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Self Development for Students and Adults (Developed by Clinical Psychologists) 2 for 1 Deal ~ $30AU @ Self Authoring

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Hey all, was watching some interesting philosophy/psychology lectures on youtube, when I stumbled upon this site made by the lecturer.

"Jordan Peterson, co-creator and psychology professor at the University of Toronto, had tested part of the curriculum on 85 students who were struggling academically at McGill University in Montreal, and the students' collective GPA rose by 29 percent in a single semester. In 2011, the Rotterdam School of Management at Erasmus University in the Netherlands made a portion of the course mandatory for incoming undergraduates. The result: a nearly 10 percent increase in GPA, a 15 percent decrease in dropouts, and the highest-performing cohorts in the history of the school"

They have a New Years 2 for 1 deal for 30CAD ~= 30AUD

This might be a good gift idea if you know someone struggling with their studies/life goals, or for yourself, if you're unsure of what path to take, or are struggling to be motivated.

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If you're undecided:

Here's an interview explaining the program.

Some testimonials from an NPR article, oprah article and a blog writer.

The research profiles of the professors who developed the program: 1, 2, 3.

A paper explaining the science of the program, and its benefits with references to the research conducted (you can just read the abstract on page 5)

I highly recommend watching some of Jordan Peterson's videos on his yt channel, some of the most interesting stuff you'll hear.

Enjoy!

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  • That's some expensive spam.

    • +3

      EDIT: Oh, if you mean the product itself is spam, the benefit of this website in particular is that you can track the careers of, and scrutinise the people who made this product

      http://www.selfauthoring.com/about.html

      They're in the public sphere, so if you like, you can read the research they've published.

      Jordan Peterson for example, has some really enlightening ideas on philosophy, and the human mind (he posts his university lecture videos on his youtube i linked). Which is why i'm attracted to this program.

      Seriously, check out the comments on this video, people (profanity) love him. He's not charismatic or charming, but what he says is just really interesting.

      As opposed to just any self improvement site, it's made by prominent psychologists who know what they're doing, and have applied this in a research setting.

  • An article on oprah…

    LOL, kiss of death right there…

  • +1

    I've never been on the oprah site, nor do i really care about it. The point was showing a perspective from someone who isn't a student.

    I'm a proponent of content that stands on its own, rather judging it from where it comes from. Occasionally I'll read things from places that i don't particularly like (e.g. buzzfeed) but that just happen to be informative.

    • I care when the evidence presented seems to be blogs, puff pieces & youtubers.

      Is the program itself evidence based? More importantly, is it peer reviewed? What reliable empirical evidence supports the efficacy of the program???

      Just being devised by a clin psych means nothing unless the entire program is using sound EBP and has been subject to good reliable, valid testing…there's a wealth of programs out there written by any number of academics, allied health &/or medical professionals, some significantly better than others.

      • Read the post again, I've updated it since then.

        The research is publicly available if you want to check if its peer reviewed. It has been tested (on students), its one of the FIRST things stated, the biggest selling point, and its something thats frankly really easy to check. Look at the academic profiles I linked.

        The blog articles are testimonials I found, and show what the process involves. Don't extrapolate too much from it, and don't make them the end all. If you want science/ed journalism, look at the NPR article.
        YouTube interview is with the professor who did the research.

        There's a wealth of programs yes, but if you don't state any, and that they have the same benefits as this program (I've done some future authoring things before, and they're not as specific or comprehensive as this, nor backed by original research) that point to the same studies, that's a fairly moot thing to bring up.

        If you have any questions regarding this program, email the site, and the professor who made it himself will explain his research much better than I or anyone else.

        Hes good at responding back on social media, defending his research, and has a fairly large online presence if you want to see his other work. Its about as transparent as you can get with a product

        That said, if there's something better that does the same thing, I'll definitely try it! No reason not to use multiple programs if they're effective, they don't necessarily do all the same, and have different approaches (like dr. David burns' work, or Mark Manson, the former of which has award winning research, like robert Pihl from this program)

  • +2

    This stuff is ok and the price isn't too bad. When it's for students it's good, the hatred I have is for those who wish to advertise life coaching / mentoring for exorbitant prices.

    Those are scammers and spammers and low life scum.

    • +2

      Yeah, I identify with that thinking.

      I've heard of face-to-face life coach appointments being like 300/hr though, that's more of a cult thing people get sucked into.

      I don't to spend money on self improvement stuff usually, but this supports research on mental health and psychology, and one off $15 is a reasonable price for something that could potentially change your future for the better.

      It's rare that you find a program made by tenured psychology professors, it's usually really vague ("our methods are scientifically proven!")
      It's not only for students though, students at his university just happened to be the easiest subjects to test this on lol

  • OP, just so I'm clear, for the $29.90 you get 2 x logins, which can each access all 4 programs?

    I'm quite interested, even at $30 for one person this is quite enticing.

    • yeah that's correct,

      they sent an email with two sets of username + password, and these accounts work with all the programs (i just tried it)

      • That's great value, thanks for clarifying, I will be purchasing.

        • awesome. hope it goes well!

  • OP did you take a look through this? Am I correct in thinking it's a series of writing prompts? I've seen a few of Jordan Peterson's videos in the past and like his style but find it hard to justify spending money on a series of questions that -from what I understand - are simply going to ask me to write about the past, present and future.

    What is actually offered once you log in to the site?

    • Good question - is there any feedback or analysis applied? Or does it simply prompt you, albeit in a professional manner/mode, to expel your innermost hurts/desires/wants etc?

      • +1

        I replied to angryalfred :)
        the analysis is done by just yourself though. You'll write/think differently if someone else reads it. Sharing your goals also might complicate things.

        In the program, you're led through a series of specific exercises to write down stuff.
        If you do want to share it with others, there's a report that's sent to you after each module so you can review your strategy that work towards life goals. But the whole point is basically that you look inwards without outside influence - digging deep into your experiences, and planning for your future in only ways you want to. Not what your parents, friends or significant others want you to do, just you.

    • +2

      From the descriptions of the intro page of each module:
      Future = 2.5 hours
      Present (Virtues) = 60-90 minutes
      Present (Faults) = 3 hours
      Past = 4 hours

      So basically it gets you to think about, and analyse your past/future, and strategise a plan to improve it for about 11 hours over the course of a few days, whenever you feel ready or feel like it. It's fairly comprehensive, so it'll take longer than that though, honestly (it has non-enforced time limits for some of the exercises).

      You can read this:
      http://www.oprah.com/spirit/Self-Authoring-Health-Benefits-o…
      ignore that it's from oprah, the article is a first hand account of what the program is like, and the experiences the author gained.

      What interested me the most about this program the past module, which looks at traumatic/uncertain events in your past. Apparently writing about your past helps your physical and mental well being (measured in the study by less frequent visits to the doctor afterwards by subjects), which I'm excited to try, though i haven't had anything close to PTSD. I've definitely had alot of uncertainty, and a few rough years/events (but who hasn't?).

      Personally I think it's worth it for 15, it's clear cut, proven results, and something I can come back to later. I really like David Burns's work as well, a clinical psychiatrist - Anyone who is respected in the field, does studies based on science and has tried this on their clients with success frankly earns my money over books like "The Secret" for example.

      Beyond what's described on the website, try sending the self authoring people an email!
      My knowledge is limited, because I don't plan on starting the program until a few days from now (I'm busy with some uni/work stuff at the moment).
      They might be able to explain their product better.

      • +1

        Thank you, that's a very thorough write up. I've known the benefits and writing and tried similar things before but if this can help me with structure then it's worth a shot. I will purchase later this afternoon, cheers.

  • +1

    Thanks OP always interested in introspective activities :)

  • OP, how did you get it in CAD? I keep getting USDA. Cheers.

    • 30USD?
      CAD was just the currency when I selected PayPal in checkout. Perhaps you're using a VPN?

      I ended up paying via credit card, and it was converted from cad to 30.52aud

      • I get 29.90 USD too, tried via PayPal and no VPN (just on mobile > Chrome). You can pay directly to them for $29.90 but doesn't specify currency.

        Funnily enough I was willing to pay $30AUD for 1 license but not $40+ for 2 lol.

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