New Desktop Build for Video Editing ($2000-$2500)

astrotrain on 25/07/2017 - 14:04
Last edited 25/07/2017 - 14:28 by 1 other user

Hi guys in the market to upgrade my trusty 8 year old desktop PC to something with a bit more grunt for video editing mainly in Adobe Premiere and After Effects if I ever get around to learning it.

Primary purpose will be video/graphic design software (photoshop, ilustrator, indesign) but wouldn't mind if I had a video card in there that allowed for a bit of gaming as well. Not expect 4k 60fps but if I could get games looking good in 1080p I'd be happy.

Could probably stretch to $2500 if there were compelling reasons. Basically just looking for the box, already have a monitor and peripherals (all of which need upgrading).

I know its easy to put together myself but would prefer to get someone like MSY or Umart to put together even a pre-built machine if it suits? Only thing is most machines are built for gaming and am not sure what I need specifically for video.

Any help most welcome thanks OzB!

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  • scrimshaw on 25/07/2017 - 14:15
    +6

    Primary purpose will be video/graphic design software (photoshop, ilustrator, indesign)

    Threadripper might be what you're interested in
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/3197184/components-processors…

    It's a monstrous 12 core / or 16 core CPU that will land sometime next month, or in September. You could probably afford a Threadripper system with your 2-grand budget, although the pricing in the USA suggests that it's $800 USD for the 12 core variant and that probably translates to AUD $1000 for the CPU alone in australia.

    For something a little more tame I'd go with
    Ryzen 7 processor, (1700 or 1700x)
    ga-ab350m-gaming 3
    16GB of DDR4 3200mhz RAM (make sure it's a brand thats listed in the motherboard QVL list, otherwise compatibility problems)
    GTX 1060 or GTX 1070
    NVME SSD (Samsung Pro series)
    any combination of HDD you want, I personally roll with WD Reds 4TB but you can also try WD Blues.
    Phanteks Enthoo Evolv case
    Antec Edge gold rated Power supply or an EVGA SuperNOVA equivalent with modular cabling

  • EightImmortals on 25/07/2017 - 15:04
    +3

    I've built a few for a video business (but not for a few years now) make sure you get a good strong PSU, plenty of RAM (especially these days when it's all HD footage), a decent GPU that will do some of the processing/rendering. Basically whatever your budget allows for…but don't skimp on the PSU.

    • cwongtech on 03/08/2017 - 12:50
      +1

      don't skimp on the PSU

      Fo.. Shaw! ;)
      Never skimp on the PSU.

  • Kangal on 25/07/2017 - 17:59
    +1

    For the kind of purpose, you'd want good hardware.
    At the low-end:
    AMD R5-1600 or Intel i7-7700K
    RX 470 or GTX 1060

    At the mid-range:
    AMD R7-1700 or Intel i7-6900K
    RX 580 or GTX 1070

    At the high-end:
    AMD Threadripper or Intel i9-7900X
    Radeon Vega (FE) or GTX Titan XP

    Also, see scrimshaw's post above.

  • JimmyJohnson on 25/07/2017 - 19:17
    +1

    Regarding the build, I got a new PC built a couple months back and also heard countless times I should build it myself, ended up just paying umart west ryde and it was ready to pick up the day after ordering my parts in-store, they upgraded my PSU after the original failed when they first installed it, upgraded my MOBO as the one I was originally getting wasn't in stock, and were also happy to use the GPU I supplied since I got it from amazon on a good deal.

  • astrotrain on 25/07/2017 - 20:50

    Hey thanks for everybodies feedback so far I'm just looking on https://au.pcpartpicker.com and have put together the following build based on scrimshaws advice just to get an idea of my costs:

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor $419.00
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $179
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $209
    Storage: Samsung - 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $175
    Storage: Western Digital - Red 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $124
    Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card $649
    Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV MicroATX Mini Tower Case $179
    Power Supply: Antec - TruePower Classic 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $128
    Total: $2062

    a couple of quesries:

    — I couldnt find the suggested MOBO so please advise if there something i should be considering.

    — With the video card there are 15 different versions of the gtx 1070 how do i know which one to choose? is it all dependent on compatibility with mobo?

    — do i need cpu cooler? if so suggestions?

    — another dumb question do i need a wired/wireless network adapter or do they come as part of the mobo?

    Still need to add on Windows OS and maybe optical drive. So any oversights please let me know thanks.

    • garetz on 25/07/2017 - 21:43

      Looking good, except im not a fan of antec power supplies, of the 3 ive had they have all had issues. Sure thats a small sample size, but went corsair never had a problem.

      The main difference on the gtx 1070 is the cooling options, and warranty. I usually stick to evga with 2-3 fans.

    • scrimshaw on 25/07/2017 - 22:45
      +1

      some things are cheaper on eBay. Be sure to check out Futu on ebay and see if you can utilize ebay codes. But you'll end up having to build it yourself, since Futu won't build.

      • For memory, be sure to check the PDF file for a list of memory that is supported by your AMD motherboard. Maybe you want to make sure you pick up a G.SKILL 16GB 2Rx8 F4-3200C16Q-64GVK so you can run at 3200mhz.

      • Yes, the motherboard has WIFI built in.

      • CPU cooler is included. You get a AMD Wraith Spire cooler which is actually pretty decent.

      • For graphics card, the brand doesn't matter. Just buy whatever is cheap… all that differs is the card sizes (some are short, some are long) and cooler design. under the hood, it's all the same GPU and they might have different clocks, but generally speaking, for Mini ITX builds you should buy a smaller card so that you can fit in easily into the case.

      Just so you know, you've chosen a Mini ITX case, but an mATX motherboard. I would go with the mATX version of the motherboard and then also adding in a wifi card.

    • KitchenSink on 26/07/2017 - 00:14

      Still need to add on Windows OS and maybe optical drive.

      Refurbish your old PC for parts into your new PC like an Optical drive and hard drives, or even the case if you want to save more.

      You can still re-use the same Windows Licence on your new PC to save a bit of money too. If your old PC is running Windows 10, its linked to your Microsoft account. Just reactivate the licence on your new PC with your Microsoft account.

      If your old PC is running Windows 7/8 you can "upgrade" to Windows 10 using Assistive technologies. I would suggest you do this before you get your PC parts to save a lot of time later on. Once you have installed Windows 10 to your old PC, link the licence to your MS account. Then on your new PC, install a fresh copy of Windows 10 from an USB drive from an ISO file and reactivate the licence using your MS account.

  • astrotrain on 01/08/2017 - 22:34

    Hi guys thanks for all replies have been overseas for the last week, just got back and am ready to pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone that knows a company that can build this for me? Dont really have the time or inclination to go and set this all up myself. Living around Parramatta area i see MSY and MWave are in the area. Have read some not so great reviews about MSYs warranty/returns policys. Anyone else out there i could use?

    • scrimshaw on 01/08/2017 - 22:39
      +2

      MSY's price is usually cheaper than most other shops, but UMART is a great place to buy from. There are several branches in Sydney.

      Mwave is alright. Their staff isn't exactly super friendly, but they have the biggest selection of things to choose from. If you want exotic computer cases for example, Mwave has them.

      • astrotrain on 02/08/2017 - 12:42

        Thanks Scrimshaw. I have jumped onto Umart site and have made this build as close to the one you recommended:

        CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8-Core Socket AM4 3.0GHz CPU Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler = $425
        Mobo: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-D3H AM4 motherboard = $128.00
        RAM: G.Skill 16G (2x8G) F4-3200C16D-16GVKB PC4-25600 / DDR4 3200 Mhz = $214.50 (not sure about this soo many to choose from? let me know if incorrect)
        Graphics:Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Windforce Gaming 8GB Video Card = $629
        Storage 1:Samsung 960 EVO 500 M.2 SSD = $319
        Storage 2: Western Digital WD 2TB Red Pro WD2002FFSX = $199
        PSU: eVGA 120-G1-0650-XR SuperNova 650W G1 80+ Gold High Efficiency = $129
        Software: Windows 10 = $139
        Case: Cant find any Phanteks brand can you recommend any on Umart site?
        Build: $95
        Total: $2267.50

        So need to add on a case. Also is the SSD ok or do i need to bump that up to the pro. Might need to add in an optical drive just in case?

        Anything else i have overlooks please let me know thanks again!

        • scrimshaw on 02/08/2017 - 12:51
          +1

          Change the WD REd Pro to the cheaper WD Red variant, the WD20EFRX. It should only cost you $125 or less.

          Change the motherboard to a Gigabyte AB350 GAMING 3, a Full-sized ATX board. You will have more expansion ports. May not be in stock though

          The Coolermaster Mastercase series is pretty well reviewed but I don't think it's in stock.

          You could try the Fractal Design Define S instead

          SSD is fine and you don't need anything else.

        • astrotrain on 02/08/2017 - 21:12

          @scrimshaw:

          Sorry for all the back n forth just want to make sure before i drop 2.5k on a build!

          updated build UMART:

          CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8-Core Socket AM4 3.0GHz CPU Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler = $425
          Mobo: Mobo: Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING-3 AM4 motherboard = $165
          RAM: G.Skill 16G (2x8G) F4-3200C16D-16GVKB PC4-25600 / DDR4 3200 Mhz = $215
          Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Windforce Gaming 8GB Video Card = $629
          Storage 1: Samsung 960 EVO 500 M.2 SSD = $319
          Storage 2: Western Digital RED WD20EFRX RED NAS- 2TB/INTELLIPOWER/DDR2/3.5 = $125
          PSU: eVGA 120-G1-0650-XR SuperNova 650W G1 80+ Gold High Efficiency = $129
          Case: Fractal Design Define S Mid Tower Window Edition Black = $139
          Software: Windows 10 Home = $139
          Build: $95
          Total: $2380

          So just to triple confirm with this build:
          — i dont need wireless adapter? does it come as part of mobo?
          — dont need cpu cooler?
          — no optical drives fit in this case so will have to look at an external down the track
          — as i have a little bit of budget left is it worth bumping the SSD up to the Samsung 960 Pro Series 512GB M.2 SSD for an extra $90? Or just save the money for a monitor in a few months!?

          Anything else? Thanks again

        • scrimshaw on 02/08/2017 - 22:32
          +2

          @astrotrain:

          You have a CPU cooler. It's the Wraith Spire and it's included. The stock cooler is pretty decent.

          Wireless adapter isn't necessary if you have (long enough) ethernet cable, but if you want to go wireless I would try the Archer T9E, otherwise you could also use a Powerline adapter. This site explains what Powerline is

          Optical drives have gone the way of the dodo — when was the last time you used your computer's DVD drive?

          As for the Evo Pro upgrade, I don't recommend it unless you're really into high bitrate video editing (say 4K). Otherwise the 3,200MBps speeds on the 960 EVO should be plenty enough.

        • astrotrain on 03/08/2017 - 10:50

          @scrimshaw:

          Might pick up the Archer T9E as Im not sure if ill always have ethernet connection.

          Haha true re: optical drive i just have a lot of files on backed up DVD i need to retrieve. Will save it for later date.

          Cheers ill hold off on the Evo upgrade and wait for an OzB deal to get a second SSD.

          Awesome thanks again for all your help will let you know how it goes!

  • ellave on 02/08/2017 - 16:06

    If you got the majority of those parts on amazon you would probably save a few hundred bucks. The cpu for instance is $375 delivered, the cheapest EVGA 1070 is $570 landed

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