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LG V20 H990DS 64GB (DUAL SIM, PINK), $540.55 Delivered (HK) @ DWI eBay
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That looks like a different model - H990N
Wats the difference??
Basically speed - (4G+ LTE-A) 600 Mbps vs (4G+ LTE-A) 300 Mbps. Not a major deal-breaker but something to consider.
Pink or rose gold?
Do they make them for men?
They make them for everyone who has hands. And probably those who don't.
A real man doesn't care what others think of his colour choices.
you got my vote mate!
Thats an expensive bootloop.
There's a class-action lawsuit being filed against LG in California regarding the bootloop issue on the LG G4 and V10. The Nexus 5X, G5 and V20 were recently added to this lawsuit.
Didn't read the article yet but does a rooting and putting a different OS fix the bootloop issue? I have a Nexus 5 that I want to fix but not sure if putting time into it would be in vain
No it shouldn't fix it. A big part of the original issue was due to quality of the hardware components.
Spot on, the article mentions:
Among other things, the suit claims that the phones' processors were inadequately soldered to the motherboard, rendering them "unable to withstand the heat." Initially, the phones begin to freeze, suffer slowdowns, overheat, and reboot at random. Eventually, the suit says, they fail.
@Chimpus: I think this is a different issue to what I was getting on my N5. Essentially, I was stuck in the bootloop due to an update to lollipop 5.1.0
I think I found a solution/fix to it fingers crossed
https://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5…
Not saying this isn't a thing because it clearly is from all the complaints but i've had a V20 (dual sim) for 4 months and it has been fine touch wood
I have a G4, was working fine, a few days after the warranty expired, it started doing bootloop then died.
Luckily got it repaired for free, but now it's having phantom touches problem.
I'd say, no more LG phone for me!@BlackCaviar2016: Got mine back about 3 months ago and it was working fine until yesterday when phantom touches happened. Is this a new problem or its on its way back to boot looping again?
My G4 bootlooped 12 months 3 days after delivery. I assumed I was one of the lucky ones - turns out I'd have been luckier if it had bootlooped earlier. The fact that LG don't acknowledge that this is an issue, is why I won't buy an LG phone again.
@mouseman99: I think it's a different problem, not a new problem though. Something to do with the screen digitizer. I found out clear all the running apps seems help but not always, and it will eventually happen again.
Why is everyone acting like ACL isn't a thing? Just because it broke 3 days after the "warranty" period doesn't mean a thing. LG (or the supplier) still have to honour the warranty.
Directly from the ACL: Under the ACL consumers may be protected beyond the manufacturer’s warranty period without the purchase of an extended warranty.
still using my LG G4 from the Kogan ebay sale last year…12 months and 12 days but haven't experienced any issue so far.I might be lucky… Having said that I am still backing up the content just in case
yeah definitely… it packs a lot of phone for its price tag ($400 if i remember correctly)
Every time I warn people that LG phones have boot loop issues some clown or other votes me down.
My Australian purchased 5X bootlooped last week. LG insist I send it to them at my cost , I assume I will be without a phone for a good month. So much for Australian warranty. Never byying cheap junk ever again.
Here's my nightmare story.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/262073And a prior post
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/257006Every time I warn people that LG phones have boot loop issues some clown or other votes me down.
Is this available in men's?
I think they have one with that comes with daggers and skulls and flames on them.
Yes but it wouldn't suit you.
just looking into the V20 today, got burnt (figuratively) by the note 7 and discovered this phone, but now I hear of bootloop problems?
How long do I have to keep using my note 4 :S I got it when it first came out, it's already died once, been replaced, it's 2017 and I'm still on it!
If you can, maybe wait for the Oneplus 5 or Pixel 2?
I was going to hold onto my Note 4 until the end of the year but it got wet.What really attracted me to the v20 was the removable battery. Does the pixel 2 or oneplus 5 have that?
Removable battery is pretty uncommon now (unfortunately). LG are one of the few that make them that way. I don't think either of the phones you mentioned have a removable one.
What I tend to do these days is search for "<name of phone> teardown" and see how hard it would be to replace the battery in the phone I'm considering. A lot of phones that have a 'non-removable' battery are actually fairly simple to get at- just need to lever the back off and maybe remove a couple of screws.
An example of what I mean is the Nexus 5X. Technically the battery is non-removable, but if you check out a guide on how to do it, its actually fairly simple.
Where I draw the line is if there is lots of adhesive involved- I hate working with stuff that uses adhesive, means that you have to use a heat gun and there's a lot more mess / chance of breaking stuff.
@mr626: As mr626 said, both aren't phones with removable battery. If the Oneplus 5 is anything like the 3T it'll have dash charging and a decent battery.
I think anything that is water or dust proof won't have a removeable battery (and I expect these two phones to be water and dust proof - we'll see)
could be looking at the last flagship with removable battery as a feature, considering the new LG G6 doesn't have that.
The thing is, it is possible to make a phone that is water/dust proof AND have a removable battery. It's been done before- the old Galaxy S5 is one example that comes to mind.
I think the non-removable battery thing is more about making the phones as thin / sleek as possible. Personally, I'd much rather have a phone that is slightly thicker / heavier but more repairable, but I guess that isn't what most people want.
/rant ;-)
buy a Huawei Mate 9, enough to last 2 days. much better than swapping your battery every half day.
@mr626: I agree with you but that is probably their idea as well. That they probably don't want people to repair, they just want people to buy whenever there is a minor issue with it more money for them.
NO BAND 28
why would you buy thisThe v20 I bought from DWI eBay has band 28.
Same model as been sold at JB.Huh? It lists Band 28 in the specs (doesn't actually say Band 28, but it lists 700hmz under the 4G bands)
i believe there are a few bands that use the 700mhz spectrum (band 44 i believe is one of them) so even if they are listed, it does not necessarily match the one used in AUS
That may be the case (I'd be interested to see if there are any phones currently that fit this category).
However in this instance, the 700mhz listed does indeed mean band 28. The particular model variant is a Taiwanese model, and they use band 28 just like us here.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/countries/taiwan
See here for the breakdown of the difference between models:
Would have purchased this if it had a strong camera.
whats wrong with the camera ? from what Ive read its right up there with the best including the new gen LGs and Samsungs
He wants a camera that can bench 100 Kgs.
From 6 reviews that I have read they state:
"colors had a tendency to look washed out… low-light images looked muddy at times."
"The super-wide-angle lens is not as great — there's a lot of flare in the corners when you're shooting anywhere near the sun, and because the sensor has half the resolution of the main camera you do notice the lower quality after you've snapped a photo."
"Disappointing camera performance."
"can be over exposed"
"In our experience, it isn’t particularly skilled at making regular on-the-go shots…"
"Again, the wide-angle effect is awesome here as well, but the image quality is only passable."
Found another 3 reviews that said the back camera was pretty good. The others not so much.
I saw many pics, wasn't overly impressed with it. In daylight, it looks on point, but some images weren't as crisp.
I actually don't have a problem with the V20 camera… but I'll get to it in a moment.
Having used both the Pixel and the V20, I feel that the Pixel has better image software but the V20 has a better camera. I think most people don't really consider who the V20 is targeting. It's got a really great camera and a really great manual photo and video mode so you can capture in RAW and tweak in post quite well. On the other hand, the Pixel has really great software and features for taking auto shots and videos.
The other thing is that the wide angle camera is pretty much useless on anything other than perfect lighting conditions so I wouldn't recommend choosing the V20 for that feature.
That being said, the reasons why I choose the V20 are:
* Video on the V20 is amazing. I took it skiing using a water proof case and the videos are amazing for a phone. I use it with a gimbal but you have to be aware that this is a really big phone, it might not fit all phone cradles and might need some extra hardware to get it to fit.
* The sound recording is probably the best I've heard from a phone. Even when comparing to the Rode Video Mic Pro etc, I think the V20 can hold its own weight. Especially when you use the HD recorder or the manual video settings, you can start to get some really great sounds from your video. I do some foley work with audio and I find that the HD recorder is good enough for most cases when I don't have anything else.
* 2 SIM cards and a micro SD card. I like that I can have both cards in while having another 128GB of storage for when I go out for videos.Things that put me off the V20:
* I bought mine from JB HiFi and the sound card on my first phone died after a week. Sure I got a replacement straight away but I would be wary of grey imports. That being said, I haven't had any issues with mine since and I've probably treated it pretty badly…
* The battery life is really bad. Especially when you consider all the great features of the phone, if you decide to use them you'll run out of battery really quickly. I also don't think the replaceable battery is a big plus for me since they don't sell an external charger (in which case I'd probably have a few batteries much like I would with DSLRs) so I tend to just have an external battery charger. With normal use, I'm lucky to get a day's worth of use but at least the charging is stupidly fast.Some things that I'm neutral about:
* Wide angle camera. It's great for when the day is good but terrible otherwise. I do have a lot of nice wide angle videos though so I can't complain.
* Front facing camera is also pretty wide angle. I guess it's a good thing but I don't take many selfies.
* No water/dust resistance was a bit of a bummer considering the Japanese version has it but I just got a case for it and it seems to be working.
* Lack of Quick Charge 3.0 devices in Australia. Probably will come out soon but do wish I had a QC3 car charger.
* I don't really use the 2nd screen that much… sometimes it's useful but I wouldn't notice if it stopped working.That said, if you like having DSLR/mirror-less features on your phone, then the V20 is a great phone. It's a great substitute for when you don't have your mirror-less (unless you need crazy zoom) but otherwise, I think other more mainstream phones will be a better investment.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
Awesome, thanks for the input.
Good point on the grey import, what if it comes and it's faulty?
Otherwise, looks like a good phone.
JB has a great no lemon return period. My first G4 was replaced under that on the same day. Once you're out of that they treat you like dirt. Here's my story on the second return.
My old note 4 has a better camera then the V20.. not sure how you can say the camera is any good when its a modern phone.
@samfisher5986:
Going by specs alone, F1.8 vs F2.2
Shutter speed and aperture controlThat's enough for me to get excited about the V20 over the Note 4. Megapixels might be the same but I don't like having too many megapixels on such a small sensor — you end up getting too much noise on higher ISOs. I'm not entirely sure how the Note 4 has a better camera but I didn't really get to play with a Note 4 for much so I'm open to other opinions.
I think the issues with the V20s photos are from the auto settings on the camera. I mean, if you manually set everything, you shouldn't really be complaining about colour balance or exposure.
[edit] If you want to get the most out of your V20, you HAVE to use manual mode for photos and videos.[/edit]Video wise, I felt that the V20 does a lot better than the Note 4. I have to admit that I got the V20 purely for video. I also had a look at the Moto Z with the Hasselblad module but that was a massive let down. At the end of the day, for me it was between keeping the V20 or the Pixel for photo/video, I went with the V20 for the manual settings. At the time, I felt as though those two were the best (after considering the Galaxy S7 Edge, iPhone etc too).
One other phone I've been playing with recently and quite impressed for value is the Oppo R9 Plus. Really great camera for the $550-600 price point. Sometimes makes me regret $1100 on the V20…
Except I've tested the camera and it does poorly compared to my note 4, especially in low light situations. There is plenty of evidence online as well.
The oppo also has a very average camera.
Its important to remember that a lot of phone manufacturers have average cameras these days.
If you wanted to know about a phone manufacturer that actually has a good camera but uses bad software/settings, its Sony. Not LG.
3G/4G on Sim 2?
Is the 700Mhz Band 28?
Free Bootloop?
After sale customer service and Warranty?Cashrewards won't work with the coupon.
Yep, had many of my Cashrewards rejected because of coupon codes. Sucks!
Can include other colours? The black seems to be only $5 more.