Apple ID for school kids...

[Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 16:59

My child is going to start high school this year and iPad is a requirement at the school. I went to the iPad setup session at the school and while doing it, we were told that the child needs to have their own Apple ID.

However, as my child does not turn 13 until later this year, and for other kids in the same situation we were told to just select a birth year that will make them 13 on that day, so everyone selected a year earlier than the actual birth year in order to create the Apple ID.

My question is whether it is legal to do it and what kind of values we are imparting in the kids - just lie to work around restrictions.

In my opinion, if the kids are not 13 don't force iPads on them until they reach that age.

Poll Options

  • 5
    Allow bypassing the restriction to use iPad.
  • 25
    Do not introduce iPad until kids reach the age of 13.
General Discussion

Comments

  • Sergeant Salami on 30/01/2017 - 17:03
    +6

    Family sharing is your friend. Setup your child under your account so you can manage their account.

    http://www.apple.com/au/icloud/family-sharing/

    • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 17:05
      +1

      When my child was at primary school, the iPad was setup under my Apple ID. The secondary school rejected the idea of family sharing forcing us to create a new Apple ID under the kid's name.

      • Sergeant Salami on 30/01/2017 - 17:08
        +3

        Well I work in an school as an IT admin and basically I can't see what the problem is with family sharing. The only thing it will stop your child from doing is purchasing paid apps however you'll get a notification saying that they want to download a paid app and you can approve it or deny as you like. You also get the ability to restrict content which is great.

        • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 17:11

          I am well versed with IT and was surprised that a lot of people who used a shared iPad in the family were told to create new Apple IDs under school provided email address for the child.

        • Sergeant Salami on 30/01/2017 - 17:15
          +4

          @ms:

          The problem is that normally it is the eLearning staff that pass on information to the parents and they have no idea. I'd set your child up with their own apple id and add them to the family. If this doesn't work for them, just remove them from the family sharing and make them over the age of 13. The reason why they ask to use a school provided email is that if we need to support the child, we can easily help them reset their apple id as we can always get access to their school email to help them reset their apple id password. You'd be suprised the amount of children/teachers that forget their own personal email address passwords/apple id account details.

      • Randxyz123 on 30/01/2017 - 17:09
        +1

        The entire point of family sharing is that they will have a Apple ID it's just managed by the parents. In other words they'll get a approve/reject notification if the child tries to get a paid app.

        Are schools really this bloody useless that they don't know how to use the features apple provides for this reason?

        I don't get why you wouldn't let a child use a iPad because they were under 13. That is just stupid.

  • geek001 on 30/01/2017 - 17:05

    Try setting up Apple Family Sharing. My kids are in primary school and their school only runs iPad classes, ie. every student in that school has to have an iPad.

    • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 17:06

      Things are different when kids reach secondary.

      • geek001 on 30/01/2017 - 17:10

        I am not sure why/how things are different? With Family Sharing, the kids have their own AppleID and password, the only difference is that if they want to download an app, they have to ask for permission from the main account holder, which is my wife.

        • Sergeant Salami on 30/01/2017 - 17:15

          Only for paid apps I'm pretty sure.

        • geek001 on 30/01/2017 - 17:19
          +1

          @Sergeant Salami: I think there is an option to turn that on or off. The reason I know this is because I restrict my kids to only 3 games on their iPads. They have to ask for permission if they want to download a new game, even if it is free. :)

        • Sergeant Salami on 30/01/2017 - 17:23
          +1

          @geek001:

          Ah cool. I wouldn't recommend that for the child at secondary school as they will most likely be asked to download apps to assist their learning.

        • geek001 on 30/01/2017 - 17:53

          @Sergeant Salami: Thanks, I am hopeful that I have taught my kids enough to self control themselves by the time they get to high school. Not likely, but I am an eternal optimist. Lol.

  • altomic on 30/01/2017 - 18:11
    +1

    Under the Federal Electronic Devices Act (2007) you can be fined up to $750 for falsifying a date of birth for an apple ID.

    Um, that was sarcasm.

    Seriously, what does it matter? Create an ID so you can activate the icloud lock if required.

  • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 18:17
    +1

    Does Apple not let a 12 year old who is turning 13 create an Apple ID?
    Surely it should be the birth year and not the birth date.

    How do I find out which schools use ipads and which don't?

    I don't want my nephews and nieces going to places where my siblings have to buy/rent Apple products. A pen and paper served me fine.

    • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 20:04
      +1

      So did textbooks, these devices are taking the place of many of them.

    • jelko on 30/01/2017 - 21:22

      My grandma used chalk and a black board. It served her fine. Should my kids be subjected to the same way of learning. NO!

      • [Deactivated] on 30/01/2017 - 22:54

        Should my kids be subjected to the same way of learning.

        Yeah, but most Australian children are failing on an international level, so you do whatever you want.

        • [Deactivated] on 31/01/2017 - 06:13
          +1

          I think it's because nothing is taught in schools. The schools don't teach things like maths, English, science etc. It's not a wonder that the kids are falling behind international levels. On top of that, making iPad compuslary for primary school kids is doing more harm than good.

  • mintysaurus on 30/01/2017 - 18:22

    If your child loses access to the account somehow, will having the wrong year matter? If it's not going to impact recovery (after you've spent money on apps and whatnot) then it's probably not a big deal to lie about the age.

    I do think you should just do what others have suggested though and do the family access thing.

    • [Deactivated] on 31/01/2017 - 06:14

      Don't think it will matter much in regards to recovery.

  • nakahanap on 30/01/2017 - 22:09
    +1

    I'm quite surprised that the school is advocating lying about your child's age and committing fraud.

    There are plenty of schools (primary and secondary) which ensure the apps and websites they use as part of their teaching and learning do not have the "13 years or over" requirement. Some even report students for using them out of hours.

    The only time I could see the benefit of a "new" account is if the apps the school wanted to use required a .edu email address to access/access for free (which would have the other benefits @Sergeant Salami mentioned).

    I'd go with the family sharing option, myself.

    • [Deactivated] on 31/01/2017 - 06:18

      I think the ability to create one without credit card details is one of the factors. I will contact school to find out more about the family sharing option.

  • gconboy on 01/02/2017 - 23:44

    If you only have one iPad/iPhone then family sharing can't be done as the parent can only approve app requests from the child via the appstore.

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