I don't want to go too over the top with specs.
Just want a normal PC, for a decent price, that can play games like CSGO, GTA V and Overwatch at playable settings. My budget is under $600.
Pretty Good Gaming PC - Budget $600
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do not worry , there is no way you can go over the top with specs for under 600!.
ONE BILLION DOLLARS!
$600 is a low budget, and lower is even more difficult: you're looking into eSports category.
The sweet-spot in terms of gaming is the Ryzen R5 1400 (>$200) and AMD RX 470 (>$220).
But anyways your budget is too low to hit that massive increase in performance and value, you're possibly looking at something like:Used? (if you're lucky)
4.4GHz Core i7-2500k, 1866MHz (8GB) DDR3, 1200MHz (3GB) AMD HD7970, 5400rpm (1TB) HDD.New? (budget overblown)
4.1GHz Ryzen r5-1600, 3200MHz (16GB) DDR4, 2100MHz (6GB) GTX 1060, 7200rpm (2TB) HDD + Crucial MX300 (500GB) M.2PS Going the route of Cheap Ryzen makes the most sense, because there will be little difference in games from a 3.9GHz R5-1400, compared to a 4.1GHz R7-1800X when using a mid-range GPU… but in the future games will get more optimised for ryzen, new games will be able to target 4+ cores more efficiently, and Ryzen v2.0 should bring some enhancements. So getting on the M4 platform now will allow you to sell the R5-1400 in the future, and upgrade to something like an R7-2700 instead without needing a new Motherboard or RAM. And at that time, you will possibly be able to also upgrade your mid-range graphics card also… from something lowly like a RX 470 to a GTX 1170, because I believe at that time the driver issues with Nvidia GPUs on Ryzen CPUs will be fixed.
PSPS Future-proofing is dumb, but at least we can make intelligent decisions upfront. Just like gamers who upgraded their 2005 Xbox 360's in 2012 to actual Gaming PCs like the Used Specs listed above; that can give the unreleased Xbox One X and PS4 Pro a run for its money.AMD RX 470 (>$220).
All the miners would love to know where to get them for that price
I know right.
It's making me think of getting into mining as well, because if its that popular now, it means its potential to grow is much higher and faster.Only problem is that there's little to no ATM's in Australia where you can trade actual currency to BitCoins and vice versa. The USA apparently has around one thousand nodes of these.
have you looked at coinjar ?
@toomuch:
Hmmm, this is neat.
Is the 1% transaction fee standard?
Or is it cheap / expensive compared to the market?I know 'mericans are doing everything for next to no charges. Plus they have access to a lot more hardware, more cheaper prices, and cheaper electricity. I've been doing the maths and its barely profitable now in Aus… which means its a goldmine in USA and definitely in China.
PS The shortages in GPUs and PSUs aren't because of people doing mining, its because of a very few people buying up hundreds of them and running them in warehouses. So we should refrain from trolling people that are mining privately with <6 cards at their homes.
Why do you keep recommending Ryzen CPU's for gaming machines when Intel beats Ryzen when it comes to gaming. Gaming is the one application where Intel beats Ryzen.
And future optimisations like you describe are unlikely and then you go on to describe your own advice in the preceding sentences as dumb.
Why? Because I already explained.
By gaming/benchmarks you should look at balanced titles like GTA V, Witcher 3, Watch Dogs 2, AotSE.
BF 1 is well-optimised but is CPU light/GPU heavy. Doom also is well-optimised but CPU superlight/GPU heavyweight. Just to be upfront about it.There has been an Optimisation Update on Ashes for Ryzen, while only a patch (not re-write), it definitely improves performance. Were seeing the GTX 1080 and
R7-1700 with stock memory (2400MHz) doing a pathetic 62fps on Extreme Settings at 1080p pre-patch.
And after-patch and boost in memory (3200MHz) its doing a great 86fps at the same 1080p-Extreme Settings.That's a minimum boost of x1.17, and with the memory overclock, its a massive x1.39 increase in performance.
With some more (free) overclocking from 3.7GHz to a 4.1GHz, we should see this performance/percentage increase to x1.45/89fps. Basically Ryzen has caught up to the i7-6900k performance wise at 90fps, and shames the i7-7700k's score of 45fps.Going Intel you're looking at the G4560, Core i3-7350k, Core i5-7400, Core i5-7600k, Core i7-7700k.
The Ryzen 1400 beats the first 3 in gaming.
The Ryzen 1600 matches the i5-7600k, but can do multitasking/more futureproof.
The Ryzen 1700 (essentially equivalent to the R7-1800X), can't match the i7-7700k in IPC/DX11 Gaming, but surpasses it everything else.Here in these comparisons Ryzen offers better thermal efficiency, better multitasking ability, and possible future-proofing. The Intel equivalents do none of that, and are more expensive.
Sure if you have a GTX 1080Ti, you would be better off with a Core i7-7700k for Gaming Only.But let me remind you once more, the Ryzen chips, are on the AM4 (1331) motherboard.
That means you DO NOT need to change motherboards for the next several AMD chipsets… and that's a long time (~2022). The current Intel Chipset socket (1151) has been around since 2015 and will end in 2019, with Cannonlake that's about to debut soon.So it makes almost no sense to go Intel at this time, not unless you have a specific need.
Besides the OP can't even go the route of BEST VALUE R5-1400 ($200) and RX470 ($220)….
….or GREAT VALUE R5-1600 ($290) and GTX 1060 6GB ($350)… they simply don't have the budget.
The best (new) the OP can do with their low-end budget is G4560 ($90) and GTX 1050 ($160) non-Ti because they need budget for the other items memory, storage, case, accessories, os etc etc.
Because Ryzen has better price performance than Intel.
Save another $500 and ask again.
Dont cheap out this much.http://www.logicalincrements.com/
What does the $ need to buy? Monitor, KB, mouse, speakers? Just the tower?
Do you currently have anything you will be reusing? eg. case, HDD, SSD, PSUMaybe $1000 for a decent budget gaming PC?
Personally I would budget $2000 for a good gaming PC if you want it to last.This assumes you already have the monitor(s), keyboard, mouse and speakers.
Yeah I have a small monitor, a basic mouse and keyboard. What parts could I get with $1000 for a PC?
I used https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ to assemble my last build. You have to make sure the pieces you pick are compatible.
I would probably start out with a shopping list like this. It uses very rough estimates I grabbed from partpicker.
Overall the majority of your budget will be going towards the Motherboard, CPU and GPU.- Operating System - Windows 10 64 bit = $130 for Home version (might be able to get it free if you're a student? unsure)
- Basic Software - Open Office = Free (otherwise budget for Office suite if you really want it)
- Hard Drives - 240GB SSD for $115 and 1TB HD for $65 (I wouldn't get the cheaper 120GB SSD as games are really big these days)
- Motherboard - Whatever is compatible with your chosen CPU/GPU/RAM = $150-200?
- CPU - Intel or AMD = $250?
- GPU - nVidia or AMD = $200?
- RAM - 8GB = $90 (or $160 for 16GB)
- Power Supply - 80+ Bronze-Gold = $80-100
- Optical drive - DVD drive = $20 (or bluray drive for $85)
- CPU Cooler - optional but monitor your PC's CPU temps while gaming and if they are too hot, buy one = $50?
- Case - whatever's big enough to fit the parts and a CPU cooler if needed = hard to estimate without picking other parts first
As I said before these are just rough prices, you will get much more accurate prices if you select specific items for your build and ask here for feedback. It's probably easiest to go over your budget when picking parts, then work out where you want to scale back. That is how I would approach buying and building a new PC, personally. I hope this helps you get started :)
If I had to give you a list of tips, they would be:
- SSD is expensive but I personally found it makes a huge different for boot times and game loading times. Up to you if you want to spend the $ though. I game a heck of a lot so for me it's worth.
- 8GB is minimum for RAM, I would not buy less personally.
- Bluray drive is not worth it unless you have no bluray players or game consoles that can play blurays, imo.
The obvious answer is pay the MINIMUM amount for the minimum specs requirered. Dont go overboard. Such PCs loose value very quickly. Just a waste on money really.
These days a decent graphics card costs around 600..so if you want high quality low budget gaming better go for a console such as ps4.
As technology has advanced so had demands on gaming specs & costs..sadly 600 wont get you anything decent these days.
"My budget is under $600."
About $600.