I want to buy a bottle or a few bottles of wine now to gift to my newborn daughter when she turns 21. I don't drink myself (don't really like the taste) but think it would be a nice present (she can always sell them if she doesn't drink either))….so I don't know what are the wines that age well. Any suggestions?
Buying Wine Suitable to Age for 21 Years
kawinuyo on 06/11/2016 - 01:36
Last edited 06/11/2016 - 09:17 by 1 other user
Last edited 06/11/2016 - 09:17 by 1 other user
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Spirits don't work like that. Once they're bottled they stop ageing.
Hard.. you'd neeed as Spackbace a suitable spot to keep it temperature wise - becuase fluctuating to high heat temperatures in the summer will take its toll and ruin any young wine even.
For something that is great to drink in 21 years you'd really also have to pick a more expensive, well structured, great wine - and I think that is quite tough unless a) you drink yourself and know what you're after and b) someone else tells you to, but then again you won't know what sort of wine she will like in 21 years.
Personally i'm more an investment geek and would buy her some shares or bricks (brickx?) as a novelty thing for when she turns 21.
But if you really want to get her her birthyear in a really good wine you could start with getting recommendations? But again, the storage part is the hardest.
Given your daughter is newborn, any decent age-worthy wine from this year won't be available for another 2-6 years.
This gives you plenty of time to do your research.
As the others have said though, if you don't have somewhere proper to store it, you'll probably just be wasting your money.
Better off going the shares option or waiting till she's 20 and buying some 2016 wines at auction.You will have to talk to some wine experts to identify which wines would be ideal for drinking after 21 year cellaring. Most sub $50 wines might not last that long.
Also not all wines increase in value over 20 yrs.
have a check at wine auctionat her 21st birthday birthday party. "…..and who would have thought she would have converted to Mormonism"
Yeah, sure, for your daughter. Totally. I mean she can always sell them. Totally not for you. Totes.
Thanks everyone, will think of something else, shows how much I know… Literally thought I could like bury it in the ground until she was old enough =.= had read it somewhere and thought it was a cool gift, here! We bought this when you were born.
Why not buy a few ~$20 bottles, pick the one you like the best + has the nicest looking 'old' bottle, and if it ends up going off, well, you can always make a joke of it :P
I think it's a good idea, it's nice, will make her feel special
adding on to what @Damo76 and @apple2016 said -
there are plenty of $50+ bottles that will age well bought today.
I would say you would struggle and probably wouldn't find (although I don't want to make such a blanket statement) anything below $50 that will elegantly last 21 years.
Do not do what @outlander said - no one would buy a $20 bottle to store for 21 years. And if you were going to goto that effort why would you buy a cheap bottle to present someone for their 21 years old celebration?
Not only that - any wine for that price wouldn't have the structure or elegance to last 21 years.
You can buy a Rolf Binder - Hanisch for close to $90 if you buy half a dozen, or $120 I think each, that should last 20,30 years from what I hear . You can contact the winery but on previous discussions I am pretty sure it will last. It's also a really big/good red, if she ever loves a good, whacking red then she will definitely love it. If all goes wrong I guess you could always sell it?
It's a lot cheaper than buying a Penfolds Grange for $500+ that are famed for cellaring that long.
Again - if you have no cool climate room or somewhere to store for that long it may not be a great idea. Some places allow you to cellar bottles, if you can find somewhere that will for a few bucks a year maybe give that a try - it would be abit over 21 years but I guess it's the sentiment?
I just bought a 1999 Leuwin estate Art Series Cab Sauv from a bottle shop in the suburbs that somehow had pricing still dated $60…. the nearby bottle shop I went to next then had the 2011 verison for $80…
so yeah you might be able to find a bargain later on, a good ages wine for her 21st, but to find something in the 2016 vintage you'll pay a lot more in 21 years I am sure.
Don't mind it being pricey, she'll only turn 21 once! My parents have this mini bar area in their house and there's an empty fridge that's not plugged in, I was thinking of keeping it there but will look into places that can cellar bottles for me. Hubby and I did plan on going to say Dan Murphys and asking but not sure if the staff would be that well trained to know so thought I'd ask here first. Thanks for the info!
keep in mind the fridge is about 10-14c that they tend to store things at. You could buy a vintec? Even Hisense from good guys are 300-400 on special, but the Vintecs are about $550 give or take,Holds 35 bottles - you could then store wine for yourself if you and the hubby want to drink abit of red wine and get abit into it? On special you can buy it for $200-250 from memory, which is what I did, when buying a half dozen or something of penfolds wines which I did one or two years back. Worked out real cheap.
Dan Murphys - mixed. Your gonna get some good, or sometimes bad people. The casual drinker, to the more serious, it's hard to tell. If anything a wine store in your neighborhoods that is multigenerational or with some experience under the belt would definitely have consumed many fine drops. What city do you live in?
For a big red try giving the Rolf Binder winery a call in the Barossa, I am pretty sure the Hanisch would last 21 years - but they can confirm. Currently sets you back about $120. Alternatively the Soul Growers Winery - their El Mejor if back in stock was about $100-120 a bottle too and may also be one of those 'big' ones you could hold for 21 years. THe winery would know best.
oh and if for the long run, those wine fridges are mentioned for a reason: they supposedly hold bottles at the right humidity (if corked - most likely for an expensive, big banging red), and they are meant to provide adequate ventilation AND they claim to minimize things that would affect wine. Everything from UV rays from light through to the ever subtle vibrations that a normal fridge or mini bar would have - multiplied over 21 years, which if you believe the hocus pocus may or may not affect your wine.
Supposedly, from reading my vintec awhile back, they have shock absorbers or some technological aspect that nullifies the vibrations etc. So yeah…. depends how much you want to believe.
thanks for the detailed advice, really appreciate it. Hubby and I both don't really like wine so not really worth buying a fridge for it. I live in Sydney. Perhaps in a few months when the baby is older I could schedule a getaway and go to the Hunter and ask for some advice there.
What about small barrel of scotch?
I don't think I'd have room to store a barrel ><
Hi,
This is pretty good timing since Halliday has just released his top wines list for the year.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/weekend-australian-maga…
If you want a white wine that will age get a young Tyrrels Vat 1 semillon. Well known in Australia for its age worthiness and wins gold medals at any wine show it enters pretty much. I have a 2011 in my fridge that i dont intend to drink for a long time.
I know my hunter valley stuff so if you want a red from there I would recommend Mount Pleasant, Brokenwood or De Iuliis wines.
If I was you I would buy this http://www.winestar.com.au/de-iuliis-limited-release-hunter-…
98 Points from Halliday and should last around 30+ years. You had better be quick though on this one, it will sell out quick.
Another important note is that you can ring or email the winemakers and they will always get back to you. Asking a winemaker how long a certain wne will last or when its best time to drink is a very valid and commonly asked question.
Thanks for this! Might email the 3 places you suggested from Hunter =)
I would go with a good bottle of Vintage port, these are designed to age in the bottle, are ribust and will go the distance if stored correctly
Any bottle of red that is 21 years of age can be problematic - I challenge anyone that has had old great wine to say hand on heart that they have never had one that tastes like it is over the hill
Picking how well a wine will age is, at best, a well intentioned guess… we have one wine in our portfolio currently that I jokingly tell customers will, "outlive me", and from its characteristics, I expect it to settle & improve for many years to come…
But that remains a guess (or assumption, or estimate). As has previously been mentioned, storage plays a huge part. What could make an aged wine even more special though (even if wine buffs don't rate it), is if there's a story attached to it… for instance, you unveil a bottle of plonk that you and your partner both discovered and loved on an outing to Winery XYZ… so you bought a couple of dozen and stored them for such a special occasion… the very fact that the wine has a story attached to it will add something to the wine, even if it's , "Cworrr blimey, I'm glad we're better at raising our wonderful daughter than picking wine…"
I have a 10 year old bottle of Shiraz in my personal collection, which is likely at its prime now, but I'll save it for a very special occasion, like catching up with the friends I was with the day I purchased it… admittedly this is a little harder to do if you're not a wine drinker (but it's never to late to start).But don't necessarily be blinded by price, or a label. Talk to friends and wine drinkers and get their feedback.
just buy your newborn a bunch of newspapers printed on the day.
She was born at night after a really long labour… We have no newspapers from the day =(
You can store wine by the bottle or case in professional storage ie cellarit or wineark for about 3 dollars per bottle per year
Wow, the ones I looked up weren't that cheap, will have a look at these two, thanks!
Wine can also easily go bad, unless you have the perfect cellaring setup for the next 21yrs.
Could also try a decent spirit which will age well? That way when/if she opens it in 21yrs she can savour it over the next 6 months if she wants :)