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Xiaomi MiJia Electric Scooter M365 $530USD Shipped ~$710.89AUD @ Aliexpress

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Initially found it on banggood but saw a cheaper one on Aliexpress.
Price shows $535USD but a $5USD discount is applied at the checkout.

Its a very clean scooter that does not look like an electric scooter at all.

Impressive range of 30km
Max speed 25kmh
100kg max weight
Phone app compatible, log distance, speed etc
Built-in front and rear lights as well as side indicators
regenerative braking with rear disk brakes (supposedly has ABS)
IP54 protection (Protected from water spray from any direction)
Motor is 250W so for 'offroad' use strictly speaking
5hr charge time
no band 28

Combine with the upped rate from cashrewards for a $63ish cashback making the buy price $647.76AUD (at the time of posting)

MOD EDIT: be aware of the legalities of an electric scooter in your area, they're not considered the same as a 'pedal assisted bicycle'. The penalties fall inline with driving an unregistered/uninsured motor vehicle

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  • [Deactivated] on 29/01/2017 - 13:14

    Meets australian electricial and safety standards?

    • xoom on 29/01/2017 - 13:17

      Was thinking the same thing. I thought there was strict regulations regarding the in built baterries on these devices. Hoverboards and electric scooters. Many not passing the safety standards so cannot be imported to australia.

      • Clear on 29/01/2017 - 13:18
        +6

        Many of them can be imported into Australia. It's just illegal for an Australian business to sell unapproved devices.

      • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 16:54
        -2

        I thought there was strict regulations regarding the in built baterries on these devices.

        What are these strict regulations regarding the batteries you talk about?

        Many not passing the safety standards so cannot be imported to australia.

        What testing is performed and by who? Who stops these from coming into the country?

        • xoom on 29/01/2017 - 17:07

          As clear stated above. Australian businesses cannot import certain devices that do not comply with australian standards.

          I didn't realise you can import them as an individual however. In saying that. Don't think its a good idea to be buying these things that dont comply with australian safety standards.

          There has been hoverboards where it has caught on fire because they likely did not comply with australian safety standards.

        • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 17:16
          -1

          @xoom:

          As clear stated above. Australian businesses cannot import certain devices that do not comply with australian standards.

          That is not what clear said. He clearly stated that you can import but not sell which is the case. Your claim is bollocks.

          I didn't realise you can import them as an individual however. In saying that. Don't think its a good idea to be buying these things that dont comply with australian safety standards.

          Why isn't it a good idea? These meet the safety standards overseas which are often the same as ours. Believe it or not but Australia is not special, electricity works the same here as it does in other countries.

          There has been hoverboards where it has caught on fire because they likely did not comply with australian safety standards.

          Bollocks, they caught on fire because the products were poorly made and the owners neglected to charge them in a safe environment.

        • xoom on 29/01/2017 - 19:05

          @Maverick-au

          That is not what clear said. He clearly stated that you can import but not sell which is the case. Your claim is bollocks.

          So when a business imports these but cannot sell them. What good would they be to a business? I thought thats what business operating to make a profit do. Sell stuff.

          Why isn't it a good idea? These meet the safety standards overseas which are often the same as ours. Believe it or not but Australia is not special, electricity works the same here as it does in other countries.

          Ok then. Lets rephrase. It's nice to know that these meets safety standards that are equal to or better than Australia's. Which leads us to the next point.

          Bollocks, they caught on fire because the products were poorly made

          Poorly made products likely dont comply with safety standards. Yes there are exceptions. Looking at you note 7.

        • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 19:43
          -3

          @xoom:

          So when a business imports these but cannot sell them. What good would they be to a business? I thought thats what business operating to make a profit do. Sell stuff.

          Because businesses import things all the time and do actually sell them without them being checked to see if they meet any standards. The federal and state government stopped testing pretty much everything a long time ago.

          Poorly made products likely dont comply with safety standards. Yes there are exceptions. Looking at you note 7.

          The sample may have met standards or the supplier gave paperwork saying they met standards or the retailer purchased them cheap or a combination of these. The end user cannot rely on something to meet standards or be safe, they need to educate themselves in how to identify counterfeit products if buying name brand goods or unsafe products if buying yumcha brand. In the case of the "hoverboards" people were stupid for charging these devices in bedrooms or other areas adjacent to flammable goods while unattended. Just like only stupid people would charge model car/plane/boat batteries in the house.

        • xoom on 29/01/2017 - 21:00

          @Maverick-au:

          Because businesses import things all the time and do actually sell them without them being checked to see if they meet any
          standards

          Can't speak for all business but it should be in ones best interest not to import things that could result in litigation for selling things they shouldn't be. Or worst sued because someone got injured as a result of buying and using the product that should not have been sold in australia.

          The end user cannot rely on something to meet standards or be safe, they need to educate themselves in how to identify counterfeit products if buying name brand goods or unsafe products if buying yumcha brand.

          So your expecting every parent to know all these. Why do i see time and time again. Kids riding bikes and scooters without safety gear like helmets all under the parents supervision. Sometimes as a business you just have to do the legwork in terms of making sure you sell safety compliant products because you cant trust the aca/today tonight watching masses to do all that themselves.

          In the defense of yumcha brands. Not all are landfill material only. There are some gems there too. This is where certain websites come in. Ozb being one of them.

          Just like only stupid people would charge model car/plane/boat batteries in the house.

          Serious question. Where is one suppose to charge these?

        • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 21:16
          -2

          @xoom:

          Can't speak for all business but it should be in ones best interest not to import things that could result in litigation for selling things they shouldn't be. Or worst sued because someone got injured as a result of buying and using the product that should not have been sold in australia.

          It happens all the time, we have weak laws in this country and retailers being in rubbish. Look at the number of sales that companies like Edisons sell on eBay, a lot of their gear is unsafe.

          Target sold fake Revlon make-up for example.

          So your expecting every parent to know all these. Why do i see time and time again. Kids riding bikes and scooters without safety gear like helmets all under the parents supervision.

          Because in today's world you can't rely on others for your safety. Same parents leave their kids outside without supervision and expect the pool fence to keep them safe.

          Serious question. Where is one suppose to charge these?

          The lithium packs should be balance charged in a suitable flame resistant bag inside something like an ammo box outside or in a garage and be supervised.

          https://youtu.be/k9mcNvOGKtI
          https://youtu.be/gz3hCqjk4yc
          https://youtu.be/iX1MdkSU56M

        • macrocephalic on 30/01/2017 - 15:29

          @xoom: Those hover boards didn't comply with Australian Standards AND caught fire, not because of. They were cheap and nasty no-name devices. Xiaomi are a big company who generally make decent quality products. Although, Samsungand Apple proved that any device can have problems with lithium batteries - even when it's an expensive device from a well known company and has passed Australian Standards testing.

        • xoom on 30/01/2017 - 17:11

          @macrocephalic:

          Those hover boards didn't comply with Australian Standards AND caught fire

          Thats what i said.

        • macrocephalic on 31/01/2017 - 10:46

          @xoom: No, you said "because".

    • chumbucket on 29/01/2017 - 13:22
      +1

      Id say its unlikely to have been compared to Aus standards, but the manufacturer is reputable, and well as the input voltage meeting 240v.
      In saying this it is lithium powered (insert casual reference to note 7)

      • whats up skip on 29/01/2017 - 14:51
        -5

        Your insurance could be a problem if it looks like it was the cause of the house fire.

        I wonder if they come in flaming red.

  • Clear on 29/01/2017 - 13:15
    +46

    no band 28

    Deal breaker ;)

    • [Deactivated] on 29/01/2017 - 13:30
      +1

      yeah why do they even bother advertsiing these things. Seriously, they expect us to run this scooter on the Vodafone network?

      • Steptoe on 29/01/2017 - 15:54

        Poetic license

  • t25 on 29/01/2017 - 13:29

    Looks like a good unit for in between office runs. Saves me having to walk

    • Transparent on 29/01/2017 - 13:55

      Yeah….Walking BAD, must avoid ;)

      • t25 on 29/01/2017 - 14:00
        +3

        I'm a pretty lazy person. I used to use a scooter together with my train rides. Makes a pretty efficient commute

      • AlexF on 29/01/2017 - 14:26

        Walking BAD

        and quaint.

  • shaybisc on 29/01/2017 - 13:35
    +6

    Where do you ride these tiny-wheeled things? Every time I see a picture of one of I imagine hitting the first bump and sailing over the handlebars into a cactus.

    • Davo1111 on 29/01/2017 - 13:54

      Back when razor scooters were a craze, I had one. Tbh they're pretty nimble and you can easily get over most bumps. You quickly learn which ones are possible, which ones you jump/step. A

    • macrocephalic on 30/01/2017 - 15:34
      +1

      This has 8.5" tyres, that's over a third of the diameter of a standard motorcycle wheel! Just how large are the bumps you expect to be hitting?!

  • otorrhoea on 29/01/2017 - 13:41
    -5

    Huh? it's a scooter, not a mobile phone. No band 28 is meaningless.

    This is a very underpowered scooter, and does not meet UL battery requirements. a 250watt motor will NOT be able to get anyone over 50kg up an incline of more than 5 degrees.

    If you want an electric scooter, I'd recommend extremetoys XTA phantom. 400 watt motor that can actually go up hills ( I have one) and they are the Aussie distributor so the batteries in them are legit. They also have a whole heap of other scooters with more power for offroad use.

    http://www.extremetoys.com.au

    • chumbucket on 29/01/2017 - 13:42
      +32

      woooosh

      • Save Medicare on 29/01/2017 - 13:57
        +5

        otorrhoea only wants scooters that go zoom

      • otorrhoea on 29/01/2017 - 16:36
        -2

        Ok to simplify for you: This won't carry adults up hills if you weigh more than 50kg. Easy enough to understand?

        • cainn on 29/01/2017 - 17:41
          +5

          The "woooosh" was the sound of the band 28 satire going over your head.

          Now you can get angry about how the joke was too subtle or something, or point out that sometimes people actually are in fact so stupid that it makes satire harder to recognize. Fair enough. But the fact that not everyone gets it is often part of what makes satire enjoyable. So you did your part ;)

    • Baron-K on 29/01/2017 - 13:53
      +3

      Isn't anything over 250w not street legal?

      • otorrhoea on 29/01/2017 - 16:37

        thats what the OP means by "offroad". Changes a little from state to state but yes the motor is over 200W so no it's not going to be legal to ride on the street or footpaths.

    • orange123 on 29/01/2017 - 14:09
      +6

      You must be really fun at parties…

      • otorrhoea on 29/01/2017 - 16:38

        I'm speaking from experience, but sure, feel free to ignore my advice.

    • chumbucket on 29/01/2017 - 14:20
      +7

      Also, just to point out watt is the time rate of energy, it doesnt describe the applied torque transmitted to the ground.
      A 250W motor would in fact drive someone up a 14 degree incline or more but would be dependant on gearing.
      I don't claim to know the specific ratios or methods that Xiaomi use to drive the scooter, but a planetary gear in either the front wheel or the back would probably achieve the incline at weights over 50kg.

      Source: Mechanical Engineer

      • pegaxs on 29/01/2017 - 14:27
        +2

        I think what people mean to say is, it won't drag their podgie backsides up a steep hill at full speed at wide open throttle.

    • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 15:44

      Yep, whoosh + your Phantom Scooter is out of stock.

    • goingDHfast on 29/01/2017 - 15:57

      Where's the deal here??

    • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 16:58

      and does not meet UL battery requirements.

      Do you realise what UL are? A testing and certification company.

      and they are the Aussie distributor so the batteries in them are legit.

      How are the batteries in the Xiaomi not legit?

    • macrocephalic on 30/01/2017 - 15:36

      If you want an electric motorcycle then buy (and register) one. This is a electric assisted scooter, yes you will have to push up hills.

  • Davo1111 on 29/01/2017 - 13:51
    +7

    It's a lot of money to spend on a device that you can't ride legally

    (except in areas where councils have approved electric scooters, which is limited).

    • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 14:40
      +2

      Not legal in NSW ! boo

      • ash2000 on 29/01/2017 - 14:47
        +1

        The NSW law is as follows…..

         Powered foot scooters cannot be registered 
 and can only be used on private land.

        Doesn't sound like much fun :(

        • [Deactivated] on 29/01/2017 - 16:40
          +1

          Typical in the Baird nanny-state. Perhaps Berejiklinghamalphabet will adopt a different approach, but unlikely when she has been advisor to Baird

  • KOBH on 29/01/2017 - 14:37
    +1

    Motor power——— 250W(Maximum power to 500W)

    Good for the kids in the park, but useless for most people.

  • amsaini15 on 29/01/2017 - 14:48

    Can anybody share a link to check if council allows this in their area or not?

    I plan to buy one for commute between parking and office (2km). Any legit recommendations?

    • Davo1111 on 29/01/2017 - 14:53

      A bicycle

      • amsaini15 on 29/01/2017 - 18:53

        Dont mind bicycle or walking on days when its not 40C.

    • chumbucket on 29/01/2017 - 14:54
      +3

      Its probably easier to contact your council, I doubt someone would have compiled a list of all councils across Australia that allow electric scooters.
      Although, my reference to a clean looking scooter was intended to mean that it did not look like a powered scooter at all.
      Also if you (temporarily) disable the throttle you may be able to claim that the battery runs the lights/gps and the motor is actually a generator to charge the system

    • Steptoe on 29/01/2017 - 15:56

      🚶

    • klownz on 29/01/2017 - 16:07

      Unpowered scooter?

  • tessel on 29/01/2017 - 15:34
    +1

    Legal in Tasmania up to 200W. I doubt they'd stop you or bother checking the extra 50W. Can be used on footpaths and roads in areas where the speed limit is 50km per hour. I'd like to buy one for the wife but it's a bit pricey.

    • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 15:47

      Honestly with this design - the cops will be lucky to pick it out as an Electric scooter rather than a high end Razor. Let alone nailing you for 50W worth of power. It is pretty exe for a scooter, but only because its been price hiked by wholesalers (the list price is $399 USD).

    • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 15:53

      Valentine's Day present :)
      also remember 8.88% cashback with CR https://www.cashrewards.com.au/search/aliexpress so it's approx $647!

      • ash2000 on 29/01/2017 - 15:57

        so it's approx $647!

        Remember, unless you have a citibank, or 28dgress (or similar international tranaction fee free card) you'll also be levied 3% by your bank on all purchases, even if you checkout using the AUD option.

        So budget an extra $21!

        • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 16:01

          Yes, that's true. Really 5.88% Cashback or a total of approx $669 :)

  • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 15:42

    Been waiting for this or their e-Bike. hmmm..

    • tessel on 29/01/2017 - 15:43
      +2

      Xiaomi MiJia QiCycle? I guess the QiCycle would be more useful? At least you could use the electric motor and foot power to get up steep hills? I watched a video on the scooter and appears that, as someone mentioned above, it isn't very good at inclines. However, the QiCycle is more expensive :|.

      • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 15:45
        +1

        Trying to see where to get it for under $1k so dont have to pay GST. hmmm…

    • ash2000 on 29/01/2017 - 15:54

      Been waiting for this or their e-Bike. hmmm..

      The choice is simple. Do you want to use the bike/scooter to get from A-B or just ride it around your house??

      The scooter can only be ridden on private property in NSW, whereas, the bike can be ridden everywhere.

  • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 15:56

    For the life of me I could not find a single English YouTube review/unboxing. A few in Russian, a lot of infomercial type Xiaomi ones and then the only good one shame it's only in Mandarin.

    Tempting to buy (especially with the 8.88% cashrewards cashback ATM which will make if ~$647) but without proper review I'm not keen on taking the punt.
    Good post anyways OP +1!

    • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 20:11

      Announced in Dec so pretty new

  • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 16:19

    how does this compare to the AIRBIKE (v2).

    http://au.airbike.com/

    the XIAOMI is a magnesium-allow, compared to the airbike carbon-fibre model … for about the same price, and km/speed.

    • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 16:34

      Your linked product is $799. The Xiaomi is $669 (After Cashback). That's $130 more (approx 18%) - I wouldn't use the term 'same price'. The Airbike does look like a decent option though (albeit sold out). But do they have proprietary wheels? How often would you need to replace these?

      • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 17:02

        albeit 350w instead of 250w for the xiaomi, if people wanted something a bit stronger. the airbike was in stock when i placed my order earlier this month, hence my genuine query on these models —- also, seems to be a lot of lithium electric devices coming to market this 2017…

        also 2 hr charge time (airbike), compared to 5 (xiaomi).

        • 6.3kg (airbike), compared to 12.5kg (xiaomi) device weights.
        • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 17:13

          Yes, great specs and looks the goods but if you've linked to a deal that's no longer attainable then there's not much point.

        • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 17:20

          @rawm: actually, wasnt really a deal, and i believe they're in back-order now…

        • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 22:20

          @sachz: You've got me tempted now (but out of stock). Though the larger wheel on the Xiaomi would be a tad more ideal - except this is only half the weight..!

        • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 23:45
          +1

          @bchliu: try ur luck on the GLOBAL site, it says its in-stock there… http://www.airbike.com/

    • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 17:17

      The Xiaomi has better brakes - this is foot on the rear wheel low tech stuff. The Xiaomi has (apparently ABS) Disc Brakes. Airbike has probably better batteries (Samsung! fire?), shorter charging time (2H versus 5H) and a higher normal output (350W).

      • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 20:13

        Xiaomi uses LG batteries so on par really.

    • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 20:17
      +1

      Main differnce I see is 5.5 vs 8" wheel diameter. This will make a huge diff on bumpy roads. Even small dropoffs you will feel a differnce

      • bchliu on 29/01/2017 - 22:10

        I went to the 8" wheel on my Razor and makes a huge difference with every bump and crack on the road/path. Having said that, I think both have some suspension capability in the front wheel by the looks of the picture and videos.

  • Captain M on 29/01/2017 - 16:26

    For more info regarding use in VIC have a look at the Vic Roads page.
    It looks like you can ride this scooter on the footpath in vic.

    • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 17:03

      i see them everywhere in sydney cbd, esp on the bike lanes… dont know about footpaths.

    • spamuel on 29/01/2017 - 21:25

      You'd be hard pressed to find any police unit in possession of a device that can actually test your power output there and then, whether they can seize and test later in a lab is unclear to me

      • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 22:47

        I don't think they test it. I'm taking a huge guess that the design requirement would be a placard to specify the motor output.

  • AMLagonda on 29/01/2017 - 16:27

    I would rather a electric bike as
    1) if the battery goes flat you can pedal it home.
    2) you would look more like an adult on a bike then a kids scooter
    3) less dangerous.
    4) can carry more.
    5) bigger wheels…

    • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 16:36
      +6

      1) Walk
      2) Adults can use scooters too, don't judge
      3) Debatable
      4) Backpacks can hold what you need
      5) So what, this is arguably more portable and can be easily carried onto a Bus, Tram, Train etc.

      • sachz on 29/01/2017 - 17:03

        easier to fold up an electric scooter and jump on the train / tram, compared to a bike… just thats just IMO.

        • xoom on 29/01/2017 - 17:12
          +2

          I seen on a few occasions folding bikes taken by people on the train.

        • rawm on 29/01/2017 - 17:14

          Yep, that was what I was inferring with my 5) answer. All depends on one's needs/wants/circumstances.

      • AMLagonda on 29/01/2017 - 18:45
        -1

        2) Adults can use scooters too, don't judge

        Judged and sentenced :p

  • Clear on 29/01/2017 - 17:37
    +1

    The Xiaomi QiCycle is pretty cool too. I think I'd prefer it over the scooter.

    • Davo1111 on 29/01/2017 - 19:36

      i wouldnt mind one if it was bigger/sturdy tbh. Xiaomis carbon electric bike is like 6k, so out of my price range.

      A xiaomi version of the Add-E 250W would be pretty cool

      • Clear on 29/01/2017 - 20:32

        Stick the electric component in this and I'd throw my money at it instantly.

  • davicta on 29/01/2017 - 17:53

    I'd recommend a carbon fiber electric scooter one if you have to carry it around a bit.

    • aoeueoa on 29/01/2017 - 22:49

      Looks identical to the airbike link posted above

  • amsaini15 on 29/01/2017 - 19:02

    So for NSW, Electric bicycle is allowed but not electric scooter? I would probably have to wait longer for rules to change.

    • Davo1111 on 29/01/2017 - 19:39

      pedal assisted electric bike. and limited by power.

  • BargainDoubter on 29/01/2017 - 20:22

    Not legal for use on roads or foot paths in SA either :'(

    http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/riding_motorised_scoot…

  • katsuya on 29/01/2017 - 21:53

    not legal to use on any roads or foot paths in QLD

    • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 22:03
      -2

      not legal to use on any roads or foot paths in QLD

      Legal on private roads and foot paths however this doesn't include shopping centres.

      • black on 29/01/2017 - 22:42

        Seen in the OP.

  • cloverke on 29/01/2017 - 22:07

    Just checked its Chinese website, the price after exchange is only around 400 AUDs. Guess not cheap for the import fees.. then.

    • Maverick-au on 29/01/2017 - 22:51
      -1

      Just checked its Chinese website, the price after exchange is only around 400 AUDs

      That's in China not including delivery.

      Guess not cheap for the import fees..

      What import fees? You're paying for someone to buy it and ship to Australia as well as cover warranty.

  • marmozet on 30/01/2017 - 10:02

    Beware for South Australian Roads and foot paths these can't be used, private property only.

    http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/riding_motorised_scoot…

    Seems a bit daft but it's the law and in the words of the Clash 'I fought the law and the law won'.

  • plmko on 30/01/2017 - 13:58

    12.5kg is way too heavy if anyone is thinking of lugging one through our trains. I have a 8kg scooter, it's just barely comfortable carrying one. If anyone can make a 5kg one that would be absolutely bliss.

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