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Was looking for an RX 580 8GB in Australia but couldn't find one that was less than $400 delivered then saw this mentioned in a comment by stanndog: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/4877520/
[Backorder] Sapphire RX 580 Pulse 8GB EU 222.28 (~AU $327.09) Delivered @ Amazon France
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Which is why I put [Backorder] in the title..
You should have put [Temporairement en rupture de stock] to make it clearer.
Should be rated R - Not to be sold to miners
Kids will be kids…
Indian mynahs?
Oh man, I laughed hard on this one! :D
Nice find.
Except unless I'm blind, that doesn't even have the GTX 970 in it?
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It is missing the RX570 8gb though which should rank higher than the 1060 3gb
That's why I missed it as I was expecting it to be in its own ranking. Cheers 👍
Just to confirm, this is an approximate equivalent to the GTX 1060?
Yes
I have both. To answer your question:
For mining purposes, they are quite similar.
For gaming, the RX580 is better than the GTX 1060.It depends on the title.
Don't get too caught up into "future-proofing" or FineWine, you will regret it like many before you.Why?
Consensus is that AMD cards get better with time, but Nvidia cards get worse. Let's do a case study!The new 28nm lithography was hitting mainstream in 2012, with that the GTX 680 was released in March 2012.
The comparable AMD HD7970 was released in January 2012.
Upon release some titles the AMD was better, and some Nvidia was better.
Overall, the Nvidia had more wins and it did that whilst using less electricity, less heat, and less noise. Not to mention, the Nvidia cards were running stock speeds and had headroom to overclock whereas the AMD cards were pretty much overclocked from the factory and had very little headroom to gain.Fast forward in time, Nvidia pretty much rebranded the GTX 680 as the GTX 770, then discontinued support in early 2014.
However, AMD rebranded/boosted the HD7970 to the GHz-Edition and bumped memory to 3GB's. They rebranded the same card again to the R9 280X. Since then AMD has slowly been releasing driver support/enhancements, the last major one being the ReLive Crimson drivers… which saw a great improvement for DX12 Polaris cards (RX480, RX470). Also good improvement for DX11 GCN1.2 cards (R9 390x/R9 290x, R9 390/R9 290). And maybe a hair improvement to the R9 280X/HD7970GHz/ HD 7970.So based on the logic of AMD's "Fine Wine" technology a:
- R9 280X should easily defeat the GTX 680
- and even an early 2012 HD7970 should outperform a GTX 770 from mid-2013However what we see TODAY is that all FOUR cards aren't good when it comes to DX12, and they all perform better on DX11.
And that there is a small but noticeable performance and efficiency difference from the lowest HD7970 to the highest R9 280X.
Whilst the GTX 680 is virtually identical to the GTX 770.
Yet the GTX 680 is still better than the HD7970 on many titles, and even beats the R9 280x too. Assuming both cards have the equivalent 2GB/3GB/4GB GDDR5 RAM.
So Nvidia cards "don't go to poo" as soon as you buy it…. they just have well-polished drivers from the get-go.
AMD cards are usually more powerful than Nvidia cards on paper, yet they aren't as efficient or as polished.
By polished-drivers I'm talking about actual games, not synthetic benchmarks.
However AMD makes up for these short comings by overclocking their cards from factory, lower prices, and FreeSync technology.So at the end of the day; everything depends on which title, settings, and Direct3D API you choose.
The performance difference from the RX 470 (4GB) to the RX 580 (8GB) is small enough to confuse people about where the GTX 1060 lies.+1
"finewine" doesn't exist. It is only because AMD has used the same/similar architecture meaning new drivers are still good for older cards. Nvidia uses new architecture making it harder to keep increasing performance for older cards.
580 is better for gaming particularly Vulkan. 1060 6GB is more comparable to the 480. It really depends on the game though and 1060 6GB is a great card for DX11.
All the hype to get into crypto when the smart money is probably rushing for the door.
i've seen two miners offloading their cards to the second hand market this week. one sale of 40 cards and another of 18 cards.
hello OCAU member.
Any clue approx when these orders get fulfilled? Also what's warranty like for Sapphire - particularly international warranty?
good price but I'm not sure how long that wait will be.
With the drop in Etherium prices, I'd say we'll see better price son GPU's. This looks to pretty much be on point with the R9 290x (aside from having more RAM)
can anyone tell me if i can cancel this item once ordered. I'd like to see what date I receive from amazon but if it's months would prefer to cancel.
Yeah you can. You don't get charged till it's shipped.
honestly id give it a week or two and GTX 480/580s will be dumped on the used market for half this price. btc/eth just crashed and people are gonna wanna jump out
much risk in buying these?
could recover mind you and prices could go the other way.. what a strange world we live in where tech doesn't constantly fall in price!
- You mean RX, not GTX.
- Yep, you're right about them being dumped on the market, but it's not just because the price tanked. It would have happened within a month anyway, because the mining difficulty has been doubling every month as well.
Dirty miner here, definitely get your cards in the next month(approx) many are hitting the market and getting restocked(Wait for retails to drop back down in price please), most people that try keep ontop of crypto happenings knew this was going to happen and ETH would plateau out after a drop, then it will see a rise again followed by a much larger drop compared to this.
Honestly, the biggest worry on long-term miners minds is when etherum swaps protocol. This could happen in a year, or tomorrow, but its inevitable.
If you're a small time miner and you've just read this and felt sorrow come over you, look into long term investment in top 50 coins that are quantum-proof (like iota).(1st of august will most likely be as low as eth will go this time)
You can also like, shock, horror, mine other things, though at the moment it looks like Nvidia is the better bet for more flexibility.
Dirty miner here as well (down-scaled 2 weeks ago).
I try to keep coin investments separate from mining.
Mining is about payments in AUD / day.Do you mine on Claymore? I got some BTC in my wallet, but how do you withdraw them into AUD (cash).
is there any risk in buying used Mining cards?
Have they been treated OK, or being on 24/7 for months on end tend to cause issues?
Also where do they drop them? Ebay? I am guessing you cant return them if you get a faulty one.
@mavis30551: Honestly at this stage, you have to be prepared to dump some serious money into a quite professional setup if you want to start using specialty cards and I would only suggest you try if you really wanted - If you had free/green energy.. Even then with the free energy and hardware depreciation that is hard to explain to the taxman.. With your new equipment brought, you get dropped into the arena with chinese miners that can pump and dump entire markets and have been mining since the bitcoin boom (With all the knowledge that comes with that).
So, now that I've found seemingly the most negative (but true) way to look at it, did you have anything else you were curious about? xD
@notewar: I do indeed mine on claymore at the moment - Be happy you have BTC its by far the easiest to swap to a currency, try somewhere like coinbase. (Warning, high KYS (ID)verification with them)
Thank for your reply. Much appreciated.
How about coinjar? e.g. transfer BTC from my wallet to coinjar and then withdraw. They seems to have lesser fees.
Thanks for your response.
I dont plan on mining for coins, but I was wondering if its risky buying a used GPU from a Miner to play games on :P
@mavis30551: Well, I coulda saved some time with my writeup! Heh.. I'd have to say yes its fine if the price makes sense, try stick to new cards where even if the person lies, it would have had to be brought in the past year or two.
Just make sure its at a nice price for you taking on the risk!
GTX 480/580's are mighty old fermi cards, you'd be getting ripped if you paid that amount.
Mind you I'm pretty sure you meant RX480/580. =P
you would be correct! i remember fermi, the old GTX 480 PC mounted heater and egg frypan combo with bonus graphical capabilities.
Yep, currently using one in each room to heat the house. Pretty tropical in here.
Well, it's reading as temporarily unavailable and cannot be added to the cart. Also, it's 237 EUR which is about 347, so I guess the deal is over. Cheers though for spotting, not enough PC deals lately.
It's still working, the deal was always on backorder that's why it's in the title.
I have no problems adding it to the cart and checking out. VAT will be removed at checkout which is how you get the EUR 216,50 total.
Of interest, google translate seemed to have broken the 'add to cart button'in chrome. So I did it in IE then logged in again through chrome. Annnd there it is. Naughty translate!
i dont trust this… should be $599 with all those miners
The wait on the ETA email is killing me!
R.I.P
For those who don't speak French, are people just using Google translate to order?
Yep. What could possibly go wrong..
Oui.
what are the chances of :
A/These all getting cancelled
or
B/ Delivery being 3months+
or
C/ being left in limbo with no confirmation on delivery
D/ the sun not coming up tomorrow. Always a possibility..
Backorder for graphic card these days is such a pain. Stocks will probably come in months.
And when stock is available it'll probably be cheaper.
yah agree. but I still doubt it haha. The miner wouldn't let it go easily :(
At least it's Amazon so you can cancel pretty much anytime until it ships.
would totally pull the trigger if the deal appeared a month earlier.
Ordered 1, I'm in no rush and if the prices fall befire it's available can always cancel. I had a 570 on back order which is now cancelled.
likewise LOL
Thanks OP ordered 25 For mining fun. Will take the rig to my uni and use their power.
Another similar speced nVidia card from the same site - EVGA GTX 1060 6GB for only another EUR 7 ($10). It is the model with the decent big full length heatsink.
Comes in at EUR 222.41 after VAT taken off, delivered and at least it is sort of available with shipping within 1-4 months.
https://www.amazon.fr/Carte-Graphique-GeForce-GTX1060-Superc…Anyone got a magic email with an ETA yet?
Nope. I emailed them asking for ETA about a week ago but just got this scripted response:
We are not able to send you "Sapphire 11265-05-20G Carte graphique AMD Radeon RX 580 8 Go 1366 MHz PCI Express" in the time originally announced, this item being temporarily out of stock.×Your order has not been canceled and we will do our best to get the item for you. We will send you "Sapphire 11265-05-20G Carte graphique AMD Radeon RX 580 8 Go 1366 MHz PCI Express " once we have received a copy of our suppliers and will confirm by e-mail the date and mode of delivery. I'm sorry for the inconvenience this change may have caused. If the order takes too long to meet your needs, you may cancel
I'm in no rush but would still like to know roughly when I'll be getting it. Going to email them again tonight, wish me luck..
Response #2:
I understand your reaction regarding the delay of this order #407-8246935-4445923 but I am regret to inform you again that item is being temporarily out of stock.
I want to assure you that we are working with our suppliers to provide us this item so that we can send it to you as soon as possible . When the item will be available, we will confirm you by email the date, content and method of delivery.
I assure you that Amazon debits your Credit Card on the day of dispatch; therefore, we haven't debited your card yet. As per ourstandard policy, we do not charge you for an order until the time of dispatch. I assure you that this problem will be resolved within few days.
In order to compensation, I am happy to count you among our customers and wish to offer you a gift card of 8,00 euros that you can use during your next visit to Amazon.fr.
The amount of your gift card will not be visible in Your Account but it will be applied automatically to your next order.
So still no ETA yet but got free 8 euro gift card.
Cool, thanks for the response and for the tip on 8 shiny euros.
I emailed Amazon support to ask for a polite update on eta.
I was advised today that stock is due in 10 working days. As compensation they waived the shipping which was unexpected (and welcome).
Fingers crossed!
Thanks for the info.
@Ryballs: Nope, no magic email ETA yet. 10 days passed. Nada.
I was reading more about the worldwide shortage and thinking that surely we are much more important than miners.
Any updates?
Yeah has anyone apart from Brondtstopdt gotten an ETA for theirs? I'm still waiting.
I feel for the guy (after I had a chuckle). I don't think we'll get played like that. Mainly because if they were going to scam they'd do it in a timely fashion, you only get the money after shipping.
On Amazon.com I saw some Sapphire graphics cards were coming back into stock on 2nd September. Which really means nothing as a tonne of cards are out of stock everywhere and I'm sure that some markets are being prioritised. I'd be thinking it's all down the main chip fabricators for AMD graphics who supply the manufacturers. I understand the yield is pretty good on the RX500 series, so it's simple pent up demand.
I'd get a different card, but honestly there's nothing even remotely close to this deal and the Ozbargainer in me can't let go of the potential savings….
Tempting… Just about to pull the pin on a PowerColor RED DEVIL Radeon RX 580 8GB on Newegg, for $430 (3 business day delivery).
Temporairement en rupture de stock.
NO STOCK!!!