Apple iPad for My Toddler

Hello I'm after a apple ipad to buy for my toddler who always uses my phone to play games and watch YouTube

These will be the main reasons to buying a iPad unless there is a cheaper device

Can anyone help me with this
I have no idea where to look or what's best for my toddler

Comments

  • +2

    I ended up just getting an optus plan with a boatload of data and a tablet to data pool so my daughter can use it on long trips and not use all the families data.

    One tbing I will say is don't let them on YouTube imo, we found she was moving from video to video kinda like 'searching' and watching kids basically be little sh*ts. It's just as bad on youtube kids. After a very short amount of time she was acting the same way as the videos, we moved youtube and youtube kids, no she just watches on the ABC kids app and plays a few games.

    She's nearly 3 but they pick up bad habits really quickly. Just my 2c

    • Totally agree with this post, the amount of ridiculously bad home made videos aimed at children with like 50 mil views and subliminal MacDonald advertising etc is disgraceful. I'm looking at you Ryan's toy review. Abckids is excellent.

      I really like the tablet when you need a no fuss distraction when you really need to get something done without making an extra choir for your self like cleaning up or

      I think a lot of neck beards commenting here dont actually have children. Giving a child some crayons to draw with unsupervised can go horribly wrong very quickly. Same with puzzles! Even on the simplest ones they get frustrated if not supervised and then you are worse off then you started!

      • Yes I've seen the terrible crayon accident videos on u-tube

    • My kids watch garbage too much for my liking as well, but I also get them to watch science and math videos.

      If you bought trashy romance novels and smutty magazines would you blame reading for the kid emulating that behaviour too?

      Also you can discuss what makes the behaviour bad and help shape some of their thoughts on what they're watching. If the only input is "hey this is cool" of course they'll be brainwashed. If you temper that with "Hmmm that was silly and dangerous and there's reasons not to act that foolishly" it's a different story. Youtube isn't a baby sitter.

  • +6

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • +3

    For everyone against iPads for kids, you clearly haven't used some of the learning and educational games that are available.

    Sitting in the pram playing games that let them use their brains to solves puzzles and games is far better imo than trying to keep them entertained with a stupid stuffed toy.

    Obviously moderation is key.

    • +4

      Better for who exactly…

      • +1

        The kid who learns problem solving, the parents who can focus on what they need to be doing while child is in the pram, the whingers in the restaurant who thinks kids shouldn't be allowed because noisy but simultaneously shouldn't be quietened with an ipad…

        • -3

          Tell yourself that as much as you want, everyone knows it's not remotely true.

          Which is not to say I'm being overly judgemental and saying it's something you can't do if you need a break etc - I know I would have completely lost my sanity if it wasn't for distractions like this, just don't pretend it's for their educational benefit…

        • +1

          @callum9999: Whose pretending? It's mutually beneficial. Those educational games have done far more for my toddlers numeracy than I could have with a set of flashcards. The assumption nearly everyone on here is making is that the OP is replacing their parenting with one, which I think is unnecessarily cynical. And if I'm telling myself a lie, then call me deluded, but I'm not pretending anything.

        • +1

          @MissG: I think it can be both, but it really depends on the child and the many variables associated with technology that have already been discussed. The screentime recommendations are probably erring on the side of caution because the impact can be very negative.

          From what I could gather from the original post and subsequent posts from the OP, is that they almost reached a breaking point where they were sick of their toddler using their phone and wanted to substitute it with an ipad. It did come across as a bit of a "white flag" post, but I'm sure every parent (especially mothers) reach this point many times due to mental and physical stress of raising kids.

          Most people here have the opinion that the root cause of the issue is a toddler shouldn't be spending that much time on a phone or ipad in the first place (and that is a valid point), but if they are not on a phone or ipad, they obviously need to be doing something else and the OP just may not have thought of other things to spend doing or occupying the toddler's time with, which is why some people have suggested some alternatives.

          The people "judging" the OP I would guess don't have kids or perhaps have older kids so forget how hard the early years are (not that I'm looking forward to teenage years with my daughter from stories you hear!)

          I empathise with the OP as it is not easy to raise a toddler (as I've mentioned in other posts).

        • @John Kimble: I don't think anyone can assume the root cause of the OP being at their wits end. They could be a single parent, they could have a sick partner, they could have a partner working unconscionable hours, there could be any number of variables leading to need to use the phone a lot. A lot of people see a kid losing their mind wanting a phone and think "aha! I see the problem! It's the phone! They use the phone too much, that's why they're misbehaving!" But it's more likely than not to be a symptom of a problem that no one has any idea about. In another post I suggested the OP have a read of the American College of Paediatrics guidelines for safe screen use. I think support and direction has far more value than judgment by people who don't know the OP and have absolute zero idea what is happening in the background, it doesn't help the OP at all.

        • -1

          @MissG: I do think you're delusional but it's clear from the OP they aren't doing it for education - hence ipad "to play games and watch YouTube", not one of the numerous educational alternatives.

        • @callum9999: Good thing it's me that's delusional then and not them then ;)

        • @MissG: Why would they be delusional? They want an ipad as a distraction for their young child, which is exactly what it's great for? Though even if we were to pretend it's an education tool I still don't think getting young children hooked on technology is a good thing - regardless of your kid no doubt becoming a maths genius who still prefers active exercise and socialisation.

        • @callum9999: There's that lack of faith in humanity again - who said anything about getting children hooked on technology?

  • +4

    Laura - assuming that your toddler is at home or somewhere Wifi is readily available. I'd suggest an Android device (you don't pay the premium you do with Apple) - with wi-fi only connectivity - toddler shouldn't really need 3g/4g.

    You can pick up a cheapish Android tablet for around $100 or less. Here are a couple of options:
    https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/lenovo-tab…
    https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/pendo-pad-…

    Android is similar to Apple and you'll find the same games & Apps you find on your iDevice. Android is cheaper generally and you can get the Youtube Kids app plus any games you want from the Google Play Store (similar to the App Store).

    To reiterate what others above are saying - your toddler doesn't need an iPad ;) The above Android devices will do exactly what an iPad does and you don't have to pay more for it - once you use it you'll understand. I have a near 4 yr old and luckily he doesn't use a tablet too much…. cars, balls & TV are enough for now.

    Go to your local Officeworks & see these for yourself.

  • +4

    Long list of stuf my parents got for me when I was a toddler:

    Peter and Jane books (hand me downs lol)
    Etcher Sketcher (chinamade $3)
    Children's piano keyboard (with preset songs and beats yeahh :3)
    Batman figurine (badass)
    Barbie dolls (the one with wings gets an A+++)
    Winnie the pooh plush (not even original merchandise yo)
    Crayons (in those days, the washable types weren't around yet…)
    Pop pops (no, they don't actually have the capacity to burn your house down despite being classified under firecrackers)
    A cassette tape of children's songs (I used to play that shit all day and sing to it, my favourite was my grandfather's clock fyi)
    A remote controlled race car (to which I tied winnie the pooh on top and sent him ard the house terrorizing)
    Once a week on the TV to watch Spiderman/Spongebob/TMNT

    Oh, and before I forget: a good beating if I don't behave and disturb the shit out of them or anyone for that matter.
    Its one thing to run ard the house screaming, its another to do it for an hour straight.

    kthxbai.

    • +1

      Thank you :)

    • Hahaha that made my eyes water. Have a +1.

    • News flash: It's not the 70s or 80s anymore, Batman.

      What worked for you won't work the same way for your kids. It's a different world.

  • +9

    Your iPad doesn't need a toddler

  • +15

    Tell him to get a damn job. I'd already been working in a woodchipping mill for 5 years by the time I was 3

  • +1

    Wasn't April Fools day last Saturday? OMG - just put the t.v. On. How & why would a toddler ever need a phone or I Pad?

    • +1

      Errr, are you really suggesting TV over an iPad?

      Neither are good, but it doesn't get much worse than TV.

      Doing real stuff with real tangible things is the far better option.

      Get them a toy kitchen with pots and pans and all that jazz, a trampoline, a bike, some paint, a tree to climb, some dirt to dig in, some hammers and nails for them to play with…

      It's actually perfectly healthy for your kids to be bored too. It allows them time to think and reflect and absorb their environment etc, and can give them incentive to find things to do and discover new things etc.

      So many better things to give a toddler than an iPad or TV access.

      We do allow them in our household but they get very limited use - it's a "sometimes" thing, not an everyday convenience.

  • +1

    P.s just to stir the pot abit more my toddler is

    2 years 2 months :)

    • +12

      Thank you for those who wrote good advice and didn't quickly judge me

      For those who laughed and wrote stupid comments
      Next time you want to judge a person look at yourself firstly

      No one is perfect

      Cheers..

      • +15

        Hear! Hear!

        I don't pretend to know exactly how hard it is to stay at home with a toddler all day everyday, but it must be bloody mentally and physically exhausting. They are too young to leave unsupervised and are constantly wanting attention and/or stimuli because their brain demands it. I don't blame the OP for trying to find ways to get a bit of a break!!!

        I only experienced a taste of it staying home with my daughter last week and I already feel like I need a holiday. I still didn't do all of the chores my wife used to do when she was staying home like vacuuming, mopping, cooking etc I have no idea how my wife did it for over a year. I think a strong support group helps, she still keeps in contact with her mother's group via Whatsapp and they meet up for dinner every now and then to swap war stories, complain about husbands and let their hair down.

        Do you have any family or friends who can help you out every now and then?

        The only other tips I can give you:

        • Top Ryde shopping centre has an awesome free play centre for children. It won't help you get your chores done, and you still need to supervise your child, but you might get a bit of a breather if you take him there every now and then.

        • It is a bit exy ~$60? But there is this soft book called "Cute Educational Toys Quiet Book" that my daughter loves. She can play with it for 30 minutes non stop…sometimes she asks for help though. We got ours at Kirribilli Market, but I'm sure you could find other places to buy them

        • Childcare or the internet can also help you with ideas on how to make other cheap play things with common leftover items? e.g. Empty toilet rolls, yogurt containers, even a big plain cardboard box can be fun for a toddler!

        • Sometimes you can get really cheap quality wooden toys and similar (<$10) at markets, charity places, facebook buy/swap/sell groups.

        OP, a tablet is not the end of the world if used sparingly/properly. "They" recommend zero screentime, but my personal opinion is they do so because they know people will give in sometimes, so setting it at zero means people might only allow 30 mins or 1 hour a day vs 2 hours or more if they set it at 1 hour. Technology is a part of today's society, so they do need to learn how to use it eventually. No one is perfect and there is no one correct way to raise kids, so just use your best judgement and you should be fine.

        Keep up the good work!

        • +4

          I appreciate the time you took to write this post
          Thank you very much xx

        • +1

          Her child is in day care 3 days a week, hardly all day everyday parenting.

        • +1

          @robbyjones: I concede I did forget about that, but I was also speaking generally and about my wife.

  • +5

    Let him crack the screen on a $500 iPad then come back here and ask your question again.

  • Kind of a sad post

    • In what way?

      • -7

        A mother not having the time of the day to care for her child.

        • Some of us have jobs

        • +2

          What about the father?

        • That's such an unfair comment 'canyoudoitcheaper' :(.

  • -6

    Your an iPad need toddler doesn't lol

  • +1

    Your toddlers doesn't need an iPad lol

    Try again when the iPad Air mini minuscule oxygen 13 comes out

  • +3

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • -6

    Your toddler needs an iPad lol

  • +2

    Buy the cheapest android tablet available.
    It's so excruciatingly slow and sluggish, neither you nor your toddler will ever use that tablet.
    Toddler can then go back to doing what a toddler should be doing and you can go back to doing what a parent should be doing.

    Problem solved.

    And, btw , your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol.

  • +3

    Your toddler needs an iPad pro.

  • +1

    People bite at these blatant bait posts time and time again…

    "what car should I buy for $80k with a $20k salary??"

    "I crashed into someone and it's obviously my fault, how can I get out of it?"

    "Is it unethical to shoplift?"

    "help me dispute this speeding fine, I was only going 20km/hr over, I just didn't know I was breaking the law!!"

    Every time they hit popular with people outraged for pages upon pages.. When will everyone learn?

    • Yes but stuff like this is sadly reality

    • I don't think it's clearly a bait post. I have seen toddlers with iPads, you really don't think someone would ever buy one for their kid?
      At least this one is a straight forward answer. Other threads about morals have required a lot of discussion while this one doesn't.

  • Please shoot me now, I don't want to live in a future filled with iPooed babies! 😣

  • -3

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • +5

    We have an old second generation ipad that my toddler uses, it's great, she knows the alphabet and can count to 20 thanks to the games and knows a lot of nursery rhymes thanks to Youtube. I would strongly recommend getting a secondhand version and reading the American College of Paediatricians guidelines for children and screen use, the new evidence is that short supervised periods are fine. Especially if you interact with them while watching.

    I would also try asking the question on the Essential Baby forum to avoid the views you've bumped into on this one ;)

    For the rest of the commenters for the love of god have some faith in your fellow man!

    • +1

      MissG, forget that pediatricians recommend iPad use… there's a crap tonne of other 'experts' here happy to pass judgement and guilt parenting decisions because it's fun. 200 plus votes for the first comment is a sad state of affairs :(.

      • +1

        Oh yes, consensus achieved scientifically derived fact isn't fact anymore, it's an opinion just like anyone elses. Even if no one has any expertise in the area. Expertis shmexpertise!

        • +1

          Alternative facts?

        • +1

          @John Kimble: Yeah. And #fakefacts. Humanity wasn't ready for social media.

  • +4

    We bought our kids an IPad mini each. They're both under 5 years old. They're not allowed to use them a lot, maybe 30 min or so a day.

    There are some really great educational apps that our kids love - lots of puzzle/problem solving ones. Some number and alphabet games too.

    They do watch You Tube (KIDS VERSION) and like selecting different topics that they're interested in (like spiders, cars, rabbits).

    As long as they're playing most of the day outside or with toys I see no problem in a small amount of time on an IPAD.

    PS. Please get a tough case! I've walked outside to find our child walking over the top of theirs (luckily it had a decent case on it)

  • -6

    These are the people raising children in 2017… oh goody.

    • +1

      yep, and kids who don't use tech early will be left behind at school because they can't use technology. It's the future. Like you used pen and paper, today's children use technology.

      • -1

        What does that have to do with it? I'm talking about Apple products for a toddler.

        • +1

          It has everything to do with it.

          And "Oh goody" there are a lot of terrific educational and entertaining apps specifically for toddlers these days. But no, passing judgment from up on high (and from the stone age) is much better isn't it?

          And damn straight… this IS how people are raising children these days! With technology.
          Get a grip on that and understand that if in moderation it's a terrific way to assist in a child's learning.

          Or I'm guessing nothing is as good as the good old days amIright? Technology is bad mmmk. It's the source of all evil.

        • @UFO: Way to miss the point. Who are you even arguing with? I didn't say that.

  • +4

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • get an ipad, let Apple raise your kids up for you.

    predicting the future
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w73CC0swX24/VZLycd83iZI/AAAAAAAAHO…

  • +1

    Lol. Troll question deserves troll answers.

  • +2

    Serious answer. I brought a samsung tablet for myself, and found they have an excellent kids mode app. It allows you to restrict usage to only the apps you aloow, doesnt allow purchases and you can set a time limit. You can only leave kids mode once you enter a pass code.
    Perfect for your kid if you pair with educational apps - fischer and price have a lot of good baby apps.

  • +1

    Go the iPad mini. There are some great apps and kids need to be familiar with technology.

  • +1

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • +1

    Your toddler doesn't need an Ipad.

    I call troll thread lol.
    Except sadly it's not too far off reality; all the little kids these days who just poke on the phones and tablets.

  • -1

    Your toddler doesn't need an iPad lol

  • +2

    Get an android tablet - he's a toddler, so the cheapest nastiest one will be fine and make sure to put parental locks on it (Google is your friend there).

    Also, invest in a decent case to protect it.

    I don't understand the trolls in the thread, hit 25 the other day, maybe I'm just too old to meme now.

    I also don't really care if it's a troll post…took me 20 seconds to give valid advice. People these days…

  • Don't get an Android if your toddler is like mine, and random pushes things on the screen. Apple has the awesome feature of locking down certain parts of the screen, so they can't get out of an app or press the home button. You can also restrict a lot of apps that you don't want them to accidently use, like the app store or safari.

    Also, invest in a kid-friendly cover, if they drop it, it won't smash the screen.

    • +4

      Here is the feature. It's called guided access. Basically, you can restrict the iPad to only use one app, or disable certain parts of the screen. Really is a must for toddlers.

      https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202612

  • Just get one of the cheap kids Android tablets which already have rubber bumpers.

  • +1

    If you want to create a technology addicted zombie with zero motoric development, zero attention span and probably a less functional retina then go ahead and give a glass screen display based technology device to your little one. If you are a troll, go away!

  • My girl's sisters just turned 3 years old and had iPads since they were 2.

    It's a quick way to destroy the iPads and frustrate yourself the whole time trying to get them to use one correctly. At that age they much prefer to play with toys that they can physically manipulate/destroy rather than press non tactile buttons on a 2d screen.

    That said they do use them here and there and like the apps that tell interactive stories, but they are too young to read or write so they don't really get anything else out of them.

    The parents are smart enough to not allow 3 year old kids access to youtube without supervision, OP should consider this also.

    It's much better for them to learn the code of real life (manipulating physical objects) for their development at that age than it would be to manipulate computer code. Save that for upper kinder/prep when their minds stand a better chance at understanding the world around them rather than the world inside the screen.

  • -2

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying an electronic device for your child IF you use it responsibly. 173 + another 108 votes at the time I'm writing this for "your toddler doesn't need an iPad"??? How many of you need as many eneloops, torches, phones, WIFI dongles, sim cards and various other gadgets? So completely over the bullying the voting system affords. At least the positive votes aren't anonymous.

    By the way a tablet is a pretty reasonable device for a child to get some interaction and is much better than the TV if used well. No one would blink twice if someone was buying a TV to entertain their child. Blaming technology for a poorly raised child is missing the point entirely.

    And guess what? I can't stand Apple and wouldn't ever buy an iPad. That doesn't mean I'm going to make someone who wants one feel like garbage for it.

    • -1

      If you want your child to have "interaction"- a screen, no matter how expensive, is not the way to do it- particularly at that age.

      • +2

        @Ahbal - wrong wrong wrong!
        The screen is not a REPLACEMENT to interactive learning with the parent, it's in addition to.
        It's a way the parent can assist the child learn and have fun.

        @syousef - exactly right! What's with all the shaming and guilt into enquiring iPads for kids?? It's completely unfair.

      • +1

        I don't think you understand the word "interaction" and I don't think you appreciate the access the technology gives you to knowledge about the world around you.

        • -1

          Yes, but the average toddler is barely aware of their own bodies let alone the people around them (mine has started to smack her head like a retard sometimes because apparently she is frustrated when she can't communicate verbally…this is apparently normal according to childcare!)

          Introducing an iPad to a toddler to "gain knowledge about the world around them" (I feel) is too soon. More for older children IMHO.

          Controlled use on age appropriate learning apps and music/videos for toddlers, that is entirely different.

          I think some people here may not realise the huge impact too much "screentime" can have on kids < 3 years old vs > 3 years old (and it has been researched extensively).

        • @John Kimble:

          There are plenty of kids games that provide knowledge appropriate to their level. Your child can learn to read early, learn some musical rythm etc.

          Why do you assume that the OP is going to have "too much screen time" because she wants to buy the child the iPad?

          There are also plenty of studies about the positive effects of giving learning games to toddlers, so you're being selective. I'm sorry you feel it's too soon, but if you have to say "apparently according to child care" you're not an expert on the subject and shouldn't be judging the OP.

        • @syousef:,

          Yes I know there are some good apps out there, but there are many more bad ones.

          I've never said I'm an expert. I doubt anyone can call themselves an expert at raising kids; and if they could they probably wouldn't be an OB member.

          If you read my other posts I feel I didn't "judge" the OP (sorry if you think so); but like everyone does in these forums made some assumptions based on the limited information provided.

        • @John Kimble:

          So install the good ones. You absolutely did judge to say that you feel its too soon until the child is 3. This isn't your child.

        • @syousef: Not judging; passing on the recommendation made by "experts".

          Introducing an iPad to a toddler to "gain knowledge about the world around them" (I feel) is too soon. More for older children IMHO.

          If you are referring to this above comment was specifically in response to your post (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/4586795/redir)

          It isn't my child? How do you know? Did you just make an assumption based on limited data?

          FYI I have admitted in previous posts I let my toddler use an iPad…I'm not really taking a hard stance or taking sides. Have you read any of my other posts on this???

        • @John Kimble:

          You misunderstood. OP's child is not your child. You don't have any right to determine that it's too soon for the OP's child.

        • @syousef: I did understand. I was making a point/joke which is: How do you know the OP's child isn't my child? Did you just make an assumption based on limited data?

          Obviously I don't have any right; but again, it wasn't directed at the OP or the OP's child if you are referring to the following comment "Introducing an iPad to a toddler to "gain knowledge about the world around them" (I feel) is too soon. More for older children IMHO."

          That had nothing to do with the OP's child, but children in general (I know the OP's child falls into "children in general", but that's not the point). It was a direct response to your post where you oddly stated to "…access the technology gives you to knowledge about the world around you." This makes sense for older children and adults, but IMHO not toddlers (in general); and that is just my opinion.

        • +1

          @John Kimble:

          Leapfrog is a decent company when it comes to educational children's tech. They have a book reader for ages 1-3
          http://www.leapfrog.com/en-au/store/c/_/N-1z141wl

          Their Leappad tablet is for 3-9. That probably has to do with the content and durability of the device.
          http://www.leapfrog.com/en-au/store/p/leapfrog-epic-7-kids-t…

          I've seen an 18 month old using an iphone menu to select, start, close, back out of, and swipe between pages. My son wasn't interested in speaking too much until he started wanting to say the names of the trains in "Thomas the Tank Engine". At age 4 both my children had seen Saturn and Jupiter in a telescope. My son had memorised and had a rudimentary understanding of Newton's laws of motion that he could demonstrate by giving examples. I was watching "Stargazing Live" last night and some of the astrophotos of star trails and solar corona presented were taken by 8-12 year olds. I don't doubt they had some assistance but the ones interviewed on camera could explain what they've done.

          Here's what an 11 year old can do.
          http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/adolescent-ast…

          We don't give children enough credit, and we do them a great disservice by limiting their passions.

        • @syousef: BTW I'm not saying there are no benefits to screen time. I'm just saying there are plenty more negatives, especially for toddlers under 3 and especially if not monitored. This has been extensively researched.

          Babies and toddlers need to interact "serve and return" with people in real life to learn how to socialise and pick up on non verbal cues. More often than not this is not possible with screens.

          In the seminar I went to about early learning development, they compared two photos of brain cells and the one of the child that used screens excessively was much less dense. An extreme example (and I don't know all the details or conditions of that particular experiment), but nevertheless very concerning.

        • @John Kimble:

          Again, Your assumption of "not monitored" is insulting. We're not talking about throwing a tolder in a room with an iPad and no other stimulation for months on end. We're talking about a mum being lambasted over asking what to buy her son on a bargain forum.

          Links to the research please? You should know better than to be concerned by an uncontrolled result with sample size of one.

        • @syousef: Not sure why you are taking me on for that; I don't feel I've done any of that. If you feel I have I'm sorry and I apologise to the OP if they feel the same also.

          Unfortunately I didn't note down the specific study that slide of the PowerPoint referred to.

          These articles (although not the actual research papers) summarises most of what I'm referring to in general (just not specifically the brain cell thing I saw).

          https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/behind-online-behavior/…

          https://breakingmuscle.com/learn/wired-kids-how-screen-time-…

        • @John Kimble:

          We are in agreement about excessive screen time and using the screen as a babysitter being bad. Where we may disagree is on moderate and supervised use. The articles you linked to aren't saying that moderate use is bad.

        • @syousef: Pretty sure I agree with you on that too.

  • +1

    Buy Duplo or Megablocks (Big chunky ones for toddlers) and you can upgrade to Lego when your toddler grows up a bit. Just an idea.

  • +1

    All the "Your Toddler doesn't need an ipad" comments have no idea what they're talking about. Seriously.

    I'm sure Laura is a great mom that will manage her kids time with the ipad.

    Anyways the best deal right now is the new iPad (called the 'iPad') for $469. I'd get it at the official Apple shop or website because there's stress free returns if you don't like it for whatever reason.

    It's the easiest tablet to use and the most fun. And if you have an iphone already you can use the same apps on your ipad (most of the time).

    • +1

      Exactly right!

      I'm actually really disappointed with the OzBargain crew on this. Thought there was a lot more maturity here than this. They are a terrific learning aide and it's the way education is going. Clinging onto the past out of nostalgia is only at detriment to the child when it's already expected that they have a basic grasp of such things even in the very early school years.

      • The literature strongly recommends not for kids 2 and under. That is the main issue here. 3, 4, 5 onwards, it can be introduced incrementally (if you follow their guidelines).

        • +1

          Ok, I'll bite. Show me your sources.

          My boys- both 3yo, LOVE the toddler apps available. One has a speech issue, and there's a particular app RECOMMENDED BY HIS SPEECH THERAPIST that has helped him over the last year immensely. Both started using at 2yo.

          Of course, like ANY activity good parental supervision and control is required (I don't just give the kids 24/7 access!) but the notion that iPad's are not good for 2yo is laughable.

        • +1

          @UFO:

          It's the first hit when you google it:
          http://raisingchildren.net.au/articles/screen_time.html

          Yes and that is perfectly fine; I am not arguing that point and if you read my other posts I in agreeance with you; as long as it is supervised, for short periods and with quality content.

          It's just the OP posted they want it mainly so their toddler stops using her phone "for games and youtube"; didn't come across as for educational purposes (not that it has to), but I think that is why people reacted the way they did.

          FYI - My daughter loves a few apps on the iPad too; she is 16 months. It's like ice cream. She loves ice cream too, but you can't give it to her all the time.

          Whenever raising kids is discussed, there will always be differing opinions and conflict; just like religion and politics haha

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          @John Kimble:

          Point taken John.

          I'm just really pissed off at the unfair judgement passed down on the OP here. It's really hit a nerve. It's so hard to be a 'good parent' these days, without the morons here making it harder.

          I just read your previous posts, and yes I agree. Just some of your later comments struck a nerve is all.

        • @UFO: No worries, everyone is doing their best and there will always be trolls and/or people who say stupid stuff (especially under the cloak on anonymity online); plus it is sometimes hard to determine tone in these online forums also.

          Just last night, I saw a post on FB, cutest little baby eating food with lots of enthusiasm and some people were commenting that she needs to move to solids…some people took the comments as negative and it started a bit of an argument. Just appreciate the cute video!

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