[WA] Free Travel on Perth Trains - Transit Guards Will Release Fare Evaders Who Refuse to Provide Personal Details

His_Holiness on 22/02/2017 - 09:05
Last edited 22/02/2017 - 09:06

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https://thewest.com.au/news/perth/free-ride-for-fare-evaders…

Commuters could get away with travelling on Perth trains free this week — by refusing to provide their personal details if they get caught without a ticket.
The West Australian understands that transit security officers have been ordered to release — immediately and without penalty — all fare evaders who refuse to provide the details.
It comes after a Supreme Court ruling last week that the security officers do not have the authority to arrest commuters for refusing to divulge personal information. It creates a potentially ludicrous situation where fare evaders who provide their personal details could face a fine, but those who do not escape without penalty.
Public Transport Authority lawyers are understood to be working with the State Solicitor’s Office to resolve the issue “within days”.
The West Australian understands the directive to guards also applies to evaders who supply false details.
Arrests can only be made if a police officer or a railway special constable is involved.

Would only work for trains since bus drivers can refuse you entry if you refuse to buy a ticket. Otherwise refuse to give your personal details and travel for free.

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  • Vodafail on 22/02/2017 - 09:07
    +17

    Not sure if OzBargain or OzLoophole

    • JudoChop on 22/02/2017 - 09:21
      +8

      OzCrim.

  • LJV81 on 22/02/2017 - 09:17
    +2

    Not worth the risk!

  • JudoChop on 22/02/2017 - 09:19
    +9

    If you don't pay for your ticket, it's theft, plain & simple.

    • kolorijo on 22/02/2017 - 09:24
      +4

      and you will get JudoChopped!

      • JudoChop on 22/02/2017 - 09:26
        +2

        Maybe even a double judochop.

        • carwashhair on 22/02/2017 - 09:38

          Only if you clone yourself

        • ausdday on 22/02/2017 - 10:20
          +2

          you meant JudoChops ?

  • kingmoron on 22/02/2017 - 09:23
    +18

    in other news - cheap food at woolies. scan everything as carrots

  • bashar20 on 22/02/2017 - 09:26
    +4

    Transit Guards can call the police and they can force you to pass your details.
    Fare evasion is a crime and not fare for others that pay for their tickets.

    • sauron256 on 22/02/2017 - 09:29
      +7

      "not fare"

      I see what you did there!

    • jjjaar on 22/02/2017 - 10:12
      +1

      Yes but transit guards cannot hold you against your will until the police come.

  • twocsies on 22/02/2017 - 09:27
    +4

    They should take photos of the perpetrators and post them online. To take down your fare evasion mug, just pay the fine.

  • retiredfeline on 22/02/2017 - 09:30
    +1

    They should just confiscate the card and evict the evader at the next station.

    • Davo1111 on 22/02/2017 - 12:12

      implies they have a card

      • retiredfeline on 22/02/2017 - 12:13

        Then just do the second part. Simple.

        • Davo1111 on 22/02/2017 - 12:14

          yeah, thats the really the only thing they can do. Evict them. I suppose they can get on the next train, but an inconvenience.

        • retiredfeline on 22/02/2017 - 12:16

          @Davo1111: BTW the original court case was brought up by someone with an expired card.

  • Yapapi on 22/02/2017 - 09:33
    +2

    Would have to travel to Perth… pass

  • hal9000 on 22/02/2017 - 09:35
    +3

    that's a steal!

  • sween64 on 22/02/2017 - 09:35

    It's a crime, don't fare evade.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/02/2017 - 09:39
    +1

    This isn't a bargain. It's theft. Anyone caught not paying should be forced to stand too! I paid for my seat fair and square, they didn't.

  • mathew42 on 22/02/2017 - 09:40
    +1

    Evading fares means that public transpurt utilisation figures fall resulting in fewer services and more expensive fares. The more people who travel by public transport the more frequent services and the cheaper it becomes to operate on a per trip basis.

    • universe on 22/02/2017 - 09:45

      Not the case with Opal in sydney but it sounds like a nice concept.

      • mathew42 on 22/02/2017 - 09:52
        +2

        Even with Opal's fare structure the number of people catching public transport still influences public policy.

        With a bus / train the cost difference between running a bus for one passenger or 40 is neglible because you need to pay for the vehicle, driver and energy. However if figures show that only one person is riding the service, then it is a candidate for elimination.

  • Mixhael on 22/02/2017 - 09:42
    +1

    I got a small ticket last time I got caught. It's fine with me

  • isys on 22/02/2017 - 09:43
    +11

    Theft is not a bargain. what's wrong with people these days.

  • somecat on 22/02/2017 - 09:45
    +1

    A satirical 'deal' against the ridiculous Supreme Court ruling?

  • inherentchoice on 22/02/2017 - 12:20
    +1

    Fare evaders need to pay their fair fare or else they are being a parasitic burden not paying their share.

  • eve on 22/02/2017 - 23:44
    +1

    Thank goodness for the sensible people here.

  • woodwa on 23/02/2017 - 09:34

    This happened in NSW years ago. Bye Bye Transit officers… Hello Police..

  • nzthunderboy on 23/02/2017 - 15:18

    At the end of the day, if they are not paying then someone is.. and that someone is you.. yes you.. tax payer. So if you commute, pay your fair "fare" share. Thank you.
    The only people I have no love for are the banks. They are bloody crooks. Exploitation of financial system.

  • robbo135 on 23/02/2017 - 19:10

    How is this a deal?

    Is it also a deal if I put a post claiming free 2nd hand car provided you can break into and hotwire a car?

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