What Will It Take to Stop Torrenting?

iamw0man on 30/08/2017 - 10:55
Last edited 30/08/2017 - 11:15 by 1 other user

Hi OzB,

Some of you may have noticed that Netflix Oz is providing the latest Rick & Morty season to us this year 1 week behind the US schedule. Despite the delay, I've found that this has been enough to stop me torrenting episodes and have been looking forward to a new each ep every week, who knows, maybe I'll visit a Video Ezy next! Of course, I'm still torrenting GoT and any delay wouldn't cut it for that kind of show.

With ISPs cracking down, I'd be interested to know if others are doing the same and what it would actually take for us all to cease being a nation of pirates.

Poll Options

  • 50
    I'll never stop & I don't care about stealing
  • 12
    I pay for my content and don't torrent
  • 5
    I'd stop if Netflix, Stan, etc provided content in < 1wk
  • 21
    I'd stop if Netflix, Stan, etc provided content in < 24hrs
  • 1
    I'd stop if I could pay the DVD boxset price for online access to watch each episode as released
  • 3
    I'd stop if paid tv (Foxtel) provided content less than 24 hours after release
  • 26
    Arrrgh mehearty!
Entertainment

Comments

  • scrambledeggs on 30/08/2017 - 11:04
    +16

    Nice try, entertainment industry, but you'll have to do better than that in order for me to confess.

  • Axelstrife on 30/08/2017 - 11:16
    +5

    Looking at the experience Foxtel customers got when trying to watch Game of thrones why the hell would people stop?
    They struggled to watch it with buffering or straight out couldn't watch it while i had a 1080p version downloaded and read to watch.

    Sorry but DNS blocking a few Torrent sites isn't stopping no one and certainly isn't "cracking down"

    • barbarella on 30/08/2017 - 11:26
      +1

      I had no problems watching GoT on Foxtel Now and I am streaming it through a cheap little mobile broadband device (no NBN here).
      Maybe your buffering etc problems are due to your ISP??

      • Axelstrife on 30/08/2017 - 11:33

        Not me i wouldn't give then a cent for there shitty service.
        My NBN 100/40 would go to waste watching there crap.
        http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/foxtel-now-…

        This was the the final episode of Game of thrones.

        • indium on 30/08/2017 - 12:44
          +1

          A few people may have had issues and suddenly it's a news article trying to tarnish foxtel by the people who own stan. Don't believe everything you read, I was able to stream every episode at 11am without any issues.

        • Axelstrife on 30/08/2017 - 12:47
          +1

          @phew: Theres also what happened when Episode 1 of season 7 started i think no one could watch at all or something.

          Rather stick with something that works.

        • indium on 30/08/2017 - 12:51

          @Axelstrife: These issues were only for people trying to stream it at 8:30 live, the earlier viewing at 11am never had issues and from week 2 onwards you could watch the episode on demand after the 11am episode aired.

        • Axelstrife on 30/08/2017 - 12:52

          @phew: Shouldn't be any issues at all they knew how popular GOT is.

        • kiitos on 31/08/2017 - 13:23

          @phew:

          This week's final episode also had problems on Monday, but not as bad as ep 1.

        • MrBear on 31/08/2017 - 15:55

          Perhaps you could put some of that extra money you have towards spelling and grammar lessons…

        • Axelstrife on 31/08/2017 - 16:00

          @MrBear: Extra money? Damn comedian you are.

  • [Deactivated] on 30/08/2017 - 11:21
    +14

    one service that offers all channels and shows at the same time as the rest of the world for $10 a month that works on any device, it's the dream

    • Zaenille on 30/08/2017 - 12:29
      +4

      One service to rule them all, one service to find them.
      One service to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

      • shortblack9 on 31/08/2017 - 09:18

        Sounds like a cinema

    • AlienC on 30/08/2017 - 14:59

      Convenience and simplicity at its finest would make me even consider watching some shows.. jumping through the hoops to just find that one tv series or movie that you wanted can be a major headache.

    • iamw0man on 30/08/2017 - 15:08
      +2

      Do you think any service that did this could be trusted to not increase the price and stream their own agendas as soon as it had a market monopoly?

  • Diji1 on 30/08/2017 - 11:32
    -1

    An entertainment industry organisation has just announced it's going to start suing Australian's for amounts of $500 - $2000 dollars. Because obviously making a copy of a film you can see for 30 bucks tops costs them $500, it's so obvious.

    Just waiting for Australia to follow the USA's example and put counter terrorist law enforcement assets into fighting for Hollywood. Before you laugh look it up: Department of Homeland Security is engaged in fighting piracy.

    • R-Man on 30/08/2017 - 14:03
      +2

      Could you link me to details about the $500 - $2000 fines?

  • singlemalt72 on 30/08/2017 - 11:33

    Is that you Michael Eisner?

  • altomic on 30/08/2017 - 11:37

    Bikies?

  • cypher67 on 30/08/2017 - 11:44
    +14

    Torrents are cheap, convenient and easy. I'll stop when I don't have to subscribe to 23 different service providers to watch the shows I want to watch.

    • Zaenille on 30/08/2017 - 11:53
      +2

      Exactly. It's stupid how you have to subscribe to a new provider every time you want to watch something legally that your current provider doesn't show.

      • Beanvee on 30/08/2017 - 13:31
        +1

        It's quite annoying, you'd think the complaint of having to subscribe to a TV whole package to get the few channels you want would have been done away with streaming.
        Now you have to subscribe to a dozen services to get the few shows you want.

    • R-Man on 30/08/2017 - 14:07

      I'm with ya on this. Preferably a service with decent apps. From my free trials (thx ozb) I have found both Netflix and Stan to be both convenient and strong performing apps on TV, Android and Web. Stan particularly had really good technical support, I got response and incident raised all after 8pm one night and resolved the next day.

      Meanwhile, foxtel now or foxtel go whatever is trash.

    • iamw0man on 30/08/2017 - 15:06

      We want a competitive market though? Not giving someone a monopoly is the best way to achieve that. I must admit that something like Spotify is convenient but are we doing ourselves a disservice by wanting one channel (and therefore, one provider) for everything?

  • Gronk on 30/08/2017 - 13:34
    +3

    LuLz, yup, because Torrenting is the one and only way to obtain copywritten material for free…

  • [Deactivated] on 30/08/2017 - 13:59

    Ease of access from a single platform.

    Spotify solved this for music imo.

    Steam somewhat solves this; though in my opinion, games are priced way too high.

    Netflix US somewhat solves this; though there really is no AU equiv. This explains Australias massive piracy rate. It is not about money.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 30/08/2017 - 14:11
    +5

    Maybe just maybe dont try and stop it? make all the content free and make money off advertising…

    You cannot stop it so join them make it pointless to download and make all content free (like Youtube) and hit people up with ads.

    The only thing that people pay for is 'live sport' because streaming it sucks 80% of the time everything else is simply a waste of money

    Music can make all its money from live concerts and advertising too

    I dont understand this idea of 'your stealing' from big business what is stealing?

    Politicians taking a 2k a week pension is legal but id argue it is stealing? as is misusing tax payer money for helicopter rides etc

    I'd say businesses making millions and millions of dollars profits but pay there employees minimal wages and take away/reduce there penalty rates on weekends is stealing? though it is legal?

    Once upon a time people paid huge $$$ for albums, renting/Buying movies etc (Hello Blockbusters and Sanity) they had huge mark ups and once the monopoly ended they cried poor? was the 450% mark up on a Album stealing?

    Bankers post GFC?

    CBA scandal after Scandal no one has been thrown in jail or even fined? stealing?

    I dont believe americans can complain about torrenting considering not one company pays the tax it should be paying in Australia, is that stealing?

    This whole country was owned by the 1st aboriginal/TS islanders people and instead of 'paying for it' they took there children away…. that is way worse then stealing it was stealing/murder/child abuse? - there is a similar story of genocide when the native Americans..

    So tell me is it stealing when you steal from thieves?

    • iamw0man on 30/08/2017 - 15:02
      +2

      I agree with your sentiment, I don't feel guilty at all for torrenting but by all definitions it is still stealing. The false equivocation of your other examples don't make that any less true.

  • thord on 30/08/2017 - 14:40

    I pay for Netflix. The other things I do on my computer are my business.

    I pay for netflix because it's a great service, and I love their UI and UE.

  • bobbified on 30/08/2017 - 14:48
    +2

    When there isn't a series of hoops to jump over just to watch something!
    Or when I'm not paying $150 for something that I can see everyone else overseas getting for just $10.

    • iamw0man on 30/08/2017 - 15:03
      +1

      This is a good point. Paying for it is one thing but paying extra for digital content that costs nothing more to distribute here is a big turn off.

      Edit to add: Though if the govt keeps pushing ahead with online GST, that may no longer be the case.

  • EightImmortals on 30/08/2017 - 14:51

    What's the point of paying for a streaming service when my NBN slows to a crawl after dinner time anyway? I'm on 50/20 and max I have ever gotten in about 34Mbps….during the daytime when all the kids are at school and peeps are at work. At night time it's way too slow. That's one hurdle, the other being as others here have said, one service to rule them all.

  • avgbowlofpho on 30/08/2017 - 17:20

    The only stop to torrenting is if the production company themselves actually distributing it for free, but this is highly unlikely. If they were free the quality would be rubbish, let the people who pay; just pay.

    • EightImmortals on 30/08/2017 - 18:21

      "If they were free the quality would be rubbish…."

      I take it you haven't seen Adywan's Empire Strike Back?

      I know what you mean though, but on the other hand if things were free we'd likely like great content/stories with a lower production quality as opposed to the very slick and well-produced crap we currently get…with a few notable exceptions of course. :)

  • furys12 on 31/08/2017 - 09:10
    +1

    it's probably worth noting that ISPs aren't cracking down on anything they are following the shitty laws and they are getting paid to do it

    anyway it'll never stop but it'll get to music piracy low when the entertainment industry stops thinking there's any reason not to release a thing at the same time globally, stop relying on ads and stop thinking every one has $10-$15 a month to throw at 10 services, people don't want to replace spending $100 (conservative) a month on cable/foxtel/whatever with 10 different services which each have 1 show they want, they want a few services each with the staples who make their own content to differentiate them or something along those lines

  • BRYCELICIOUS on 13/09/2017 - 09:29

    I really only torrent GoT and Ink Master. Everything else is on SBS or Netflix. Although I do wish Netflix AU had an even bigger catalogue. There is so many Drama shows and not many mindless 20-minute-ep Comedies.

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