2 Lenovo Chomebooks on Kogan

icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 10:37

Helping out a friend, they need to purchase a Chromebook for their kid and have settled on Lenovo N22 Chromebook. I've looked for the cheapest and Kogan seem to be the cheapest, however they have 2 of what seems to be the same thing at 2 different prices.
Expensive - https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/lenovo-thinkpad-n22-education-c…
Cheaper - https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/lenovo-thinkpad-n22-semi-rugged…

I've asked Kogan and they aren't able to tell me if they are the same one, so they will forward the request to the senior team. (In other words remove the cheaper one and leave the expensive one cause they are the same)
Anyone happen to have ordered the cheap one? or know if they are the same?
HELP!!!! TIA

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  • scrimshaw on 29/01/2017 - 11:07

    There are actually three variations of the N22, one with 16GB of storage loaded with ChromeOS, another with 64GB loaded with Windows and there's another still with 128GB of SSD storage, probably Windows.

    I'd hazard a guess… Kogan goofed up and didn't proofread the spec sheet and as a result they are both 16GB (may be incorrectly stated). The Dick Smith one shows Windows 10 64GB version at $319 price point, so is it likely that the $344 one has the most storage, with Win 10 and 128GB SSD. Or it's just a listing mistake

    • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 17:14

      That one with 64gb is a notebook. School has requested a chromebook. Must be a chromebook. So weird.

      • IVI on 29/01/2017 - 17:25

        Watch OfficeWorks for a sale, or - as you're in a hurry - ask if they have a Student / Educ. DISCOUNT.

        Were you told How Much RAM & Storage you'd need in your N22?

        Some are 2 GB RAM… on up…

        • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 21:20

          She was given no information except buy a chromebook. I'm in IT hence the reason why I'm lumped with this. Her kid is in year 4, so I suspect that going into high school he will want a MacBook. So don't need top of the line for a kid to destroy

        • IVI on 31/01/2017 - 06:59

          @icyprincess:

          Still, I'd be asking Why?

          OfficeWorks' n22 price is (higher than Kogan?) at $333 (4GB model), but they have a $238 non-Chromebook.

          Uniformity of technology may well help a dim teacher, but it's a slippery slope to uniformity of thinking,
          which AU has -way- too much of, IMO.

          My 2.2 cents, only… nothing more to see hear, folks; move along… ;-)

      • scrimshaw on 29/01/2017 - 17:59

        School wants Chromebooks because they want to cut cost on It department and don't need to hire Microsoft certified people to fix your kids laptops

        Chromebooks also immune to most malware that usually target Windows PC's. Since The only apps you can install are ones from the Google ecosystem.

  • IVI on 29/01/2017 - 13:41

    $293 for a Chromebook doesn't seem a good price to me…

    Can you get files in & out, in some way?
    Any removable slots USB ports, etc.?

    Computers seem to be getting more & more restrictive,
    as screen sizes shrink…

    We bought a 15.6" Celeron-based Win box for $250 (Sale)

    Await a sale or shop around…

    • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 17:15

      Can't wait. Need it for school. School is requesting specifically a chromebook. Go figure. I would just buy a notebook but the school doesn't support them.

      • IVI on 29/01/2017 - 17:20

        Sounds like your School is acting Anti-Competitively, IMO.

        If they DEMAND you buy a particular type of tool, they should supply it OR arrange a low-cost deal-price / vendor to buy it at / through.

        Talk to ACCC.

        OR, at least, let us know WHICH School makes such demands…

        ( I wonder if someone there is making $$ by req'g Chromebooks…? )

        • scrimshaw on 29/01/2017 - 17:25

          I hope you are kidding…

        • IVI on 29/01/2017 - 17:32

          @scrimshaw:

          IF a vendor of a product you buy / bought (Here: some course, which is a Service; dunno if ACCC works for service) REQUIRES you to buy a particular type of product (maybe it has to be from a particular vendor) to buy their product, it's possibly anti-competitive.

          Why SHOULDN'T a student be free to buy what they want, ie, IUNLESS there are Good Technical Reasons not to allow this.

          PS Student, were you told - UP FRONT - that only Chromebook N22 could be used…?

        • scrimshaw on 29/01/2017 - 17:52
          +1

          @IVI:

          There's a very particular reason why schools wants it's entire student body to use a specific operating system. It's mainly because it makes administration and maintenance easier. As a helpdesk technician, it makes my work a lot easier if every student and teacher are all using the same OS version and it makes problems (no matter how small) much easier to troubleshoot because I can follow a script.

          Wifi not working? Check network settings in Windows.. Laptop not in domain? Run a script and Refresh Group Policy. Etc.

          and in this particular instance this school hasn't really got the finances to provide the students with on site tech support, or perhaps like many public schools, they lack resources to provide kids with proprietary software licenses, so they use google apps to cut cost and manpower requirements

        • cheapbloke on 29/01/2017 - 18:20

          Haha. You are are funny. Anti competitive… I wonder how parents are going to cope with schools demanding that they get expensive iPads for their kids! At least there are different vendors you can get a Chromebook from. Not that it's readily available locally but then you can always purchase from Amazon US.

        • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 18:29

          School hasn't specified the n22. They have just stated a chromebook. No other information. It's for a private primary school.
          They haven't provided much more information other than year 3 up must have a chromebook for use.
          TBH it's not my kids school so I'm not too fussed with the details and the politics of it. I'll wait until my child is in school to worry why I'm being forced into a certain type of computer.

        • IVI on 31/01/2017 - 07:06

          @icyprincess:

          Thinking about the size of a device with an 11.6" screen, it seems "Too Big" for a Year 3 or Year 4
          kid to have to shlepp around, IMO.

          I'll back down on the Value 4 $$ issue, if it has a Touch Screen, but Size remains an issue for me.

          We put small chairs into Primary school classrooms for a reason, & maybe device sizes should also fit the kids.

        • icyprincess on 31/01/2017 - 09:23

          @IVI:
          The kid comfortably uses her 15" MacBook Pro. But I see your point. Will get her to take her kid to check out 10" and 11.6" notebooks to see what size he prefers. Thanks IVI

  • fruit on 29/01/2017 - 15:12
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    Kogan lol

  • IVI on 29/01/2017 - 17:28

    Act like a Thinking Student & Ask (& Ask & Ask) WHY "only this computer" suffices.

    IF they can't give you a good reason, switch schools!

    Is this one of those Gov't Funded programs? Or a shoddy Private one?

    AU has seen LOTSA dim or even dishonest Schools set-up & die (go bust),
    only after doing some dodgy things like seems (to me) to be.

    Let them explain how they chose this computer.

    What kind of Course are you taking there?

    • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 18:31

      It is a primary school. For a year 3 student. Not being forced into the n22 but have to have a chromebook. Not any specifics.

  • scotty on 29/01/2017 - 18:11

    Kogan probably imports / drop-ships those from various sources so the price and make appears a bit different. Both are Lenovo's low end Chromebook and you'll find N3050 really struggling with heavy pages.

    Otherwise ChromeOS is great (at least from school administration point of view).

  • Bystander on 29/01/2017 - 20:05

    I provide IT support to schools and Chromebooks are BRILLIANT!

    The 2GB Lenovo has been sub $300 on Kogan for a long time. If it were me I'd consider the 4GB
    https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/lenovo-thinkpad-n22-education-c…

    or the newer 2GB HP
    https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/hp-chromebook-11-g5-education-n…

    • icyprincess on 29/01/2017 - 21:19

      Check out both my links. They are both 4gb. Which is what I'm confused about!! One is cheaper, one is more expensive.

      • Bystander on 29/01/2017 - 21:51

        My apologies. You're right both your links are 4GB. I don't know why Kogan would have the 2 prices but they do seem to have other incorrect details. eg. both of the Kogan links say the weight is 4kg when it's really more like 1.2kg. If you want the Lenovo I'd buy the cheaper one as they look the same.

        TBH though when it comes to my own money I bought one of these 6 weeks ago for a student starting high school tomorrow
        https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZS4HK0Q/ref=od_aui_deta…
        Touchscreen is great and these already have the Play store enabled so Android apps will run on it as well. It's a litttle smaller at 10" which also means that the keyboard is slightly smaller and good for little fingers. At AUDc$360 including delivery I reckon it's a great deal.

        • IVI on 31/01/2017 - 07:17

          Amazon has way more info on the ASUS.

          Q&A (but Not the Spec list) suggests it may have a uSD card slot; can anyone confirm this?

          IF it does, is the card's format compatible with other devices (Win or Mac) that use similar cards?

          I like to keep cross-platform data exchange options open.

        • Bystander on 31/01/2017 - 15:51

          @IVI:
          Yes, it does have a micro-SD card reader. I format the sd card in my CB and it works on all my other devices, Win & Mac.

          Chromebooks make up more than 50% of the US Education market because they're simple and fast amongst other reasons. Pretty much everything is available in the cloud nowadays. Cheap Win devices tend to deliver a poor UX.

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