Looking for a washing machine around 8kg capacity up to $1500 and this appeared on Price Hipster. Seems to be the best deal going at the moment for washing machines, happy to be proven wrong if others can find decent deals.
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Looking for a washing machine around 8kg capacity up to $1500 and this appeared on Price Hipster. Seems to be the best deal going at the moment for washing machines, happy to be proven wrong if others can find decent deals.
Via Price Hipster
Hi, what do you mean by filter & pump?
Can't it just connect to power & hot and cold taps like a top loader?
All that is correct a
Gaz11 but some machines do not have a compartment opening in front of machine to do self servicing clean of filter. This is a real pain as you will need call the service centre as I am in the process of doing.
Think Samsung might be a good brand to miss for washing machines and phones at least
I'm not sure if there is a reliability relationship between the Samsung washing machine design & mobile phone design.
There's a relationship between two producs from two seperate categories, both with a tendancy to explode, that are both manufactured by the same company.
Probably not a bad deal for this product, and not a bad deal if you must have a front loader.
However there is almost certainly better washing machines in a top loader of the same price.
I just switched back from front loader to top loader. What a massive improvement, it's like chalk and cheese.
What makes you say top loaders are better?
I've always been under the impression that fronts were far superior to tops.
Most people would say the opposite ie massive improvement from top to front loader.
Always had a top loader but would be interested in the differences between top & front loaders.
Front loaders:
* Use less water, since the orientation means that clothes can be soaked/submerged without having to fill up the whole drum
* Use less power since they don't need to spin the drum as fast to generate centripetal force (and hence are gentler on clothes)
- Use less water, since the orientation means that clothes can be soaked/submerged without having to fill up the whole drum
Which is almost irrelevant, since water costs 0.2 cents per litre
Use less power since they don't need to spin the drum as fast to generate centripetal force (and hence are gentler on clothes)
That is totally wrong, in fact it's the complete opposite - think about the energy required to spin like a top compared to spinning like a mouse wheel. However most front loaders are unable to spin as fast as a top loader, as it would cause forces that would literally shake the machine to death.
(and hence are gentler on clothes)
LOL - you need to thing about the physics involved… a front loader isn't "more gentle". I'd argue that floating around suspended in water of a top loader is far grntler than being picked up and dropped for a couple of hours in a front loader. Anyway, the agitation of the clothes is what helps circulate the water through them, so "more gentle" doesn't mean "better" anyway.
Always had a top loader but would be interested in the differences between top & front loaders.
For me, by FAR the biggest disadvantage is that you cannot soak cloths in a front loader. you are literally relying on the quality of the detergent to get the dirt and stains out. The biggest hassle is boy's sports clothes, as the grass stains and other "boy mess" really needs a decent long soak submerged in enzyme-based brightener in order to come up looking like new.
After a few years of washing in the front loader, I found that all our clothes slowly took on a grubby appearance - that has now been reversed with a new (modern and high end) top loader, plus soaking.
The wash cycle time for Front loaders is significantly longer, plus the real world capacity (irrespective of the rated size) seems far smaller. We literally washed ALL weekend to deal with a small family's needs. The top loader standard cycle is an hour, plus can fit more in each load (and wash properly) so we can get through everything is (what seems to be) a quarter of the time using the new top loader.
Also, you cannot add clothes once the cycle has started. And I've always found that the rinse is terrible on front loaders, unless it's set to "super triple rinse like 30 times", the clothes absolutely reek of detergent when they are removed. One thing that is really great about the top loader is to remove the clothes at the end and not have to un-knot them fron the tightly woven ball that they have been tumbled into.
As a tall person, I find the ergonomics of a front loader far poorer - needing to lean down or get onto my knees in order to unload the machine is pretty horrid. I suppose that the machine could be lifted onto a plinth or something, however the vibration would be a concern - our front loader literally walked out of it's position and needed to be re-positioned every few loads or it ended up smashing itself against the dryer and surrounding cabinets.
So, for me, after owning and using both types over many years… when I went out to buy a new washing machine a few months ago I decided to go back to top loader. I've genuinely found it a revelation and a significant overall improvement in all aspects of our use of the machine - I couldn't care less about water usage, and that is the only advantage I can see from a front loader.
Have a seat.
Which is almost irrelevant, since water costs 0.2 cents per litre
http://www.betta.com.au/services/betta-advice-centre/betta-a…
And, to drive the point home, savewater!® Alliance Inc. claims that a front loader can use up to 70% - or 36,000 litres - less water than a top loader per year in a typical household.
YMMV.
That is totally wrong, in fact it's the complete opposite - think about the energy required to spin like a top compared to spinning like a mouse wheel.
One spins parallel to gravity, one spins perpendicular to it.
Going back to the last link I posted:
[regarding front loaders] This spinning mechanism makes use of the natural force of gravity, is faster and pulls more water from the laundry, which reduces drying time and - all in all - energy consumption.
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LOL - you need to thing about the physics involved… a front loader isn't "more gentle". I'd argue that floating around suspended in water of a top loader is far gentler than being picked up and dropped for a couple of hours in a front loader.
physics
Do tell me more about this "physics".
http://www.canstarblue.com.au/appliances/laundry/top-loader-…
They reported literally the opposite of what you just said:
[top loaders] can create significant amounts of lint due to the friction of clothes during the wash
And, to drive the point home, savewater!® Alliance Inc. claims that a front loader can use up to 70% - or 36,000 litres - less water
Wow - that's an enormous saving - about 700L per week (saving - not usage)!
It hard to know where they get this from because the link on the betta website no longer works.
According to these specs:
https://www.appliancesonline.com.au/public/manuals/Samsung-W…
… the above Samsung front loader uses 70.8L per wash.
Comparing to a Fisher & Paykel 8.5kg model I have looked at:
https://www.fisherpaykel.com/au/laundry/washing-machines/was…
… this top loader uses 96L per wash.
So to save 36000 per year you would need to do 1428 washes, which is 27 per week!
Perhaps the catch here is that the "savewater alliance" says "up to" 36000 litres per year.
As llama points out the real saving in dollar value of water would probably be quite small (especially if you need a bigger front loader to do the same washing).
I suspect there is a reason we still see a lot of top loaders & front loaders on the market - the decision isn't really clear cut & there seems to be Pros & Cons.
Thanks OP. I had been hoping this model would be discounted today as my old top loader passed away on the 22nd of this month. I got this deal priced matched at TGG as the store location suited me better.
Bought today from Harvey Norman at $850 with 4yrs product care & delivered
So just on the off chance of getting lucky after the machine has started one can feed more undies. We got an old LG and a fairly new Samsung but somehow the LG is much quicker and yes elastics last twice as long in front loaders!
Was about to pull the pin on an LG WD14022D6 (7.5kg) and then saw this option - like the larger capacity (four peeps home) and the door hatch. LG have a stronger track record with washers but some reports of the LG making hammer sounds while starting wash and taking water. These things are tricky to choose between!
Anyone have this Samsung?
Thanks, OP. I just ordered this washing machine from Appliance Online. Their price is $716 and I used 'XMAS20' code to further $20 discount. Final price is $697.
Just a heads up - with any new front loading machine ensure you have access to filter and pump. To painful if not.