Hi,
I am looking to buy a mid-range DSLR
I was looking at some Nikon D series on gumtree, d7000 in particular and found them interesting.
Came across this one - Canon 1300D
Do you have any suggestion as to which one is better? Canon or Nikon.
And are 2nd hand cameras good enough? Or should I go for a brand new with two years local warranty
Any advice is highly appreciated.
Thanks
I had the pleasure of handling a D7100 briefly while I was selling my Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G to a gumtree girl.
It's a very solid camera and ergonomically it works out quite well. However, I was distressed by the lack of focus points, and while it was good at capturing people on the street, it's still a massive slab of a camera body. It didn't take too long to work out the camera tbh.
I just wouldn't see myself carrying it around in a backpack or daily worker-bee manbag. It'd likely sit at home and be a waste of money.. Would that happen for you too??
I highly recommend staying away from Sony due to the cost of their lenses - the other cameras recommended above would suit you perfectly though.
You can also consider something smaller again, like the sony rx100 mk3 or fuji x100s or fuji x100t, or fuji x70.
Those are great little fixed lens cameras that deliver great performance, although I'm not sure where they sit regarding your budget.
I think the omd em10 mark 1, or maybe even the mark2 would be within your budget constraints. There are many reviews online and you can go into your local camera store and try to negotiate them down.
Thanks I am fighting a battle between these two at the moment. With the 20% off EBAY. i am more confused.
http://cameradecision.com/compare/Nikon-D7100-vs-Olympus-OM-…
I'm a fan of smaller cameras. Lighter, and far more discrete especially for street shooting.
If you have the same thoughts, then the two lenses you can look at getting in the future as per your upgrade path:
The f/1.8 prime cover you for low-light shooting, where a wider aperture of f/1.8 or f/1.7 assist with gathering more light.
The 1240mm f/2.8 pro zoom is a very well reviewed, very sharp fast standard zoom.
Check out the images on Flickr to compare:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/olympus_om-d_e-m5_mark_ii/pool…
https://www.flickr.com/groups/nikond7100/pool/
Bear in mind that these are taken with a very large variety of lenses, but they show off the abilities of each body.
@ankor: Very informative. I am looking to buy this - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/296869 comes with 2 lens kit. Will this be good for sky shots?
Night sky shots where you are getting stars and the milky way are usually a little bit harder with a mirrorless camera vs a DSLR, but not impossible.
As I don't take many night sky shots, I'm probably not the best person to answer.
However, you can google m43 astrophotography and m43 landscape photography and review the results, including images and techniques listed there.
If you are near to the digitalcamerawarehouse store, you can go in and have a chat to them. The guys over in Annerley Brisbane are very friendly and very nice to deal with.
edit: here's an example post:
https://robinwong.blogspot.com.au/2015/04/an-epic-weekend-ad…
http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/astrophotography_tips
https://www.mu-43.com/threads/landscape-astrophotography-wit…
Better selection of lenses in both the olympus and nikon stable. I have the a6000, and that's a great little camera.. Nex6, unknown to me.
What is your budget?
around 700-750
I recommend looking at mid Range DSLRs the are second hand, definitely get better quality to start with….
It's true what they say about the lenses making the camera rather than the camera body. Buying a Nikon SLR was a "no brainer" for me in 2011 as their SLRs were better priced than Canons, the quality similar and the Nikkor Lenses rumoured to have the edge over Canons. I got a D3100 which is the budget line, it has served me well, the only niggle is Nikon removed the auto-HDR capability from the 3100 to encourage people to buy the 5100. I'm not sure if Nikon continued this practice in later models.
I got a telephoto 55-200mm lens and a prime 35mm lens (both Nikon). The standard 18-55 lens seems to gotten some recent damage as the inner barrel wobbles now causing one side of some photos to be slightly fuzzy.
The thing I miss on mirrorless and high performance compacts is the wonderful shutter sound. That satisfying click of the shutter and the mirror opening and closing.
Also the optical view finder is nice, cant beat an EVF. If there's an EVF, I always find myself using the LCD instead, like on my RX100M3 or my old olympus EPM-1 with EVF.
I'll always like to take out my D600 and click away :)
Canon 7d mk 1 if you don't mind the weight. Also, don't go after kit lens as you'll hate them very soon. Look for better lenses.
One thing to check when buying second hand is to check camera shutter count. Upto a couple hundred thousand is the Max you wanna bet on.
If you want to take night shots often, do not get mirrorless. You just can't focus as well as looking through the viewfinder.
Cheers
if you go dslr, and if you go canon, check out magic latern, custom firmware for many canon dslr that rocks..
thanks, will do. But mostly looks like I will opting for Nikon.
Body = not so important
It's all about lenses.
Canon vs Nikon? Both the same, just get what your friends have (easy to swap lenses, etc).
If you end up liking the DSLR, you're likely to end up with several bodies, but your lenses you'll keep for ever.
Did I mention lenses? It's all about lenses, that's where I'd be putting my money.
As other posters have mentioned, I'd go for some second hand kit (Canon 5D mk1 or mk2) - you won't regret it!
Sorry but it's all important.
The body provides
- Focus which is either going to hit or miss
- Focus tracking which will be fast enough for what your shooting or won't
- A sensor which either is grainy or good and produces nice accurate colours at decent resolution or IQ that is garbage.
- Comfortable controls that let you take the shot in time or horrible controls that miss it altogether.
- A decent accurate screen that lets you judge exposure, colour, focus, or it doesn't.
It ALL matters. The weakest link - lens or body - will make your results worse than they should be. Sure you often keep the same lens between bodies. But the body matters, especially if you want results that keep you motivated.
I wouldn't recommend a particular camera body without knowing exactly what the OP is shooting. A 5D is an expensive first camera and the older models won't do much better in low light than newer entry level models.
Sure, so is the battery.
But when choosing between any modern mainstream DSLR the body is going to have little influence over the photographer's ability to capture a shot or the quality of that shot (subjective nature aside).
The abilities I listed vary wildly between DSLRs. (It also depends how modern you're talking - a 5DMk1 is 12 years old!!!).
I wouldn't try to shoot sports, motorshow, airshow with A D3400. The AF won't cut it.
I wouldn't shoot low light with a D90 if I could choose a D5500 instead even though the D7200 is current successor of the D90 line (via D7100 and D7000).
If you think the body doesn't matter you don't shoot in a very wide range of conditions.
And in fact those lower end bodies don't work with the older screw motor focus lenses on the Nikon side. You need to go D7200 or one of its predecessors.
Depends what you are shooting.
My partner and I shoot food photography and decided to get an entry level DSLR. The Nikon D3300 proved to be the best option for us. We bought the body and a zoom lens 18-55mm for $450 from JB HIFI.
Subsequently we bought n AFS NIKKOR 35mm lens (equiv of a 50mm) for $250 which can go as low as 1.8f aperture. Perfect for food.
We recently purchased a 11-20mm wide angle lens for travel photos and we love everything about it. Can take some amazing photos, soon to be posted in our travel guide. This lens set us back $600 though.
Word of advice, you can take really good photos with any DSLR. The higher end you go, the more expensive you are looking. Have a think about what your needs are and buy accordingly. If you are looking to take this as a hobby and photograph landscape etc, or perhaps even commercially with wedding photography etc.. then I highly recommend buying a full frame camera and spending the money up front. It is really hard to upgrade later on, we have been wanting to upgrade to either the Sony A7ii or a Canon but thinking about the cost of it all is putting us off. Besides, the D3300 is also very light weight and perfect for our need.
You can have a look at our posts on www.snapshotsoffood.blogspot.com if you want an idea. Just note only the cruise travel guide was photographed with the D3300.
Hope this helps!
wow, nice pics.
Thanks for ur time.
Another thing to consider in the entry level of cameras, be it mirrorless or full size DSLR's is weatherproofing.
All the cheaper entry level bodies and lenses are not weatherproofed, so some kind of hood if you're going to shoot in moist conditions and a good bag with rain jacket
Easy to say I just won't shoot in bad weather but if you're out on a trail or there's something you just have too capture, the temptation can be high
one of the fastest moving industries! I bought a Nikon D3300 on special. Endless megapixels that seemed to be an unbeatable deal. Needed it as a penis extender to show the brand name and to make a loud click. Perfect for that. But Nikon made sure that they can still sell their upmarket models.
In practise I see many happy Fuji mirror-less snappers. Panasonic 4k models walk the streets in gymballs making 4k movies. New 360 deg eyes doing miracles…
Easy to bury stacks of cash so you need to get a chain of gear to suit your needs. I would never take my 3300 near any professionals. Its output really wants post processing.
I know happy Sony sans mirror users but their service department would scare me.
Depending how much you have to spend also budget your pc and software to process. Some folks are wrapped in new "bridge" class cameras, no more lens changes with a few trade offs of course. Light is also crucial for your shots, generally the more glass and money you pump in the more you will see.
Happy shopping.
Not sure if you are still looking for a camera, I have a Olympus OM-D E-M10 up for sell, check the link below and see if you are interested to get it.
https://carousell.com/p/like-new-olympus-om-d-e-m10-m-zuiko-…
Not sure if you have made a decision. I couldnt find if you had answered this, but, why do you want a camera? Are you just trialling photography, or is it a serious hobby you wish to pursue? I only ask because, depending on what you what to accomplish with your camera, a bridge camera (fixed lens) could be a better choice.
I have an RX100Mk1 which I use (you can see what the camera can achieve here (some are with a Galaxy S7): https://www.instagram.com/reddstedd ) because ultimately, its not the camera, its the photographer. Im only now just looking at a interchangeable lens camera. You need to think, do you need full frame? Crop sensor, or micro 4/3? Any camera you buy, you are buying in to an ecosystem, so maybe even think about future upgradeability. Canon and Nikons are good because most of the lenses can go on to their better cameras if you ever decide to upgrade the body. However, if you do decide to eventually go mirrorless, then they dont really offer a genuine option (Canon M5 might be ok). That is why the A6000 is so popular. The lenses can attach on to a full frame A7 (albeit at crop) which offer flexibility. There are so many pros and cons of each camera, maybe let us know what you want out of one. For me, my needs are:
Cheapish - micro4/3 or crop sensor, probably second hand
Portable for travel - mirrorless
Useable video - Sony or Panasonic
Fast lenses - Sigma, Fuji
Cheapish lenses - Sigma, Sony
That comes to the A6000. Honestly, I would love a Fuji XT20, but I just cant afford it. Im not looking at the DSLRs because theyre so heavy to travel with. However, you can get really good picture quality out of them for less than a mirrorless setup.
I recommend ricoh GR II or I . Just have fun with the shooting instead of focus on gear
Thanks to everyone who helped me decide. I settled with Sony A6000 from Ebay.
Love the Ozbargain community!!
Thanks for your time. At the moment, i meet these requirements
- using the camera on a daily basis as a 'street tog' - use a smaller mirrorless like the omd em10mk2, fuji xt10
- taking the camera to family gatherings as the family tog - mirrorless again
- want a small traveller and am going to other cities - get mirrorless again
But later down the road I want to take night shots and want to make a food blog.
I am thinking of going for d7100.
Do you suggest anything better.
I had been eyeing this 20% ebay deal for buying the cameras. Any suggestions would be useful. Thanks again