What Is The Deal with Sunscreen?

Seems like all the suncreen these days have switched to a new non-greasy formula, non-greasy spelt U-S-E-L-E-S-S

I need some of that thick white sunscreen! The type your mother used to embarrasing slather all over you, and you'd spend 5 minutes rubbing it all in so you didn't look like an albino. This new stuff is too weak, and too hard to see where I've applied it to already.

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  • +2

    Buy from a pharmacy/chemist not a supermarket and you will have higher quality options.

    • Thanks, I'll check there. Any recommendations on brands?

  • +2

    Have you tried the sports sunscreen from Cancer Council? Needs to be rubbed in for quite a while. Supposed to withstand sweating up to a certain degree. It actually works quite well.

    • +1

      Is that what you use? How light is your skin, because my ass is a4 paper white lol

      • +2

        Yes. Our arses could be brothers haha

        • I lolled at this harder than i should have.

          Thanks Gents, for making my morning.

  • Why not just use Margarine?

    • OK I'll bite, why Margarine?

    • +1

      It's poor people's butter.

  • +1

    There's different types of sunscreens btw, eg. physical, chemical. Maybe the feeling/look of being covered in white grease is a placebo effect?

    • Quite possible, yes, but until I know more about the chemicals involved I will remain suspicious about the chemical stuff. I don't know much about sunscreen or the chemicals involved, but I know about marketting, and I know that an inferior product can displace the status quo if people like it better, regardless of its effectiveness. I've read a few news reports of sunscreen failing lately, from Banana boat and Cancer Council and everyone basically, and people ending up really burnt.

      Another idea I was considering was face mask mud, I think that would do a good job haha but I need to find a cheaper source for it than $1 packs.

      • +1

        If you're putting sunscreen on your face, you're putting chemicals on your face, including the white greasy ones. Physical vs chemical is more about how the sunscreen works to protect you and to suit your preference.

        Skincare/beauty products are definately heavily marketed, but like with most products, you're not just paying for the active ingreidient. You're also paying for the features eg. post application feeling, texture, easy of application etc.

        https://www.choice.com.au/health-and-body/beauty-and-persona…

        Another idea I was considering was face mask mud

        Just put a paper bag of your head, Shia Labeouf style. Cheaper and reusable.

        • +1

          Yeah, but the chemicals work differently. From what I've read, the old ones form a reflective barrier, while the new ones work by converting UV to heat. Different mechanisms, different risk profiles.

          Just put a paper bag of your head

          Couldn't find any paper bags in my pantry, will plastic do?

        • @outlander:

          What you described is an example of physical vs Chemical, ie. "Old" vs "new" even though there are many new sunscreens that are "old" (physical).

  • +1

    I hate oily greasy sunscreen. I much prefer dry and water resistant stuff.

    • Oily greasy sunscreen is the most water resistant.

  • I get goose bumps when putting on greasy sunscreen.

    • Me too, feels like I'm covering myself in toad mucous, but I'm sure if you walked down any oncology ward most all of the patients there would chose to live covered in grease everyday for the rest of their lives if it got rid of the cancer. That's what it's all about

  • We find banana boat good. Very thick and stays on even when in the water. Not cheap though but reliable.

  • Here's something funny. I found a promising sunscreen, called Blue Lizard Australian sunscreen
    Zinc oxide based
    Suitable for sensitive skin
    Long lasting

    but when I look for stores selling it, only US retailers come up! lmao so much for "Australian sunscreen"

  • +1

    Woolworths Clear Zinc
    Invisible Zinc (when it is half price of course)

    • How much is it? That's another one I was looking at. COTD has it 2x 75g for $15

      • +1

        Invisible Zinc 150g is ~$15 half price
        Woolworths Zinc ~$9.5 100g, but have got it $5-6 on clearance sale (changed look) and (rarely) half price

  • Okay, I found that you can buy zinc oxide powder at $20 for 500g, enough to make 2.5kg of sunscreen. Just need to mix it with a transport agent like coconut oil or some other thicker oil, and it should perform well. There are hits all over google if you search 'diy sunscreen'

  • The "news" about sunscreen not working has been show as incorrect I believe.
    The main issue has been incorrect application of the product and relying on it as the only skin protection.
    Sunscreen is the last line of defence.

    I use ego Sunsense sensitive invisible. They have a non-invisible version as well. I previously used Cetaphil Suntivity.
    Most of the natural sunscreens in Chemist Warehouse are zinc oxide based.

    I guess my main question about making your own sunscreen is water & sweat resistance.
    Will you just end up applying it 2-3x/hour which will end up costing the same as a Cancer Council sunscreen that lasts 2-4 hours?

    • A good point. I'm using it while tanning to cover the darker areas in my case, so the water and sweat resistance is not as important

      • I'm fairly conscious about the long term consequences of skin damage. You did mention Oncology patients earlier, so it sounds like you are too.

        Please think of the below suggestion as.. practical and safe =) ..

        Cover all your skin with sunscreen and wear a shirt that has holes cut out so the dark bits are still covered.
        I don't think sunscreen stops people from tanning. Just slows down the risk of burning.

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