ADSL, Cellular etc)
Technically there is no reason this cannot be achieved.
Like you already know you have to have devices to do this. At home In your case this is provided by a landline, while mobile its via Cellular or wifi.
Part of this portabilty is available now, Telstra does this with "Telstra Air" where wireless hotspots are free if you have a Telstra account.
So the technology is there. And even more easily accessible than cars being able to run on water (conspiracies ignored)
However like many things, money is to be made out of the current set up, by different people.
Likewise why do we, if we own 3 cars (or 1 car 1 Bike etc) have to pay CTP insurance on each car when we can only drive one at a time. (Assuming others dont drive it)
We are already seeing that mobile access prices are dropping, for $20 a month you can have unlimited mobile calling, whereas for $30 a home phone gives you no free calls, so maybe that time isn't far off.
Telstra provides the part solution, but this comes at a cost. Providing the complete solution is also possible, but again at a cost. If the Telcos can make a buck by charging individual prices rather than a package deal, they probably will. Likewise unless they see a market they wont do this.
So yes all possible, but will they do this at a price you are willing to pay.
The poster doesn't have the foggiest idea about how telecom networks operate. The questions in context are bonkers. Don't waste people's time!
you cant copy data to use it later.
you mean have the use of your NBN data allowance while you are mobile.
If thats the case then Telstra already has it, Telstra Air lets you use wifi while you are out and about without using your Mobile Phone data, it gets taken off your home broadband allowance.
What did I just read?…
That's not how data / internet works…