Hey everyone, I'm looking to build a cheap gaming pc for casual gaming on games such as csgo. I have found a refurb that has the specs listed below but I am wondering what kind of fps in what settings I could get in a number of games.
Build:
i5 3550 @ 3.30GHz
Intel DH77EB Motherboard
8gb ddr3 1600mhz
AMD Radeon HD 6670 2gb
I am also looking for a new gpu under $200 and potentially a monitor under $200 as well.
Thanks
@TheMoDz I'm not sure if your comment was a typo, but as far as i'm aware CS:GO is very dependent on CPU.
@Condog i think this kit should easily pull 60+ fps in CSGO, but the GPU will hold you back in other games.
If you haven't found them already, these two website can help you put a budget pc build together:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/ - give you an idea of how to balance different parts vs price
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/ - help you select all parts you need for a full build and compare prices.
I did a build a few months ago. Mainly play CSGO but also wanted to future proof for other games etc..
maybe but my brothers i5-2320 and HD 7950 combo can run it max no problem, pretty sure CPU here isnt a problem
CPU definitely isn't a problem, the i5 in OP will run it fine.
Get a second hand GPU from gumtree. More value for money but make sure it's working properly and preferably not overclocked.
Same for monitor.
That's a good idea, but have no idea how big the Used GPU market in Adelaide is.
Even Sydney is quite hit and miss, nothing to the likes of West Europe/UK/Canada and of course USA.
Obviously you're going for a budget build, but you should still make a few cheap upgrades.
1 - Upgrade from 8GB to 16GB RAM, should set you back maybe ~$40
2 - Add a 128-256GB SSD, and load Windows unto it, everything will boot much faster (keep HDD for slow/mass storage) ~$80
3 - Go for a GPU that will run great now, and run decent enough a couple years to make your dollars go the distance
…the one's I recommend for you are in -BOLD-
At the current market stage you should AVOID:
GTX 680 <-> GTX 650
GTX 770 <-> GTX 750
… only the (Kepler architecture) GTX 780/Ti are worth considering.
Also AVOID:
GTX 950 <-> GTX 960
…. the (Maxwell architecture) GTX 970 <->GTX 980Ti are worth considering.
Also AVOID:
Any AMD cards pre-HD7950, as these are not on AMD's GCN architecture.
Nvidia Used cards to consider at prices considerable:
GTX 780 - AU$240
GTX 780Ti - $250
GTX 970 - $260
…you will notice bottlenecks after this point…
GTX 980 - $280
GTX 980Ti - $430
AMD Used cards to consider at prices considerable:
-AMD HD7950 - $170
R9 280 - $175
-HD7970 - $190
R9 280X - $195
-R9 290 - $220
HD7990 - $225
R9 390 - $240
…you will notice bottlenecks after this point…
R9 290X - $275
R9 390X - $280
R9 Fury - $320
R9 FuryX - $330
^Those could be great bang for buck, but I would strongly recommend the new Pascal and Polaris cards instead:
-RX 460 (2GB) - $130
GTX 1050 (2GB) - $150
GTX 1050Ti (4GB) - $200
-RX 470 (4GB) - $250
GTX 1060 (3GB) - $270
GTX 1060 (6GB) - $300
…you will notice bottlenecks after this point…
-RX 480 (4GB) - $290
-RX 480 (8GB) - $320
GTX 1070 (8GB) - $540
GTX 1080 (8GB) - $780
Thanks for the reply, the build in the description is $175, is that a good deal or should I hold off or buy separate.
So the PC (CPU, RAM, HDD, PSU, Win7) is $175 to begin with?
… that's a great bargain!!
It's so tempting for me to say just buy a GTX 750Ti (~$95) and be done with it.
However, you can really get so much more performance for just a little bit more.
The included Windows7 OS is more than enough, but Windows10 is now the target for compatibility and optimisations in terms of drivers, programs and games. You can run one for free, or get a OEM key for cheap.
The slow 5,400rpm HDD will not affect games that much, except for really slow launch and load times, running performance should be okay. However total system performance (non-gaming things) will be choked quite a bit, and would be foolish not to upgrade (especially with today's prices).
The 8GB RAM won't hold you back that much, but it will 95% be used up by most games….
…choking the system quite a bit.
Budget:
PC: $175
Sell the old/slow HD6670 GPU: +$15
Current cost - $150
Add a Windows10 Pro OEM key - $15
Current cost - $175
Add another 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM - $40
Current cost - $205
Add a 256GB SSD - $80
Current cost - $285
…so now we've removed bottlenecks and modernised the machine, the rest is all for the GPU.
You can go: $285 + $130 = ~$420 total cost with RX 460
All/Most AAA titles will run at 1080p, 45-60fps, Medium Settings
Or better yet go: $285 + <215 = $390-$500 total cost with R9 290 (example)
All/Most AAA titles will run 1080p, 60fps, High Settings
Or even better yet, try to get your hands on a RX 470 for about $250, for a total cost of ~$540
All/Most AAA titles will run at 1080p, 45-60fps, Ultra Settings
Option #2 seems to be the best one for you.
I should also let you know that sometimes you can get "dead" workstation PC's and use some parts from them. I know there's quite an assortment of Dell Optiplex's that have a Core i7-3770 you can salvage if you want a bit more oomph. And despite the lack of "K", you can still overclock these to around 4.1GHz, at 1.15v….
(much better than getting a Core i5-2400, Core i3-6100, Core i5-4460, FX 6300, FX 8350 CPU's)
(much better than getting a GTX 660, GTX 780, GTX 950, GTX 1060 GPU's)
would getting a 780 for $180 ish be a good buy in comparison to the r9 290, also would a 3770 provide much improvement in gaming. I have found a few with 3770 but they are priced around $300. Also is it likely that i will need a psu upgrade.
@Condog:
First of all, I do recommend a PSU upgrade if yours doesn't have extra power/cables for the GPU.
Because otherwise you are limited to only GPUs powered by the PCIe slot; which are weaker or niche cards.
Eg GTX 750, GTX 750Ti, RX 460, GTX 1050, GTX 1050Ti.
On top of that, these cards don't get as cheap or as readily available as you would hope.
…I mean you could definitely see a R9 280X for sale for $50, but you wouldn't see that for the RX 460…
…being limited by your PSU is not a good thing.
Secondly, any Kepler GPU is a tough recommendation these days.
For DX11 optimisation (today), it goes:
Fermi ~ Kepler < GCN 1 < GCN 2 ~ Maxwell < Pascal ~ GCN 3 (Vega).
For DX12 optimisation (today), it goes:
Fermi ~ Kepler ~ Maxwell < GCN 1 < GCN 2 ~ Pascal < GCN 3 (Vega).
So driver, software, etc etc support is over and done with for GTX 780Ti (and earlier).
However, hardware wise the GTX 780 is still quite strong and still half-efficient on 28nm by today's standards.
It was slightly faster than the R9 280X and slightly weaker than the R9 290.
And since Kepler's abandonment, and AMD's constant driver upgrades, there is a rift open between them.
The R9 280X is slightly faster, and the R9 290 is even more faster.
So if the:
HD7970/R9 280X is a at a price considerable at $190
R9 290 is at a price considerable at $220
…the GTX 780 should be cheaper than both…
At maximum I would pay $200 for it, but would actually expect to pay closer to $170.
So $180 seems reasonable, but all the prices I saw for it put it around $240 which is not worth it.
Have you considered the RX 470's (yes, I know they're in shortage)
Lastly, going from a Core i5-3550 to a Core i7-3770 won't have much/any impact on games.
However, I do know that the Core i7-3770K's did overclock better than their i5 counterparts. And I do know the non-K 3770's can overclock too.
Realistically most/all games will run great on the 3550, however more and more games are starting to want more threads and higher memory bandwidth. So having Hyper-Threading (finally!) is giving improvements in games.
If you had a Core i5-2500, I would definitely recommend going to the 3770/K.
But you're rig is fine as it is now.
I only brought up the 3770 as you can get it at a great price ($0 ).
@Kangal:
$0 what where aha, so will a rx 470 be able to run games such as bf1 at decent settings and fps. also when buying a monitor do 21:9's work well/ have any advantages. thank you so much for your help as well, would be lost without you
CPU is alright, CSGO isnt dependent on the CPU, the downside is the GPU, but should maybe get 60fps if you lower the settings.
$200 GPU, GTX 1050 or if youre lucky GTX 1050Ti