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This is a very high resolution Chinese tab that runs the latest Apollo Lake quad core processor. Got this in my Google feed today so I had to share.

Quoted from Tech Tablets

it’s got the Surface Book’s 3000 x 2000 screen in it and at 13.5-inches it’s a very large tablet that also supports an optional keyboard dock and stylus. It’s powered by an Apollo Lake N3450, 4GB of RAM and has an eMMC 5 spec 64GB flash drive for storage. Also Intel wireless AC which is much faster and has better range than teh old RealTek wireless N chip in teh Chuwi Hi12.

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Model Chuwi Hi13
CPU Intel Apollo lake Celeron N3450 Quad Core up to 2.2GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphics 500
System Windows 10
RAM 4GB DDR3L
Capacity 64GB eMMC
Screen 13.5 inch IPS Capacitive (10-Point) Screen
Resolution 3000 x 2000
Camera Front is 2.0MP,Rear is 5.0MP

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  • Savas on 30/05/2017 - 18:45

    Didn't you used to have a profile pic?

    • scrimshaw on 30/05/2017 - 18:47
      +1

      Yes, had to change my Ozbargain email address which also means I need to relink Gravatar.

  • freefall101 on 30/05/2017 - 19:17

    Weight of over 1kg is a killer, realistically unless you're using this as a drawing slate a lot you'd sit it in the dock most of the time, and most of the chinese tablet keyboard docks are pretty subpar.

    Screen looks amazing but with a lot of Apollo Lake laptops coming from Chinese companies with m2 slots (for a proper SSD that's upgradeable and more RAM) and keyboard included, it's a bit of a hard sell.

    • lostn on 30/05/2017 - 19:22

      Wow. That has to be a typo.. right? How can a tablet weigh over 1kg?

      • twocsies on 30/05/2017 - 20:28
        +1

        In the tablet's defence, it's 13.5 inches with a 10,000 mAh battery.

        Samsung Galaxy Book 12 is 754 grams. 13.5 inches is around 25% larger area. If it was simply scaled up it should therefore be around 950 grams, so 1.08 is only 10% above par.

        That being said, it's heavy for a tablet, but has the same configuration as an entry level "education" laptop. Lenovo used this CPU in the Yoga 11e (not available in Oz yet): http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/11e-and-chrome…

        • lostn on 30/05/2017 - 20:53
          +3

          When I think 1kg, I think a bag of Coles sugar. That's too heavy to hold for long periods of time.

        • shmahoo on 30/05/2017 - 21:29

          @lostn: sweet analogy bro

        • AlienC on 30/05/2017 - 21:32

          @lostn: for me I use baked bean cans roughly 2 and a bit is a kilogram.. 1 can is your average light weight tablet

        • Gravy on 30/05/2017 - 21:42
          +1

          @lostn: Maybe think of it like a 1kg bag of Woolies sugar.

        • twocsies on 30/05/2017 - 22:32

          @lostn: Personally I usually think of a one litre bottle. I don't think that a 13.5 inch tablet is designed for holding.

          That's why most of these size tablets, even 12 inch ones, have built-in stands? But the Hi13 has no built-in stand. It does have the (optional) keyboard, which can be attached at the back, as its stand.

        • lostn on 31/05/2017 - 00:59

          @twocsies:

          The purpose of a 2-in-1 is so that you can separate the keyboard from the tablet and hold the tablet in your hand when you aren't at a desk.

        • twocsies on 31/05/2017 - 06:20

          @lostn: That's what everyone was saying in 2013 but since then dozens of manufacturers have released 11 inch and above that weigh over half a kg. Apparently there's a demand for it. The Hi13 is not light for its size, and it's one of the largest tablets. The optional keyboard is also heavy.

    • scrimshaw on 30/05/2017 - 19:38

      Chuwi comes up with some pretty weird products, this is one of them. The new Surbook they announced too is also a surface wannabe, but with a Apollo lake chip I think it might disappoint those looking for a more productive work tablet.

      I'm personally just looking for a higher end Android tablet that runs a more recent version of Android 6 or 7, but Cube, Teclast and Chuwi are all seem to be competing in the Windows tablet space, with dual boot Android 5 as an afterthought.

      • lostn on 30/05/2017 - 21:05

        I just looked at that Surbook. I think they should call it a SurPro because it's a clone of the SP4 not the SB.

        As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  • lostn on 30/05/2017 - 19:23
    +2

    eMMC and Celeron. I dunno man. Everything's telling me this is going to be one laggy tablet.

    • mbck on 30/05/2017 - 20:08
      +2

      It will. It's like getting a BMW chassis with a…proton engine. Or lada engine.

      • Forfiet on 31/05/2017 - 12:35

        You got problem with glorious slav chariot lada!?! A nu Cheeki breeki v damke!!!!

  • britta on 30/05/2017 - 20:00

    Dont forget 4.50 % cashback from Cashrewards! :P

  • demiurge on 30/05/2017 - 20:09

    These things are wastes of money. You should just save a bit more to buy a surface pro 4. At least you will have a decent product that will last you a few years, whereas the Chuwi will be door stop in a month. They cut cost by using terrible quality batteries. Your tablet will get down to about 1 hour of battery time within a month.

    • MysticalWok on 30/05/2017 - 20:29
      +2

      The new Google Chromebooks (From Samsung) that runs Chrome OS is also a nice alternative the SP4 for those that like the Google ecosystem.

    • jonathonsunshine on 30/05/2017 - 20:57
      +2

      It's that a joke? Just "save a bit more" and get something that costs almost three times as much?

      • Jackson on 30/05/2017 - 21:43

        Save a bit more, by selling your a$$ on the street while hiding away money from your pimp without getting busted so you can have a better supported tablet.

        Sorry I think my meds just kicked in

  • MysticalWok on 30/05/2017 - 20:23

    Been under the rock with Intel tablet processors, is the Apollo Lake the next successor over the Atom Series? Or both completely different tiers?

    • scrimshaw on 30/05/2017 - 20:39
      +6

      The Apollo lake is basically a more evolved Atom. Though it has come a VERY long way…

      Prior to 2010, Atoms were found mostly in low power netbooks and nettops. They were pretty much the lowest-end processors available back then.

      In 2012 they went into servers as a low end option too but most importantly they also shrunk it down further to be used in tablets and phones, and that was also when Android officially had support for x86.

      Sometime in 2014, Intel decided that Atom had a really bad reputation on laptop computers and they decided that they would rename some of the better, higher clocked Atom processors to Celerons. So in 2014 we saw the first Celerons (disguised Atoms) in cheap small notebooks like the HP Stream 11. They were still far beneath the IPC of Core i-series. There were also Pentiums as well, which are essentially the toptier versions of the Atom chips.

      However, the current crop of full-power desktop Celerons and Pentiums are not based on Atoms, and they more like cut down variants of the Core series, and they lack stuff like Hyperthreading and Turbo boost.

      So what happened to the rest of the Atoms? The mobile-based Atom branded stuff continued to be sold to phone and tablet manufacturers, starting from 2013 (introduced Cloverview) to 2014 (introduced Bay Trail-T) and all the way to the present (Cherry Trail). This is the last and final Atom branded CPU's to be made.

      Since last year Intel decided to call it quits on making smartphone and tablet processors since Qualcomm and MediaTek turned out to be far more popular options and this pretty much meant that the Atom line is now 'discontinued'. Intel has no more plans to release anything Atom related now.

      • lostn on 30/05/2017 - 20:59

        That's right. So these Chinese OEMs are going to use the same 3-4 year old Atoms for their tablets that get a slightly speed bump and that is it. They aren't adequate for the purpose, yet they still making this unuseable crap since Intel has bailed. Instead of calling it quits with Intel, they keep pushing the same outdated tech into new products.

        Dual boot with Android 5 and neither OS has enough disk space to be useable. SD card does not support exFAT in Android mode. Internal memory not enough to even update Windows on some models.

        • scrimshaw on 30/05/2017 - 21:10
          +1

          Instead of calling it quits with Intel, they keep pushing the same outdated tech into new products.

          I think it's because of the huge oversupply of Intel processors that are still in inventory, maybe they're just using it up because it's so cheap and they don't have to pay top dollar for Qualcomm Snapdragon chips.

          Still I would like to see some decent, Pure Android 7.0 tablets. I guess the Chinese market really likes the Windows + outdated Android dualboot combo (weird).

        • AlienC on 30/05/2017 - 21:33

          @scrimshaw: you reckon it can run any gaming at 1080p haha lol?

        • Jackson on 30/05/2017 - 22:00

          I wouldn't equate Intel calling it quits with what they are doing, it almost sounds like you are blaming the Chinese manufacturers for using Intel's shitty processors and not Intel. It's not like Intel did a desert dump of their processors (like Atari did with their games) and these guys dug them out, Intel is more than happy to be undercutting the market to get some return on their investment.

        • Clear on 30/05/2017 - 22:14

          @scrimshaw:

          Still I would like to see some decent, Pure Android 7.0 tablets.

          Nothing too decent in and out of China at the moment sadly. Only the cheap OEM/ODM MTK tablets like this and this are being manufactured.

          iFive were showing some promise in the China, but they're only 6.0 or Phoenix OS.

        • twocsies on 30/05/2017 - 22:36

          It's not just Chinese OEMs. Lenovo also sells an entry level laptop with this CPU (in the US).

        • twocsies on 30/05/2017 - 22:41

          @AlienC:

          41 fps and 32 fps in League of Legends and Dota 2, respectively, with low settings and Full HD resolution.
          https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apollo-Lake-Kaby-Lake-for-Begi…

          Translation: Almost good enough FPS for a 12 year old.

        • AlienC on 30/05/2017 - 22:58

          @twocsies: I'm still mentally one so this is perfect for me then

        • lostn on 31/05/2017 - 00:50

          @scrimshaw:

          I don't think Snapdragon supports Windows 10? If they want to make a Windows tablet, they're pretty much stuck with Atom as far as I know.

        • lostn on 31/05/2017 - 00:50

          @AlienC:

          you reckon it can run any gaming at 1080p haha lol?

          Yes, solitaire.

        • lostn on 31/05/2017 - 00:54

          @Jackson:

          I wouldn't equate Intel calling it quits with what they are doing, it almost sounds like you are blaming the Chinese manufacturers for using Intel's shitty processors and not Intel.

          Intel did call it quits. You're right that they undercut the market and heavily subsidised their chips just to compete with ARM. It didn't work. Aside from CN OEMs and Dell, very few used their chips, and those products were being outsold by ARM tablets and phones. So Intel pulled out and have an abundance of chips to practically give away.

          Intel took a huge hit to their stock as a result of this attempt to break into mobile.

          They canceled whatever Trail was meant to come after Cherry Trail. And that was all she wrote for x86 as a mobile processor.

          It's not just Chinese OEMs. Lenovo also sells an entry level laptop with this CPU (in the US).

          Lenovo is a Chinese OEM.. Most of their smartphone range does not sell outside of the usual territories. I have never seen a Lenovo phone being sold here, or a tablet using Atom. Though I could be wrong on that one.

        • scrimshaw on 31/05/2017 - 01:13

          @lostn:

          If they want to make a Windows tablet, they're pretty much stuck with Atom as far as I know.

          Nope..! Windows is not x86 only. It runs on a Qualcomm SD SOC.

          https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/21/windows-10-arm-qualcomm-…

          Unlike Windows RT, ARM-based hardware running Windows 10 should support proper desktop-class apps. That's because Microsoft is building an emulator directly into the OS capable of handling Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Word, and other desktop staples. That's a big promise, but one that could change the complexion of the Windows 10 market if successful. For one, it'll be the same experience that Windows customers are used to — no strange amalgamation of apps and environments like the Surface 2. For another, ARM-based hardware should offer longer battery life, providing better options for people who need stamina more than power.

          Microsoft is targeting ARM. ARM is the next big thing in consumer tabs and cheaper notebooks and Microsoft would be silly not to make their OS compatible with it.

          Chromebooks are quite popular now, at least in the US and if Microsoft can make the full fledged operating system work on a Chromebook-type device at a low price point, it might disrupt the market quite a bit.
          The important thing to note is that the Windows OS runs natively in ARM, only Win32 applications are run in the emulator.

        • lostn on 31/05/2017 - 07:47

          @scrimshaw: Interesting. How well does Windows run on SD?

          If it requires an emulator to run Win32 apps, eh.. reminds of Surface RT. No thanks.

        • Forfiet on 31/05/2017 - 12:39
          -1

          @twocsies: tho…..Lenovo is chinese and they do sell some really cheap stuff in other markets….

        • twocsies on 31/05/2017 - 13:21

          @lostn: Nobody knows how well Windows runs on SD because it won't be introduced to the market until Q4 2017.

          That's why those articles say things like, "hardware running Windows 10 should support proper desktop-class apps." Because we don't really know yet.

  • RedSky on 30/05/2017 - 21:41

    With something akin to a tablet / laptop / phone where there's an umpteen components that can be of subpar quality or fail and cause incredible annoyance, I increasingly see the value of going with a local option, bearing the Australia tax but not having to worry about something failing.

    Tablets are probably borderline since there's not as expensive as a full laptop / phone but food for thought.

  • Jackson on 30/05/2017 - 22:04

    So the big questions, considering the screen in this, are what is the keyboard like and how far can you trust this battery (apart from if the proc is fast enough)

  • jonathonsunshine on 31/05/2017 - 13:17

    If you can put Android on this, would probs be pretty good

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