Help with My Build! Is This an Overkill?

Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 09:10
Last edited 16/06/2017 - 09:10

Helloo!

I'm needing to replace my current home server and retiring 3 other PC's into one.

The server would be to run Blue Iris (Security Software) which can be a CPU hog, Plex Server and repository for serving up my work files (large sized images, web stuff and everyday documents and files). May also include WAMP.

My Spec are:
CPU: Intel S1151 Core i7 7700K 4.2GZ Quad Core

Motherboard: Gigabyte S1151 Micro ATX H270M-D3H

Ram: 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws

SSD: 250GB Samsung 960 EV PCIe M.2

Case: Fractal Design R5

PSU: 550 Watt Corsair TX550M Modular 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply

Now the big thing for me is the number of drives:
2x4TB WD Red - For holding and serving up my files and running as a large pool using DrivePool

2x6TB WD Red - For holding and serving up my media (movies, tv) and running as a large pool using DrivePool

1x4TB WD Red - For holding the sercurity camera recordings

Is this an overkill or is there a better way to simplify this? I already have a NAS in RAID with 9TB of space for backup of our files, so perhaps I should look at using Raid instead of DrivePool which does have a nice feature for duplication of files for redudency.

The parts I have picked can be viewed here: https://www.computeralliance.com.au/systems?quoteid=70574

Am using Computer Alliance as they are close to me and the purchase would be for a business, meaning if there is a problem I can see them in person to get things addressed. Thanks to the ATO I've got to spend money to save money :)

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Comments

  • cypher67 on 16/06/2017 - 09:22

    What exactly do you plan to use it for, just a home server? Thats a monster CPU for a home server. Why would you need so much storage if you already have a NAS? As you are not gaming, could be beneficial getting a Ryzen 5 for productivity reasons. Integrated graphics is so limiting. Anyway, nothing like I'd ever build.

    • Superstar15 on 16/06/2017 - 09:31

      Ryzen is good (and I would go this route as well) for this build but a lack of integrated gpu would mean he would also need to purchase one.

      • Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 09:39

        Does Ryzen have the equivalent of Intel's Quick Sync? This feature makes a big difference with Blue Iris as it can utilise this to reduce CPU usage.

        • Superstar15 on 16/06/2017 - 09:43

          No idea not too familiar with blue Iris. Best bet is to look up some benchmarks

    • Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 09:37

      Hi

      The big thing with the CPU is that I am planning on having around 6+ IP cameras and the software I use, Blue Iris, can be a memory and CPU hog.

      The NAS I have is my secondary backup of all our files, exluding non essential stuff such as movies and tv files.

      It won't be used for gaming, just as a server in the office.

      Its probably indeed an overkill, but I don't know what the sweet spot would be for the CPU to have a smooth running machine with Blue Iris and Plex simultaneously.

      • cypher67 on 16/06/2017 - 09:58

        Find out if the Blue Iris software has a cap on the number of cores it can utilise, an 8 core Ryzen could be the best decision you ever make if it can use them.

  • KitchenSink on 16/06/2017 - 10:03
    +1

    Stick with what Blue Iris Software recommends, nothing on their website says Ryzen (yet)

    Recommendations when using many and/or HD cameras:
    - Intel core i7 with QuickSync for hardware decoding
    - 8GB or more RAM
    - Microsoft Windows 8.1 or 10, 64 bit
    - nVIDIA graphics adaptor for efficient screen display
    - 7200+ RPM drives and/or SSD drive

    Your PC specs are fine. Lots of IP camera software utilise high CPU for live streaming of multiple cameras at 1080p.

    With regards to the HDDs, I would make it 1 large RAID 5/6 or something and split it logically (partitions/volumes to the sizes you want). You get better performance and added redundancy

    • Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 10:19

      Is Raid 5 where you have one drive out of a group acting as the parity/stripe (sorry not sure on the terminology)? So having 3x4TB you would ahve 8tb of usage space.

      My thought was to have drives specifically for the application, such as one for the IP record, but in real-life it wouldn't make a difference in going with your suggestion? The redudency is definately a big positive.

  • misu p on 16/06/2017 - 10:23

    For others: buy an i7, it is a solid platform.

    For myself: Ryzen 1700 with unraid (please note it does not work very well with Ryzen from what I heard) so I can have your security software running on a machine (windows only I assume) while I am free to tinker with the other cores. I would probably run another Linux machine with docker plex and docker lamp and do development on that one. Maybe run a Windows machine for a couple of games. Just having fun with all the cores :).

  • Diji1 on 16/06/2017 - 10:45

    Saving money by spending it so you pay less tax. I don't think it works like that ;)

    Isn't Ryzen a better fit here? No gaming and many threads required …

    • Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 12:13

      Saving money by spending it so you pay less tax. I don't think it works like that ;)

      LOL thats what I thought, but with a big tax bill coming up I'm advised I can get an immediate deduction. So I'm just bringing forward forecasted expenditure to be spent in this financial period.

      The thing with Intel is Quick Sync which helps with the video and from my research Blue Iris will not run very well without this.

  • theHMASfriendship on 16/06/2017 - 10:57
    +1

    Maybe 7700 instead of 7700k? All the threads and $50 cheaper, with a free cooler.

  • Ryanek on 16/06/2017 - 13:23

    That CPU is overkill for your purpose and not suited for your chosen motherboard. If you plan to overclock which is what the "K" stands for you need to pair it with a Z170 chipset motherboard.

    • Clivey In Space on 16/06/2017 - 13:44

      Thanks. What do you suggest would be a better CPU and motherboard? I have no plans on overclocking.

      • Ryanek on 16/06/2017 - 14:26
        +1

        Sounds like you need to stick with intel for the Quick Sync feature so a 7700 should do the trick.

  • KaTst3R on 16/06/2017 - 15:17

    How much pirated shit do you have….gawd damn….

  • alvian on 17/06/2017 - 04:59
    +1

    Why 4x8GB G.Skill Ripjaws? Your chosen mainboard doesn't support quad channel memory so isn't it better to buy 2x16GB Crucial 2400MHz (for the same price) and have two spare RAM slots for future expansion to 64GB?

    • Clivey In Space on 17/06/2017 - 06:36

      Thanks for pointing that out and a great idea on saving slots. It was a llack of knowledge mistake.

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