Hi Guys i need a suggestion, i need get rid off my orrible Sagemcom Optus Fst 3864ac Nbn Wifi Modem from Optus, because i don't have strong signal in my house. I've got thick double brick home and in one part of the room i put the extender and working fine, but in my front of property (15mt) i don't have reception ( i've got a wifi doorbell) and from Optus gave me this modem router the signal dropping, and sometimes i don't have signal.
Which modem router you suggest strong signal through double brick? $300 is my budget for the router.
Thanks in advance
Modem Router around $300 Very Strong Signal for Thick Double Brick Home
puglix on 15/09/2017 - 14:49
Last edited 15/09/2017 - 14:57
Last edited 15/09/2017 - 14:57
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i mean thick, my house has a layer of brick, gap(5CM), another layer of brick and a layer of gyprock, every part of the room are like that. Do you still considerate double brick?
Yes, that's double brick.
Internal walls wouldn't normally be double brick, though, just single brick?
Correct.
Can I laugh now? So funny
I try
Good on ya John :)
You could consider instead internet through powerlines - sending the signal to a more desirable central point in the house to then host your wifi router rather than trying to send a signal from the front to the back of the house.
Also consider repositioning where you place your router and extender - along a hallway maybe where there is less bricks? Potentially put it in the roof if it's an open cavity.
Already putted in the centre of the house, what else you can suggest?
Then you can try upgrading your router - I use an Asus RT-AC68U but I've a brick veneer so I don't know how good it would be with brick (but definitely better than what you have at the moment).
Alternative is getting more extenders and placing them closer together. Or like i mention, get a series of internet through powerline adapters, each with a wifi extender or connecting devices directly with cables.
good idea thanks
i have same router and I have double brick
i still use Powerline for the second floor and also use a Xiaomi Repeater 2 (costs like $8 AUD lol) for my security cameras.
So even with a good router, they still broadcast plain-ol' wifi at a certain strength which can easily be blocked by solid objects (radio waves do bounce off hard objects, so proper positioning is key).
You can also increase the TX power which means the router will broadcast it's signals further (with some downsides)…. but your laptop or mobile phone can't send the data back if it's out of reach anyway. It'll be as if the router is shouting, everyone can hear it, but the router won't hear anything back if the devices can't shout loud enough.
Ive had nothing but drop-outs with my Powerline adapaters. Gone back to wifi.
What type of NBN do you have, FTTP, FTTN, HFC etc? Some tyes of NBN require a VDSL compatible unit and other do not.
i don't have NBN, i have Optus cable Speed Pack, gave new modem( for the coax cable) and Sagemcom Optus Fst 3864ac ( for the cable)
I lived in a stone townhouse once and there's just no hope. Needed two access points in the end.
got my netgear r8500 on clearance for $299 from officeworks
Any modem/router sold in au should comply with acma. They shouldn't exceed the permitted mw.
Yes but that doesn't mean all have the same power output.
Yes but that doesn't mean all have the same power output.
it would be doubtful that a consumer grade router that complies with acma power output requirements will penetrate a double brick wall.
2.4ghz will easy.
+1 for Asus RT-AC68U for around $220, plug into existing modem
or Asus DSL-AC68U for the version with built in DSL modem $280There's a whitelabeled one of amazon for around $120AUD
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/327856
Look for a mesh solution. Google Do one, and so do Ubiquiti.
you could also try google wifi to get decent coverage.
Are you in a dense area?
Yes, but the signal close to router is always strong
Grab a program for your computer or phone and check if the channel your AP is on is congested or not.
You haven't said what frequency you are using, which makes a difference. There are a bunch of protocols advertised on these things, but they basically fall into two groups - those that work on 2.4GHz, or 5GHz. The higher frequency offers higher speeds over shorter distance. The lower frequencies travel better over distance and thorough objects. I see that the 3864ac supports both.
I have the Asus DSL-AC68U, and I think it's a great wifi router. I find in my house, which is a non brick long narrow affair, I get a good reception at about 22m between about 6 walls, which includes a kitchen and an ensuite, on the 2.4GHz range.
I would suggest checking if you are currently only using the ac 5GHz network, which might account for the crappy signal, and maybe try changing it to enable 2.4GHz. It's either that, or it's really just a shitty router. But your better to try before buying something. And if you do buy, the ac68u is really good.
Exactly what I was going to say.
I have a house with multiple brick internal walls. I have an AC68U as well. Under 5Ghz mode, forget it. But under 2.4Ghz it will go through 4x brick walls from one end of the house to the other, and cover both floors of the house (upstairs floor is wood). No extenders needed.
House is a long typical inner city terrace house.
WiFi extenders - https://www.lifewire.com/best-wifi-extenders-4043312
I have the Netgear one that just plugs into a wall, it extends quite far. I have picked up connections a couple of blocks away with mine.
Go for Orbi router (https://www.netgear.com/orbi/). I had the exact same problem with 2 storey house - speed & coverage is exceptional, comes with a satellite you place in an area that has low signal.
Go for Orbi router (https://www.netgear.com/orbi/)
an orbi rbk30 router + extender kit is >$400.
op may as well get two xiaomi mi wifi 3 router for ~$40 ea. install them back-to-back.
https://www.cnx-software.com/2016/04/11/xiaomi-mi-wifi-3-ac1…
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/325387xiaomi routers don't do seamless handoff though. Only certian networking equipment comes with that feature.
xiaomi routers don't do seamless handoff though.
does op need seamless roaming? how many times does op work back and forward between the double brick wall while transferring a big file?
I use Netgear 8000 in an high rise apt.
Internal walls is concrete.
Router located in living room.Poor reception in bedroom which is L shape away from router.
Location C D E in mapTry this iOS app to measure how bad wifi reception is.
Example map:
https://imgur.com/gallery/gDqwNTelstra Home Dashboard
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/telstra-home-dashboard/id878…I've got a situation similar to yours. Have a large double-brick home & Optus internet with the crappy sagecom modem/router they give you. Its rubbish!
Replaced it with a Netgear D7000 which is great - 3x the signal strength throughout the house. This model might be superceded now, but any top of the line Netgear with antennas will do the trick. The Asus ppl are suggesting is good too.Keep in mind that Optus lock the internet service to your MAC address, so you'll need to change the MAC address of your new router to the one your Optus Sagecom has (its on the bottom of the modem, looks like AB:CD:EF:GH:IJ:KL etc. Most good routers (Netgear/Asus) allow you to change its MAC address). If you also have a VOIP service via the Sagecom, doing this may break the VOIP service though, just calling that out.
Thanks for the hint dimitryp
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@dimitryp Sorry but I dont believe any of that is true. Firstly Optus lock the service to your home or phone line. Not to a device. However a device can be locked to a service to stop you using it elsewhere (eg prepaid phones) Secondly MAC is a unique address for a device just like a serial number. Hence it cannot be changed as far as I know. Maybe you are getting confused with IP address. Yes, thats locked to the customer's internet service but its also issued by the internet provider.
@amazysingone I think where the confusion is is that you're assuming im on ADSL - i'm actually on NBN, there's no phone-line to speak of. For NBN they lock the service to the MAC of the router they provide you with. And yes, you can change the MAC of quality modems such as Netgear ones through their menu, it's specifically for situations such as this where you need to masquerade as another device. I have done this, so am not imagining it. I'm an IT engineer so not talking out of my arse here.
Any chance the Sagem modem is faulty. Even if its just crappy the first thing to do is to complain to Optus as they supplied the modem in the first place. And you should ask for a refund for the time you could not use the internet. Its really thier problem. Why make it your problem???
Agree John Kimble?A bit out of left field, but worthwhile considering if you have any MacBooks or other apple devices in the house, is an Aiport Time capsule (or extreme just for the wireless). Not a modem so you'd need to bridge or create a second subnet.
Have a 3 bedroom double Brick house, router in the rear family room which is separated from front of house by a double brick wall, but with a doorway nearby. Always had issues with wireless reception in front bedrooms until replacing with the Apple router. Just tested in front bedroom farthest point (12-15m) and gets a Speedtest of 30mbps up and down (nbn fibre). Drops back to 2.4G, but still good throughput.
Previous had non AC dlink, Netgear and billion routers, but had to install an additional access point in the bedroom wardrobe to get reliable coverage in the front bedrooms. Have been able to turn off this access point now. Kids have MacBooks for school, so as a bonus does automated time capsule backups I don't have to worry about. Only issue is rather simplistic parental controls. Can get them cheaper from apples refurbished site, 2GB cheaper, currently only showing 3GB (Mac accessories). Bare extreme is $299 retail, time capsules better value if you have a use ($479 refurbished 3TB).
Please don't flame me, just adding as a consideration in case it's a valid use case, solved my double brick reception issues.
Did you mean "thick double brick home"? What's the difference between a "double brick home" and a "thick double brick home"?
Are the bricks exceptionally thick?