What's Your Best Hard Rubbish (Aka Kerbside Collection) Find?

picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 11:57
Last edited 11/07/2017 - 13:32 by 1 other user

Hard rubbish show and tell time!

I somehow have some pretty good luck with my hard rubbish finds. Most recently was a fully working i5 system that was around 3.5 years old, complete with 8GB RAM, Corsair 650W PSU, AsRock Fatality board and a Bitfenix Ghost case - easily a $300+ system if sold second hand!

Other finds include a working, slim PS3 (about 18 months ago, HDD required a reformat and nothing more), my current dryer (maybe 6 or 7 years old and otherwise fine), and my previous washer (a recent model Samsung that lasted a good 2 years before it died) and a fully working bar fridge.

What are your best finds?

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Comments

  • jimbobaus on 11/07/2017 - 12:20
    +20

    May not be the best but the $225 fine for taking something for a hard rubbish collection was a one of a kind item… as in i wont take anything from a hard rubbish pile again… ever!

    • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 12:40
      +75

      Hard rubbish scabbing is one of this country's greatest pastimes.

      To penalise someone for doing so is truly un-Australian!

      (also, in my area at least, you need to book and attach a sign to hard rubbish collections - if there's no sign I'm picking up litter as far as I'm concerned!)

      • jimbobaus on 11/07/2017 - 12:42

        Agreed… it is also illegal
        I actually went to a local council meeting to find out why they fined me (and others)
        its is because apparently once you put rubbish on nature strip for collection, a portion of the liability for the items lies with the council. SO.. if you picked up a washing machine and it was faulty and resulted in your house burning down the council could be held liable.
        My council has since moved to a call and book system and they are pretty efficient, stuff is usually gone by Monday morning.

        • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 13:18
          +65

          if you picked up a washing machine and it was faulty and resulted in your house burning down the council could be held liable

          I couldn't imagine a court in the world that would stand up in. That's like holding them liable if you ate a sandwich out of a council-owned bin and got sick! What a copout, I'm sorry they robbed you like that!

        • Baysew on 11/07/2017 - 13:42
          +1

          @picklewizard: Some newspaper articles (old) indicate that police are OK with it, but councils may have local by-laws.

          Green Light For Hard Rubbish Fossickers

          Melbourne councils differ on laws relating to hard rubbish scavenging

        • oscargamer on 11/07/2017 - 13:46
          +1

          @Baysew:

          why didn't council fine the person who put it out on the nature strip?

        • Diji1 on 11/07/2017 - 14:08
          +1

          @oscargamer: If you pay rates then the council picks up so called hard rubbish on a pre-arranged day.

        • retiredfeline on 11/07/2017 - 14:22
          +20

          I've heard another story, that some councils had subcontracted collection. Those collectors wanted the valuable stuff like the copper in old CRTs (before flat screens took over) and resented freelance collectors grabbing the stuff before them so got council to make it illegal.

        • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 14:25

          @Baysew: Fantastic, I'm under one of the councils that don't seem to mind :)

        • D C on 11/07/2017 - 14:37

          @oscargamer: You're allowed to put it out on the designated day, but not take anything.

        • dbun1 on 12/07/2017 - 12:00
          +1

          @greenpossum:

          This is the main reason, but the main factor is that when the waste collection is tendered out the pricing used by the subcontractors factors in resell/scrap value of the waste collected.

          If the subcontractors can't make back the estimated value, then next time they will just increase their contract prices which in turns means the council passes on a higher "waste management/collection" fee.

          In the end it's the rate payers that suffer - so basically if you want to scab hard rubbish go to another council area :p

        • lplau on 12/07/2017 - 12:48
          -6

          @picklewizard: you'd be suprised on what people can sue you on which is totally the opposite to common sense and being fair.

          Awhile back a house robber was robbing a house but fell on a knife then sues the house owner for compensation and actually won.

          Doctors get sued all the time especially when practicing outside of their work. Which is why usually on a plane…. and they need a doctor nobody sticks their hand up. Because usually when the patient dies you get sued…. and if the patient lives… you may still get sued.

        • BeauKilla on 12/07/2017 - 14:11
          +3

          @lplau:
          Can I have some of what you're smoking? Geez.

        • D C on 12/07/2017 - 15:30
          +2

          @lplau:

          Awhile back a house robber was robbing a house but fell on a knife then sues the house owner for compensation and actually won.

          Yeah, we're going to need a reference for that. Facebook doesn't count.

          Many burglars sue, winning is another story.

        • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2017 - 17:52

          @lplau:

          Any sources? This is the kind of crap that your parents generally tell you when you are 10 so you don't rumble through a hard rubbish collection, cut your hands on some sharp metal, and destroy mum and dad's weekend in the process.

        • MessyG on 12/07/2017 - 18:38

          @lplau: Not true, that's what indemnity insurance is for. Doctors are happy to put up their hands (with a select few who don't who have strong opinions about it), if they're actually qualified to help. They wont if they wont actually be useful (i.e. are a pathologist with zero resuscitation skills!)

        • DiscoJango on 12/07/2017 - 20:47

          @lplau: i have literally been hearing that "broke into a house fell on a knife" story for over 15 years now. just an old wives tale. unless someone can actually reference it and prove me wrong.

        • lplau on 12/07/2017 - 23:36

          @DiscoJango: not exactly that story. But jury found the owner guilty in this one:
          http://fox59.com/2016/04/26/convicted-burglar-sues-homeowner…

        • BertieBrown on 12/07/2017 - 23:47

          That's just silliness and hogwash. How do you attribute which item was left by the homeowner; thusly intended for hard-rubbish and which is illegally dumped by some random poo? How can it be reliably proven that the item that caused damage was collected from hard-rubbish, or was ever intended to be collected by the council, for instance annoying neighbour adds Christine, in TV form, to the pile?

          Surely, surely to goodness, this is just the council's BS attempt to justify this absurd fine with the old its the law excuse; I.E; I'll make up some crap that sounds vaguely plausible to try and dissuade anyone from challenging my ridiculous fine.

        • BertieBrown on 12/07/2017 - 23:57

          @lplau:

          In that story though you've got a homeowner shooting someone they couldn't identify, as they were fleeing, in the back, in the dark, outside their property. Not really even remotely like the knife one.

          I have a feeling that the story about the burglar falling on the knife was introduced for the 'Liar, Liar' movie script.

        • [Deactivated] on 12/07/2017 - 23:59
          +2

          @dbun1:
          I do not disagree at all with the facts stated. I just find it unjust that we should pay our rates just so the council can contract someone to do the job, and even then, the people they contract still need reassurance of additional income.

          What on earth are we paying our rates for then? I would like to know how much the council allocates to subcontracting hard rubbish collection so they can reduce my rates. Piss easy to arrange a skip myself and smart money says it costs less than going through council.

          And I don't have to promise the guy that's collecting that I've out some gold coins in there for good will.

          What a farse.

        • D C on 13/07/2017 - 06:13

          @lplau: Yeah nah, not even close.

        • airzone on 13/07/2017 - 09:40

          @greenpossum: Sounds about right, when money is involved

        • Cyphar on 13/07/2017 - 10:22

          @Baysew: Police would be OK with it as it's not a criminal act. The removal of hard rubbish is often against a Council By-Law that can only be issued by Council workers. Police wouldn't give two shits about it

        • shane1 on 13/07/2017 - 12:32

          @lplau:

          "Awhile back a house robber was robbing a house but fell on a knife then sues the house owner for compensation and actually won."

          This is similar:

          https://www.overlawyered.com/2006/09/the-burglar-and-the-sky…

          https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we…

          "Bodine v. Enterprise High School"

          "A burglar fell through a skylight, and sued the owner of the skylight for his injuries. Bodine sued for $8 million (in 1984 dollars, about $16 million today) and settled for the nuisance sum of $260,000 plus $1200/month for life, about the equivalent of a million dollars in conservatively-estimated 2006 present value.

          In other words, a burglar fell through a skylight, and blamed the skylight’s owners for his injuries; because the law permits such suits, and because the law does not compensate defendants for successful defenses, Bodine had the ability to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from taxpayers for injuries suffered in the course of his own criminal behavior."

        • yabree17 on 13/07/2017 - 15:37

          Oh gosh thats interesting… I am in Hume and they only do call outs now. I was driving to work today and I saw some furniture that had been left out on the side of the road with a big yellow and black sticker plonked on it… cant remember what the sticker said (hard rubbish???)…

          The world has gone mad!!

        • retiredfeline on 13/07/2017 - 18:04

          @yabree17: Illegally dumped rubbish. Dumpers didn't notify council to pick up. Councils are cracking down on this kind of littering.

        • imurgod on 13/07/2017 - 19:02

          @picklewizard: if it's out to be picked up, the liability rates with the council. Mainly if there's any injury though

        • drfuzzy on 13/07/2017 - 19:15

          @lplau:

          I'm a doctor and I only help on planes.

          On land i'm non practising.

          You should read the Good Samaritan legislation.

        • BumbaT on 13/07/2017 - 20:15

          @shane1:

          It was some kids from the school trying to take floodlights for some pranks. The skylight was painted over so it looked like a roof, the year before in the same county a kid died because of the same painted over skylight indistinguishable from roof and he was found dead on the floor of a gym, in this case the Kid fell through and became a quadraplegic. The money he received from the insurance company and not the school was nothing in the grand scheme of things. Robber or not people would have struggled distinguishing roof from skylight and Would have ended in same position.

        • diazepam on 14/07/2017 - 03:35

          @lplau:

          Doctors get sued all the time especially when practicing outside of their work. Which is why usually on a plane…. and they need a doctor nobody sticks their hand up. Because usually when the patient dies you get sued…. and if the patient lives… you may still get sued.

          Simply incorrect in Australia. I've studied medical law. Look up The Civil Liability Act 2002 (NSW) s 57(1). Similar laws and precedence do exist in different states/territories.

          This "Good Samaritan" Acts cover you both ways:
          - If you render assistance (against their will, without reasonably knowing so and/or unable to ascertain their capacity to refuse your treatment) you are protected even if you do not perform as well as would be expected of you while you are working.
          - If patient dies, unless you were consciously doing something/anything that is known to be harmful. Having said that you are still protected because of the so-called "Agony of the moment" error where you make an error in judgement which careful thought would have suggested otherwise. You are offered protection for such a mistake.
          - You are not obliged to help either. (While morally obliged, you have no duty of care.)

          TL;DR: If you tried helping, as long as you didn't royally (profanity) up, you are protected by the full scope of the law.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/07/2017 - 14:27

          @picklewizard:

          Imagine if the situation was more the council allowed or encouraged it. For example, they piled up refurbishable items and gave them away. Suddenly there would be some level of liability.

          The current legislation (imo) is simply to distance themselves from this liability - it ends up being a case of "you broke the law to get the item". Without this it probably still wouldn't hold up in court, bu there would be a chance it could actually go to court. They could argue by not legislating against it, it's allowing it to happen. With this law it wouldn't even go to court.

        • lethalmoney on 14/07/2017 - 18:30

          @Cyphar:

          Correct

    • airal3rt on 11/07/2017 - 13:52
      +31

      That's a bullshit law and I would have contested the fine. Sending perfectly usable items into landfill instead of being utilised is the real criminality here.

      • jimbobaus on 11/07/2017 - 15:13
        +17

        I did contest the fine.. in person at the next Local council meeting.
        I argued that it was unjust as all i was doing was preventing it going to Landfill.
        The fine was eventually withdrawn thankfully, but i wont be picking anything up again that is for sure.

        • Meconium on 12/07/2017 - 13:59
          +21

          The fine was eventually withdrawn

          Now you tell us!

        • ronnknee on 12/07/2017 - 20:04

          Glad it turned out well for you.

    • jellykingdom on 11/07/2017 - 14:07
      +3

      Woah!!!!!!!!!! I literally didn't know you could be fined for that

      • DarwinBoy on 12/07/2017 - 21:04

        Have a read of your local bylaws. Lots of interesting things you cant do. My council isnt against a bit of kerbside 'recycling' thankfully.

    • phocus on 12/07/2017 - 11:27
      +4

      but how did they fine you? was there a council fine guy just patrolling around or something?

      Or did you get reported by some old guy with nothing better to do?

      • Cyphar on 13/07/2017 - 10:24
        +1

        Or did you get reported by some old guy with nothing better to do?

        That's pretty much it. "I saw a guy take stuff from a hard rubbish collection and take it back to <address>"

    • shandawgg on 12/07/2017 - 16:54
      +7

      So moral of the story - ensure the item is worth more than $225 before you acquire…

      • Kangal on 12/07/2017 - 20:55
        +1

        Don't forget gas money/postage and handling !!

    • mataeka on 13/07/2017 - 09:51

      Yikes - I'm sure I've read something from Brisbane City Council that they encourage Kerbside scrounging as it reduces the amount they have to process!

  • D C on 11/07/2017 - 13:38
    +26

    Washing machine (NEC) - had a loose wire on the spin sensor.
    Fridge - starter on compressor was burnt out, replaced and ran fine.
    Microwave ovens - most work, some have a blown fuse. Kept a few (good for 'experiments'), gave a few away, parted out the rest.
    Treadmill - repaired motor (loose magnet), sold on Gumtree (waited for spring to get the 'gotta get fit for summer' crowd) for $500.
    Whipper snipper - replaced starter return spring. Kept it as it was better than the one I already owned.
    3 huge butchers blocks. Still got them.

    Probably forgotten a few others.

    No council clean-up where I'm living now, dang.

    • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 14:23
      +7

      Amazing what people will throw out without even thinking of repairing, hey?

      I picked up a 42" LED TV (Soniq brand admittedly) that needed a couple of voltage regs ($1 or less), and my dryer had had some water leak into it and corrode the power switch when I got it.

      • D C on 11/07/2017 - 14:36
        +10

        Yep, most stuff only has simple faults, 30 minutes and/or $5 tends to fix it. Electronics with dodgy caps is pretty common and an easy fix.

        I was bit disappointed that washing machine & treadmill were easily fixed, I wanted the motors out of them.

        • neo on 11/07/2017 - 14:50

          Out of curiosity, what would one do with a motor out of a treadmill or washing machine etc.?

        • D C on 11/07/2017 - 15:19
          +13

          @neo-X: Basically make or fix/upgrade power tools.

          The treadmill motors are DC and have a speed control, I was going to using it to replace the one on my little lathe (which is a little under-powered). They also have a smaller motor for the incline that might be useful.

          Washing machines aren't that convenient these days, they usually have some weird direct-motor motor that's a bit hard to control, the older pulley ones were good for other tools like grinders or drills.

          I think I wanted to make a tumbler or something at the time.

          You can make vacuum pumps or quiet air compressors (air brush etc) from fridges.

      • Baghern on 12/07/2017 - 12:19
        +1

        learning/youtube time, repair time, where the hell do you get repair kits now? In the end cheaper to buy new, if you value your time.

        I've tried to repair electronics… after sufficient youtubing… went to dicksmith to get a capacitor and solder iron… nope they don't sell it anymore… who the fk sell these gear now.

        • D C on 12/07/2017 - 12:31
          +2

          eBay & AliExpress, Jaycar if you're desperate.

          For a soldering iron you'll be wanting a 936 knock-off for around $30.

        • jerjergege on 13/07/2017 - 13:40

          Element14, website is a bit confusing, but they do 1 day delivery either very cheap / free if you spend over a small amount.

        • jerjergege on 13/07/2017 - 13:40

          @D C:
          You missed one of the best sites, element14

        • D C on 13/07/2017 - 23:53

          @jerjergege:

          You missed one of the best sites, element14

          No I didn't, Element14 is crap.

          Very unfriendly to the hobbyist (their onesy-twosy prices are sky-high) and their customer service is atrocious.

          The free shipping only kicks in for orders over $75.

          I once placed an order, paid by credit and selected pick-up because I lived nearby. Element14 changed that to courier and charged my credit card for it. No authorisation, no worries!

          Then they kept ringing me asking if I wanted to set up an account with them. Are you kidding me?

          Element14? Yeah nah no thanks.

      • [Deactivated] on 14/07/2017 - 00:29
        +1

        So you spent more on voltage regs than what a Soniq is really worth!

    • D C on 11/07/2017 - 17:20
      +30

      I've just remembered something else. There was a spot up the road from me where people would dump stuff, one day I saw a cash register drawer and decided to add it to my pile of junk.

      Worked fine, even had the trays and as a bonus had a $100 bill inside!

    • D C on 13/07/2017 - 11:59
      +1

      Geez my memory is terrible, this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/apqjd32me7qvync/2016-11-11%2016.19… might count as the best thing ever.

      4 kilograms of concrete skull, put out by someone who was moving house.

      Why would you not take that with you?

      Currently has pride of place on the fireplace mantle.

  • Euphemistic on 11/07/2017 - 14:09
    +8

    I've collected a fair few bikes over the years and sold most of them off.

    This morning was my best score: Brand name MTB with hydraulic brakes, decent running gear and a new brand name tyre probably worth $1k when new. A bit further down the street was a camping hot water service, I'll assume it isn't working but shouldn't be hard to fix.

    Also other times:
    Mid-Quality 90s MTB
    Cordless chainsaw to suit my current batteries.
    Upright Dyson vacuum, now my workshop vacuum.
    Folding workbench just missing winder handles.

    So much stuff to choose from locally it will be a sad day when it stops.

    • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 14:24
      +1

      A Dyson? That's a proper score there! And the saw that you already had a battery for, that's a win!

      • Euphemistic on 11/07/2017 - 18:58
        +2

        the Dyson had been in the rain. I was going to butcher it to connect to my bagged garage vac, cheapo bag less. But I plugged the Dyson in (to a power board with built in earth leakage just in case) and it worked. The handle was a bit broken, but liquid nails and duct tape fixed that. It's since cleaned up all sorts of renovation waste, including a couple of drum fully of plastering dust and it is still going fine after the filter got cleaned out.

  • OverburdenedWarrior on 11/07/2017 - 14:15
    +1

    I've picked up a few quality bookcases that only needed some quick touch-ups. Not much up for grabs around our area this year though. :(

  • dufflover on 11/07/2017 - 14:33

    My suburb is pretty crap for this. Nothing really of value, or things where the people had no idea on the value, or rich enough to not care :(

    The "best" I've found was an old vaccuum cleaner, where I'm assuming the unit was faulty but the hose part was still fine and the right size for my garage vac, to fit onto tool dust ports and stuff.

    • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 15:23
      +9

      Now this is going to come off as horrendously prejudiced, but I live in the biggest Jewish settlement outside of Israel and I've scored literally all of my best finds here!

      Take away from that what you will :)

      • ihbh on 11/07/2017 - 19:31

        Somewhere in the North Shore?

        • John Kimble on 11/07/2017 - 22:22
          +5

          St Ives?

        • Speckled Jim on 12/07/2017 - 09:22
          +1

          There's a suburb called Menora in Perth.
          Probably not if they're talking outright numbers.

      • Shiny Mew on 13/07/2017 - 08:59
        +1

        Caulfield?

        • titan0r on 13/07/2017 - 14:11
          +1

          If the OP is in Vic, it has to be the Caulfield area.
          Plenty of perfectly good items thrown out not just by the locals but also international uni students who leave in a hurry. I found a solid timber $500 coffee table which must have been less than 6-8 months old.

      • chriskq on 14/07/2017 - 11:42

        jehovah's Dover heights sydney?

      • Xplosive on 14/07/2017 - 21:42
        +1

        Palestine?

  • wombledomble on 11/07/2017 - 14:35
    +28

    Weber Silver series BBQ(Genesis style). The piezo igniter didn't work and the castors were flat from when I quickly dragged it along the footpath to put in the back of the car.

    Weber provided me with a new igniter and a set of 2 castors free!!!

    • chillybags on 18/07/2017 - 13:29
      +1

      I found a Weber baby Q, looked almost brand new. Igniter didn't work and I emailed Weber and they sent me new parts for free! Great "customer" service!

  • Looking4Bargians on 11/07/2017 - 14:44
    +1

    Username Checked !!

  • John Kimble on 11/07/2017 - 14:49
    +22

    People in my area (lower north shore) have too much money, most of the time they throw out perfectly fine stuff. People from Western Sydney come around in utes/vans collecting anything worthwhile, fixing it and probably reselling it back to idiot people in my area at markets.

    • tomleonhart on 13/07/2017 - 17:51
      +3

      If they have too much money, they aren't idiots!

      • John Kimble on 13/07/2017 - 18:01
        +2

        touché :(

      • spriggan43 on 14/07/2017 - 10:36
        +1

        "If I had his money. I'd do things my way"
        Satisfied Mind

    • spriggan43 on 14/07/2017 - 10:39
      +1

      Proof that trickle down economics works :)

  • garetz on 11/07/2017 - 14:54
    +16

    Several years ago i found a box of magic the gathering cards, full of common and uncommon alpha and beta and lands.

    • John Kimble on 11/07/2017 - 15:06
      +5

      Thread closed. We have a winner haha

    • poboy on 11/07/2017 - 20:01

      The only thing I know about Magic is that the Black Lotus is worth tonnes of money and that their Bitcoin servers were hacked.

  • anzacpaul on 11/07/2017 - 15:06
    +3

    Xbox 360 packed perfectly back in it's box, working. Also grabbed 3x perfectly good medium sized eskys.

    Weber kettles are the best to grab if you ever see them, they are bulletproof and can normally be repaired very cheaply compared to their original cost.

    • HoracePinker on 13/07/2017 - 15:05
      +2

      Yes I got a Xbox 360 a few weeks ago and i got a ps3 last weekend. Almost missed it it was packed inside an old back pack. Also got an i3 computer (surprised they throwing those out already)

  • Mad Max on 11/07/2017 - 16:16
    +22

    Can you guys pick up stuff when your wife is in the car?
    I don't normally stop and rummage for stuff, but once I saw this beautiful antique silky oak side board. Solid silky oak, not veneer.
    And in very good condition. Needless to say I could not leave it there. I had a big old 4wd station wagon back then.
    It just fit in the back, but was a struggle and it took some time.
    My wife was furious and did not speak to me for the rest of the day :-(
    The side board has now been polished and waxed and it looks a million $$$

    • D C on 11/07/2017 - 17:17
      +49

      Wait until next council cleanup, maybe someone will leave a better wife out there. Take one, leave one.

      My girlfriend once dragged home a set of metal drawers, a bit like the old library index card things. Rally good for storing parts, which someone had been using it for. Looked like it came from a garage or something.

      It's very heavy, she did well. Even with the trolley it's a bit of a struggle shifting it.

    • picklewizard on 11/07/2017 - 22:43
      +11

      I don't understand, why would she be mad? What did you do wrong?

      How's your home life? :/ RUOK?

      (In all seriousness, my misso will sigh and roll the eyes, but she'll grin because shit like this is what makes me me and I know she wouldn't change that - she walked by my side as I had the PC under my arm yesterday!)

    • Speckled Jim on 12/07/2017 - 09:34
      +1

      Sorry to hear mate. Not diminishing the incident, but it did remind me of a certain something

      • Mad Max on 12/07/2017 - 10:22
        +3

        LOL
        Not that bad…
        Just I suppose some people find rummaging in other people's discarded stuff a bit like scavenging.
        Here in Brisbane the council used to encourage recyclers that salvage items before they are collected.
        On kerbside collection time these days there is a procession of people with utes, trailers, vans and trucks doing the rounds.
        I think, good on them for many reasons.
        1)they reduce stuff going to landfill
        2)they make some money
        3)if they clean/fix the item and resell it they create a 2nd hand market for people that cannot afford to buy new.

        • Speckled Jim on 12/07/2017 - 11:18

          Absolutely, and more besides. I used to have a rummage now and then and scored some good items. This is a regular topic on OzB.

          What I find disappointing is our Council doesn't have hard collections. Each year they send each household two free entry vouchers for the recycling centre.

          Classic bit? At the same location, you'll find the tip shop. So not only are we denied first dibs, they're selling the good stuff!

    • iniff on 12/07/2017 - 10:43
      +3

      I expected this story to end with you leaving her kerbside while you took the side board home.

      • Mad Max on 12/07/2017 - 15:34
        +3

        No you have it the wrong way around.
        It would have been more me being left kerbside with the side board as she took off with the car while I was assessing the loading task!

    • MessyG on 12/07/2017 - 18:39
      +10

      My husband picks up stuff BECAUSE I am in the car :D

    • PJC on 13/07/2017 - 03:10
      +1

      My wife complained I bought a portable ghetto blaster for $1 at a garage sale. It helped me convert her 180 spoken-word tapes to mp3.

    • ihbh on 13/07/2017 - 08:12

      It took a long time for me to convince the wife it's more sustainable to have a look and selectively pick up stuff that is of use.

      It's doubly hard when you need a second pair of hands to get it in the car/home and the wife is fuming.

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