[Buying a New Car] Best Price for The New Hyundai i30?

My '98 Camry has decided to finally die a slow and painful death - the alternator is dying, a major service is due and with all the other dents/dings/hail damage, it means that i'll be forking out more than the worth of the car to fix it :(

After doing a bit of research , i'm looking at getting the new Hyundai i30.

I'm living in VIC and my budget is under $30K.

Just had a few questions for the OzBargain community:

  1. Would you recommend any other cars within that price range? (the other cars I was considering were the Mazda CX-3. Mazda 3 and Subaru Imprezza)

  2. Anyone been able to get any good EOFY deals from Hyundai dealerships? (or thru any particular car brokers i.e. AutoExpert.com.au) IIRC - I thought I remembered coming across a website where people posted the prices they got from dealerships on cars to help people gauge if they were negotiating a decent price.

  3. Has anyone used or have any feedback on John Cadogen's AutoExpert brokering service?

As this is my first time buying a new car - any other hints, tips or advice would be greatly appreciated - thanks :)

Comments

  • +1

    Don't use a broker, learn to do this yourself. All brokers charge the dealership a ~$500 'finders fee'. Who's bottom line do you think this is coming out of? Not the dealers.

    At EOFY it's hard to get massive discounts on cars already on special.

    As to asking about other cars, how about being finalised on 1 car before checking best prices etc etc?

    Be ready to buy to get best price, don't be flaky.

  • Thanks for the quick reply Spackbace.

    Since my current car's been out of action only happened recently - I haven't had much time to go and take a test drive or explore what's out there. Most of my research has been behind the keyboard. With EOFY breathing down on my neck - I'm under a lot of pressure to make a decision in short space of time.

    I'm pretty sure I want the i30 - but i'm still reserving my final judgement based on price and having a few test drives.

    If i'm negotiating a deal on my own - does that mean that it'll be harder to get the buying power/fleet discounts, etc. that brokers or a Novated lease company might have?

    • +2

      Generally speaking, any factory bonus offered for a novated purchase is normally quite small and only marginally better than retail pricing, plus not all retailers have a fleet program.

  • +3

    EOFY is no more special than any other month, I'd just delay any purchasing decision till the last week of the month because some dealers will offer better deals in order to make their monthly target.

    Negotiate hard but be ready to back it up with a decent cash deposit.

    • Actually it's better to be delivered this month too, so while it's all well and good to buy this month, taking delivery really helps.

      • +2

        Yeah I didn't go to that level of detail to avoid typing out a wall of text explaining how monthly bonus matrices work ;)

  • Are you able to explain further Spackbace? Does the salesperson/dealer only chalk up a sale once the car is delivered before the end of the month? or is a deposit and signed contract enough for them to count it in their monthly sales?

    • +1

      This all comes down to the psychology behind the automotive sales model in general -

      From the salesperson's perspective, a signed contract and deposit is counted as a sale for that month, but only in terms of individual performance targets.

      The sale isn't formally counted toward the dealership total (and commission paid to salesperson) until the vehicle has been registered, financials are sorted and the vehicle has physically left the dealership.

  • +2

    buy a 2009 camry with low KMs

    otherwise - an alternator is a piece of cake to replace. usually 2 or 3 bolts to be undone. the wiring plug to be unplugged. easy to swap it out in 15-20 minutes max.

    • Yeah, replacing an alternator's not hard, and the parts are cheap from wreckers if you call around. If I recall correctly the alternator's right at the top of the engine on this series of Camry, with one bolt to hold it and another for adjustment to make the belt taught.

      That said, you might have to get a battery as well if the alternator has been failing for a while.

  • +3

    I've just purchased a brand new 2017 i30 for $20k driveaway from Salters in QLD. The reason it was cheap is that it has minor hail damage and the one I looked at and got only had 3 very minor dings which could only be seen in the right light and angle.

    Apparently a shipment of vehicles sitting on the dock got hit with hail so Hyundai sold them cheap to the dealership. Salters had quite a few in stock.

    It only had 12klm on it and I got them to fix the damage for $300.

    • +1

      Is it listed on the REVS as being hail damaged?

      • I couldnt find a free check on the vehicle. All sites lead to car history for a paid history. Any recommendations?

    • Hi am interested in a hail damaged I30 as well, When you said you got them to fix the damage are you saying you got the dealer to fix it for you> Also what model I30 did you get? Great price by the way

      • +1

        Yes, the dealer fixed up the damage prior to us collecting the vehicle. Not sure on the model, but I would say just the base model and not a sports/premium type model.

  • +1

    the other cars I was considering were the Mazda CX-3. Mazda 3 and Subaru Imprezza

    First organize for a test drive of all interested cars and decide which car you are going to go with.
    Then you can think of negotiating for a best price.

  • Take a look at Kia Cerato.

    Also, have you ever (test)dirven VW Golf? Reliability concerns apart, this car is far ahead in refinement and driving satisfaction compared to everything in this class.

  • I'm not sure if this applies to Hyundai as I've never bought from them. But if the build date doesn't worry you - maybe try and bargain on a 2016 plated one? Also, have you had any relatives/friends that has recently bought new cars? Try going to the same dealer and telling them so and so recommended them - might help with the discounts. (we were repeat customers of the same dealer and they were able to give us a great price when we got ours)

    Also, don't be afraid to walk away if the price isn't what you had in mind. Also, if the dealers can't go any further down on price, trying negotiating extras in place of price.

    In terms of other different models; perhaps Kia for their 7 year warranty?

  • Unless you get a very big discount I wouldn't buy the old model i30.

    Big discounts on the new model are going to be harder to achieve as it has only recently come on the market. EoFY deals are generally on models that are harder to shift not the popular models.

    As mentioned above end of month haggling and sticking with your max price with no crap extras like paint protection is the way to go.

  • I'm wanting the Hyundai i30 SR. I am also interested to see what prices /deals other have been successful with.

  • +1

    Buy a Corolla Hatch (fully imported from Japan) Unbelievable quality for price. Don't get sucked in by the Hyundai warranty. You will need it and much longer for all of the likely problems.

  • i read john's reviews. there is a good article on drive.com.au on eofy deals 2017. tells you which cars are going cheap. I read John's subaru liberty review and was impressed enough to drive an eofy deal for one at $29000. paid for some extra 'warranty' which seemed OK given the roadside assit might cover most of that cost.

  • If you do proceed with purchasing from Hyundai dealership, I took out a carlton AFL 11 game membership (cost me around $200) and got $1000 cash back on a Tucson I bought in April (just make sure membership and car are purchased in same name). I think cashback for i30 might have only been $500, but still
    Can find the forms and conditions by googling it, need to have membership at time of purchase etc.

  • For those who looking for the active model, I got an offer 23.25k, possible can go down to 23k.

    I'm in tough decision right now. For the same price, new gen active or 2015 SR premium :( Any help? The SR Premium have everything, sunroof, heated seat bla bla bla

  • +1

    Why buy new? Depreciation is a big cost! This is ozbargain! :) If you must buy new go in with your eyes open. RACV just totaled the weekly costs for owning a vehicle AND weekly of actually driving it. Hyundai i30 costs $114 a week if you do 0 kms a week. https://www.racv.com.au/membership/member-benefits/royalauto…

  • Yep get a Corolla Hatch sports. 23990 new. The build quality is outstanding! I just bought mine a week ago and I love it!

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