Question about NBN and Modem

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  jackwoz on 12/06/2017 - 17:47

  +1

  Hey buddy,

  Im no expert, im still waiting for NBN my self.

  TBH the modem router they give you will be good for most people. It may have crappy range and the inbuilt software may be no good if you like to get your hands dirty in the settings. You have to make sure you get a a compatable modem for NBN

  100mb in theory is 12.5 MB/sec. You most likely wont get this especially if your on FTTN as opposed to FTTP. Lets assume you get 10MB/sec, so 200 seconds for a 2GB file

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  bjdchwr on 12/06/2017 - 19:24

  +1

  It seems you will get FTTN, given the fact that you are talking about HG659.

  I think there is no absolute "good company" as your speed sometimes depend on your local area - number of the users, line quality/distance to the pillar, local congestion etc. You may ask your neighbor and get some feedback from them.

  IMO, I would swap the modem at the most convenient time so I wouldn't recommend their stock model. HUAWEI modem should be fine if you only use it as a modem but the wireless is garbage (HG659 gets AC but I would not trust all-in-one setup). Generally speaking, the VDSL chipsets are about the similar inside those modems (NETGEAR, DLINK, TPLINK etc). You can bridge the connection and buy another AC router - this will be more stable as Modem + dedicated router will give you less headache in terms of overheating and routing power, etc.

  However, some of the users suggest that some of the RSP provider would force you using their modem, TPG is one of the example. If you bridge the modem or use 3rd party modem, you need to crack the VOIP logins inside their stock modem in order to get home phone working.

  PS: I used to get Cisco equipment (HWIC-1ADSL + 1941) for my ADSL line but until recently, I moved to modem (Vigor 130) + pfSense. I will keep my current settings when NBN is coming in my local area (FTTN Jan-Jun 2018).

  Also, keep in mind that wireless speed <not equal to> wired speed due to its half-duplex. Theoretically, a 300M wireless would equal to 150M in wired connections but again the real life performance never gets close. If you have a lot of wireless devices, a decent AC router is a must.

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    jackwoz on 12/06/2017 - 22:14

    Just a quick question. I am also running a pfsense setup with a billion modem that I've had for about 8 years. Il be getting nbn in a few months so will need a new modem. Is the vigor modem a particularly good one?

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      bjdchwr on 13/06/2017 - 16:47

      Billion is a reputable brand as well.

      Vigor is a good one but the Layer 2 VLAN setup is a mess for pfsense. It works well with their own router…
      I got a lot of kernel panic and I am now using it under the simple bridged setup (without VLAN tagging for IPTV)…

      Once I get time, I would give it another go - I just want to make IPTV working again…However there is no real benefit for NBN as they use different setup…

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    asianbargain on 13/06/2017 - 05:46

    They sell me that huawei for $180, and i thought if other modem can work the same way, i better off buy good more expensive modem because i heard huawei has crappy wifi strength. Thr family use lot of device so thr good one is much prefer. You mention bridge connection, how i do that ?

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      jackwoz on 13/06/2017 - 15:03

      +1

      When you bridge a connection it essentially means your modem/router becomes only a modem then you can use a router of your choice. Normally there is a much better selection of good routers than modem/routers.

      If your not technically minded, just buy a good modem/router, but as mentioned previously you have to make sure it is compatible with the NBN (VDSL2)

      EDIT: Somebody below has mentioned you might be on NBN HFC. This is alien to me and i dont know whether you can buy your own modem/router

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      bjdchwr on 13/06/2017 - 16:51

      +1

      If it is $180…. that's tricky…

      eBay only sells it around $130-ish…

      The only catch would be you need to setup yourself if you BYO. You can have a quick look at their website to see there is any manual or instruction available…

      Again for TPG (as an example) they only supply their own modem - you can use your BYO modem but you need to hack the firmware to get the VOIP credentials.

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  Cheeper on 12/06/2017 - 20:14

  +1

  "" I saw in whirlpool, they said Occom is good company. For me i alway saw iinet ads so its the only one i know""
  If you have been to whirlpool the you will know there are more isps than iinet…
  You will find all users complain about their isp … some are founded but most are caused by the end user.
  Speed requirement is dependent on what you intend to do whilst online?
  50mbps is adequate for most people…
  "" If i were to download 2gb movie, how fast it gonna go?""
  Depends on a lot of things… how slow / fast is your computer? that does make a big difference, what time of day or night are you downloading, how generous is your chosen isp with bandwidth provisioning, etc, etc.
  All being good… a 50mbps connection would be fine. If money is of no concern then go the fastest advertised connection you can find.

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  [Deactivated] on 12/06/2017 - 22:08

  +1

  Funny you bring this thread up as I was just thinking about the NBN and how many shitty companies exist out there
  After trying every company under the sun, only one has delivered true unlimited 100/40 for 79 a mont
  try the guys out at infinitytelco.com.au
  These guys are absolute legends
  Vocus Backhaul so you know you are getting the real deal :)

  Special on at the moment with a no setup fee 79 per month
  Also the only company on NBN who does a proper bonded connection and the local support is also awesome
  I am currently with them and on fast.com they show 93/35 during peak
  No complaints from me
  FTTP btw but mates on FTTN are getting MAX line speeds 24x7
  These guys don't oversell and from what I have seen of the CVC management they sort issues out BEFORE end users see them
  Sign up and be amazed at a company thats soon going to be the Skymesh and Internode of the NBN

  Any questions feel free to ask me

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    asianbargain on 13/06/2017 - 05:31

    Cheer. Will check it out.

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  mccarthyp64 on 13/06/2017 - 00:08

  If you're getting an HG659 from iiNet, you'll be on NBN HFC.

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    bjdchwr on 13/06/2017 - 16:54

    +1

    Good point.

    I suggest OP to double check with NBN Co. to avoid any of the financial loss purchasing the wrong modem…

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      asianbargain on 14/06/2017 - 07:44

      Dont want any fuss so i just order from them.
      Cheer for your answer

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        bjdchwr on 14/06/2017 - 18:25

        You can bridge the modem afterwards - if you get bored with the wireless :-)

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        asianbargain on 14/06/2017 - 20:12

        @bjdchwr: what bridge for ? Can you explain?

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        bjdchwr on 14/06/2017 - 20:17

        +1

        @asianbargain: In simple term, you can disable the routing function on this modem-router and use it under the modem-only mode, if you would like to buy a good router…

        My advise is to give the stock modem a shot and then make your decision :-)

        Good luck!