I was wondering if I could walk from nearby train station to T1 international. Things seem to have been some changed since opal card came along. I will be getting into Central Train station and was hoping do it cheaper than the evil $17 for 10 minutes that is charged for central to Airport station.
Can I walk from Wolli Creek and not get charged $17?
Cheers
Sydney International Airport
suchis on 21/08/2017 - 19:58
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Ah bus 400, poor memory.
There's a bus that goes to the airport. No extra hidden surcharge.
https://transportnsw.info/routes/details#/sydney-buses-netwo…
From Burwood its about 45 mins if there's no major traffic delays.
TIL. Always used 400 to hop around from Kenso to Kingsford but never knew it went to airport. Thanks, will be using this service more frequently in the future.
400 goes nearly everywhere.
Get off train at mascot station and catch route 400 bus to airport.
Yes, from Wolly Creek is a nice 15 mins walk through the park, I have done many times even with a heavy suitcase.
Sounds like a good way to get a bit of excercise before the 26 hour flight. Cheers.
I did a bit of costings and Central station to Wolli Creek is less than $3. From Central to international $16+.
I used to just buy an opal card for $10 at 7-11 and then travel to Domestic station as Opal lets you go into negative. then you can throw away the card.
but the true ozbargain way is to use the card prior and have the minimum balance (somthing like 3.46) and then use it
google is your friend
Opal card loophole costs NSW government $1.3 million in lost revenue
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/opal-card-loophole-costs-nsw-gover…
These kind of news on when this so called transport minister guy in response always claim a way opal system is always lost in revenue. but never saying how much profit they rip off daily commuters.
have my own experience sometimes no tap on or off reader properly incur myself in full fare charge when you in a rush. You call opal up they won't do a shit cos it is your own fault. happen in bus more often but train large gate reader also can occur. have seen enough people around me have this problem as well. I still prefer the old paper weekly ticket and charge us per trip really sucks.
I seriously have no problem we take most out of the system as the opal system to me is pretty much have so many trap to exploit daily commuters so much out of it anyway. Not that we have a option to choose different payment system but we just stuck with it. not mention we seen so much more ticket checkers than in the past everywhere so sure they collect reasonable revenues there.
Is there anyway to do this when traveling from Airport?
buy two $10 card from 7-11 before you leave ;)
One for the trip there and one for the trip back!
You can only do it on the way there, not on the way back.
The gates at the airport stations require the Opal card to have sufficient credit to cover the access fee (and maybe the minimum fare). Since the access fee is greater than $10, then it does not work.
As mentioned above, get off train at mascot station and catch route 400 bus to airport.
The bus ride from Mascot to the airport will only cost you 15 cents ($2.15, less $22 transfer rebate)$22 transfer rebate? That seems big.
Are you saying people can make money doing transport transfer?
looks like bsmkg pushed '2' twice, grossly inflating the actual transfer rebate and creating unnecessary confusion amongst macquarie bank extortion-dodgers
there goes the chance to make easy money :P
If you're going to International Airport then walk from Wolli Creek as suggested above, or..
If coming from the city, go to Mascot train station and then catch the 400 (20 minutes) as suggested above
If coming from the south line (blue line), Banksia train station might be a bit quicker than catching it from Mascot. Then catch the 400 from Banksia to International airport.Another option would be Wolli creek to Uber for around $10 in no traffic
to Uber for around $10
A new suburb? :)
But for a few bucks more and less time you could just get off the train at International.
Well the deedis done. The 'train master' I enquired from said to use the opal card with lest $ and throw away after I have tapped off.
Forgot about going back so I may walk to Wolli Creek (30 mins via google) and at $2+ instead of $16.20 to Central.
Saving $14 is fine… 0.8% of flight!!!
I've never understood why a contract was ever agreed whereby anyone travelling to and from the airport has to pay an access fee, and for so much money!
But now that it has why isn't the access fee rolled into the flight ticket price, the amount being dependent on the overall ticket price.
The access fee payable to/from Mascot station is already paid for by the state government so an alternative means of collecting it wouldn't be new.
Because not everybody transiting the airport uses the train. A levy from the flight ticket would be unfair to people going by car, or taking a taxi or bus, or a hotel shuttle. And transit passengers. And probably illegal as it has nothing to do with the flight.
For the history you have to go back to the 2000 Olympics and how the state government paid for the two stations.
I agree that not everyone uses the train but if more did then one would expect to see a reduction in traffic flow at the airport, which would benefit everyone. I don't agree that by rolling an access fee into the airfare is unfair to those who don't use the train or that it would be illegal to levy one. Flight costs are made up of several factors, of which airport fees is one, which are passed onto the traveler.
Surely you're not saying that, for instance, if $2 were added to a domestic flight and, lets say, $20 to a long haul flight it would stop people from flying. In reality the airlines would probably swallow the costs if their business was to suffer, and take it out of the exorbitant costs of their flights (a simple exercise for you - choose a flight from London to Sydney - look at Lastminute.com, pick a date and an airline and convert the cost to AUD. Then go to Lastminute.com.au and choose a flight Sydney to London, same date, same airline and see what price you come up with. Then drop your jaw with the difference; it was around 40% more expensive SYD-LON when I last checked, so could someone explain why that is??).One would have assumed that if a city put itself up for being considered as a venue for the Olympic Games the costs for providing the infrastructure would have been worked out first and not been based that others would have to keep making up any deficit!
I see you are an armchair expert. As it is the trains are fairly packed. Also they stop running some weekends for track maintenance. Your tax would be inequitable for a myriad of reasons above and here, however much you try to deny this and thus very unlikely to win favour. It's not an airport access fee, it's a train station access fee. It's not out of line with what it costs to get to many airports in the world.
Ah, you're the type of blinkered Aussie that accepts that being ripped off is acceptable, unlike others who have posted on this subject, for the 'benefit' of living in the, so called, 'lucky country'.
Clearly you think that it's acceptable that a traveler must pay, as you put it, an (horrendous) station access fee to go around 2km on a train. Despite what YOU say I know of no other country that charges an extra for specifically using an airport train station. that is outside of Australia of course! Nor do I recall any airport charging me to use a baggage trolley - $4 isn't it in Sydney?
I've stayed in Mascot and what you say about your trains is crap - you should get out and check your facts before putting something into writing.
You would do well working as an Australian politician.
@cockneylondoner: So you suggest hitting people who don't take the train with a tax to pay for people who take the train? Your career as a politician would be very short, that's the reality. Haven't you noticed that the clamour these days is about fairness and transparency? When you come up with a workable suggestion feel free to bring it up again. If you want to fix road congestion, try a congestion tax, rather than robbing Peter Airplane to pay Paul Train. Try to address my criticism of your proposal instead of descending to ad hominem.
In the meantime, you have exceeded my attention span for people with unrealistic proposals. The situation is far from ideal, privatising public assets, but the history is what it is. In the meantime you should look at your own country first for egregious examples of privatisation. Good luck with your country.
Yes, you got a better, fairer, method. There is a station access fee for Mascot station which is paid for by your government, so every tax payer pays!! Do you think Meriton would have built there if the residents had to pay a station access fee?
If your government hadn't 'cocked up' in the first place then there wouldn't have been any train station access fees - as it stands every tax payer that uses the train airport stations are slugged twice, once for contributing to paying the access fees to other stations along that line plus an extra for using the airport stations?You really shouldn't make comments about your politicians. How many PM's have you had over the last ten years, and for what reasons they've departed, for example. I doubt that it has anything to do with 'fairness and transparency' until they are found out, and not even then!!
And you shouldn't make comments about what happens in other countries or about a subject that you know absolutely nothing about.
I am waiting for the day when I arrive in Australia and seeing a notice reading 'Welcome to Australia. You will need large nostrils here because you'll be paying through the nose for everything'
The airport station surcharge was there before the Opal card came along. I've walked from Mascot Station to Domestic but not tried Wolli Creek to International. What I have done is catch the 300 bus either in the direction of Bondi or Burwood and switch to train.