Paint Protection. Yay or Nay?

Hello my people… Picking up my new car this coming up Monday and wondering if I should get paint "protection" apply to the car? People kept on telling me to get it done by professional and I'm just wondering if ozbargain think its really worth it. I was told its going to cost somewhere between $800-$1000… I never had any type of paint protection to my previous car and they car got keyed so badly I have to get it re-spray. So now I'm thinking if paint protection will be worth it?

Cheers

Poll Options

  • 7
    Yes
  • 135
    No
  • 7
    Bikies

Comments

  • +14

    Get a professional detailer to do it rather than the dealership.. It will save you money and be better quality

  • are we talking about a protection film being pasted onto your car? that would certainly help.

  • +10

    No amount of "paint protection" is going to protect your car from key damage. I wouldn't pay the money to get it done at dealer as a good car care routine is cheaper and better.

    Do you care about the glossiness of your car? If YES -> learn to wash and wax your car or take it to a detailer (not those car wash places).

    If NO -> just continue what you're doing.

    • +2

      Different products.

      Good paint protection isn't for glossiness, it's for easy maintenance.

      Edit: Cheap paint protection is a high quality wax.

  • not from the dealership
    only from a professional detailer

  • +6

    If you want to spend a grand or so get a qualified detailer to put a ceramic coating like Opticoat pro. Dont know about others brands but opticoat pro has 7 year warranty as long as you keep your car reasonably clean. I got it on my car and it makes it much easier to keep clean in the first place. Dirt and crap just wipes off with no effort when washing, and I never need to polish. Certainly won't protect against serious scratches like keying though.

    • +2

      Polish will destroy your finish. Never polish a ceramic resin paint protection.

    • hi, are you able to recommend someone in Sydney?

  • I'm pretty new to the whole "paint protection" thing. All it does is to make your car look shinning new everyday or is there are other benefits to it?

    • It can make your car a little easier to clean.

    • +18

      It makes your wallet a lot lighter. 👍🏻

  • Paint protection will save your paint from peeling/decaying from long term sun/salt/water exposure over say 15 years. It's a great idea if always parked outdoors and in particular if you live near the beach or somewhere harsh.

    Paint protection also makes your car easier to clean with a hose rather than having to scrub.

    But as others have said, get a pro detailer to do it, not the dealer who will be adding 100% markup. This is how dealers make money from addons like paint protection, tinting, floor mats etc.

  • +1

    How long do you intend to keep the car? Is it an exotic or just a run of the mill car?

    Are you wanting to get it done to make cleaning easier or for resale value?

    • +40

      i dont know man, Im a 21 year old uni grad working for westpac and dropping $80k on a car./s

      • +1

        Must be catching.

      • +2

        In that case, you must get paint protection, and get it from the dealer. If you don't you will not progress in life and be stuck with your $80k car with dull paint.

        • You don't get dull paint if you look after it. I just sold a five year old Landcruiser with no protection and the dealer refused to believe that I had no protection and no professional detailing. The paint was still like new. All I did was hand wash it whenever it was dirty.

        • @Ninjastud:

          You missed the sarcasm ninja..

        • +1

          @spillmill:

          Is that like the tooth fairy?

      • Well it's not when you think of the income ratio. In some countries, fresh grad assuming 38k per year (ignore currency conversion), basic car such as Suzuki Swift will cost them around $68-75k.

      • I think I'll get it when I move into the next stage of my life.

      • Seriously though what sort of car are you getting?

        • im trying not to say it or else this will turn into a troll post.

        • @michaelTito: It couldn't be worse than the 21 year old westpac 80k guy

        • @Quotationz:

          Haha just a Mazda 6. Cheers

  • Yea not yay.

    "Yay" is merely an informal exclamation.

    • nayyyyy

    • +2

      Huzzah!

      • +1

        Bingpot!

    • +1

      i thought it Yeah

  • +2

    The paint protection when done correctly will help in the longer run. If you plan to keep your car for more than 10 yrs then yes you can invest in paint protection. Other wise ignore it.

  • +1

    It's just a way of getting more money out of you, and won't stop any key damage.

  • yes! as long as it's from a professional detailer.

  • Whoever does it, find out what process they use. The dealerships sell 2 types, 1 which needs to be re-applied yearly (at a cost to you), one which is more hard-wearing and never gets re-applied.
    Certainly can get it done cheaper from detailers (I think even tint a car offer this now too), but find out what's involved.

    Any paint protection doesn't 100% protect you, you're still required to wash off bird shit as soon as you see it etc (you can't claim against bird shit damage just fyi).


    What colour is the car? That's really the main decider. Dark coloured cars benefit it most, even just to keep the clean look longer, but I don't see a point to it on white/silver cars tbh.

    • its a white car.

      well i dont think i will get paint protection then. park in garage at night and open air carpark day time.

      • Yeah I wouldnt bother, just learn to properly wax/polish it :)

        • hey Spackbace if you dont mind can i PM you? i have a quick question about insurance. (seeing that you're a car expert on this forum)

          cheers

        • +1

          @michaelTito:

          Feel free, I'll see if I can help lol

    • +2

      Ok and how did I end up watching cat videos?!

  • +1

    Just a waste of money :)

  • I wouldn't bother and I didn't when I purchased my new car. Dealers will charge you excessively, if you really want it get it done after market.

  • +2

    I have purchased a few new cars in my life. I had it applied on some, and didn't on others. I would not do it again. Waste of money, especially from a dealer.

    I would only consider if if I knew the car would have a tough life - e.g parked daily by the beach.

    It will offer zero protection from someone keying your car.

  • +2

    This is you OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Km59YlcJg :)

    Seinfeld's The Dealership episode segment with Puty.

    • +1

      the car i bought comes with 2 keys… i hope.

    • Keys! I am looking into buying a new car soon and expect a few "over-charges" also … I hope they give me two sets because I know they over-charge an arm and leg to replace a set. Grrr.

  • +1

    I recall paying extra for scotch-guarding on a new lounge suite. No way to tell if it was actually done but one small spill proved effectiveness was otherwise. I don't know much about paint protection but I understand it is for normal wear protection only. Nothing short of a big, nasty and over-protective dog (*see below if interested) will save your car from rat-bag vandals.

    • My old cattle dog left me stranded to cross a field to bark at a totally innocent man walking past my car once. No, he was not a nasty dog (never bit anyone) but he could get his priorities wrong. The only reason he was off the leash at the time was that I was doing off-the-leash obedience training. Yes I know; total fail.
  • Nay.

  • Plasti Dip. Best protection for your car.

  • +4

    Paint is protection.
    Now you want to protect the protection?

    • It's like asking to pay extra for a non-stick protection on a non-stick frying pan

    • +6

      double condom = safer

      • +1

        Triple condom = saber.

      • +4

        From past experience. When buying a new car you consider all these protection, and research intensely into it. 6 months later, I don't even wash the car anymore.

        • +3

          thats true. apply to everything else too. self phone, laptop, camera etc etc. even a girlfriend.

        • @michaelTito: Phone is another classic. Buy a slick phone, pad it with a chunky case and glass protector. Looks exactly like your previous phone after the padding. After 1 to 2 years of use, you realise the phone is in brand new condition yet you haven't ever been able to enjoy it the way it should of.

        • @zealmax:

          But you don't have a broken phone.

        • @spillmill: but I never enjoyed using it with the chunky case.

  • +2

    I had done on my current car. I won't have it done my next car.

    • +1

      Know that feeling. The sales girl had really nice cleavage. My father even warned me beforehand it would be some pretty girl.

      But, that cleavage… Any whoo.

      • Sounds like the last dealer I went to.

  • Why did you get keyed? What did you do?

    • +2

      parked at sydney west

  • Buy something like nanolex and wash and apply it once you drive it off the dealership. Cost $150 and 4 hours of your time. Worth doing if you don't like washing your car frequently. But make sure you use the right car wash stuff every time you wash.

  • +12

    Having spent 10 years in the automotive sales industry, I would advise that you do not take up the option of paint protection from the dealer - here's why.

    Those additional items offered to you by the 'aftermarket chick' at any dealership are all intended to serve a single purpose - help the dealer squeeze more gross profit out of the sale. These types of products have existed for years and are offered under a number of different brand names (Ming, 5th Dimension, MotorOne, etc…) but the business model for each of them is identical - they sell the various products and services to the dealer for quite a low price, then the dealer attempts to sell them to the customer (you) for a greatly inflated amount. For example, back when I was selling an application of paint protection cost around $90, the dealer would attempt to sell this for anywhere up to $2000, often offering it at a 'discounted price' of $850.

    Don't believe the pseudo-science on their shiny brochures, the products the dealer is offering are in no way more effective than other off-the-shelf products that you can pay a fraction of the cost for.

    • As I managed to get another $1,000 off already discounted price (I qualify for pensioner rego discount anyways), free GMH floor mats, mud flaps (? These things don't come included these days ?), full tank of fuel and Holden lock nuts I only agreed to the premium window film as an over-charge … since they don't advise seat covers that may bother the air bags (6 in this one). Hopefully this will help prevent sun damage to the seats, etc. I did not go with the paint protection.over-charge though. I was fairly surprised there were so many over-charges available, so I guess I was a tad mean. I pick up the new wheels next week.

  • -2

    Will jizz work well as paint protection? I'm a bit short on cash at the moment…

    • +1

      aye

    • +1

      Can you please protect my car, it's the one parked outside right now.
      When you're done, please send me a photo of it and PM me your paypal details.
      Thanks!

  • +1
    1. Get a professional detailer to do it, who will charge a smaller margin; I recommend seeking out one of the professional detailers listed on the detailparadise.com.au community for greater peace of mind. Opti-Coat and Cquartz are the most popular coatings.

    2. The price for a 'coating' will necessarily also reflect the work and items required by the detailer to prepare the car for a coating (which includes pre-foaming, chemical and physical decontamination, traditional washing, polishing and pre-application residue removal);

    3. Longevity of a coating is dependent on how the car is treated. Proper cleaning technique - prefoam, gentle two-bucket method with pH-neutral shampoo and drying using a leaf blower - will ensure it lasts five to ten years. They're not actually 'permanent', contrary to the marketing.

    • A leaf blower to help dry? Genius!

  • I've been using Carlack on my cars and motorbike for years. Top stuff. Bit expensive to buy but a bottle lasts a long time.

  • I would not bother as long as you wash the car regularly and wax the car at least once every six months.
    The wax product will cost $30 dollars from Super Cheap Auto and last for many years. It can be done in an hour after the car is washed.
    I have had up to 10 year old cars and the paint looks as new using this method.

  • +7

    Not from the dealership if you do. I picked up a new car recently too, the chick at toyota wanted 4.5k for exterior and interior protection plus $800 for tinting. I went down the road (to where toyota take them) and they offered to do the exterior protection for $800 and the tinting for $300.

    • +1

      LOL! You have my vote ho ho ho

    • True OBr … what we like to hear.

    • LOL. 4.5k for an at-most $300 coating, plus a few hours for prep. Unbelievable.

  • +1

    Vinyl wrap your new car. The paint will be like new under it when you take it off

    • Kinda defeats the purpose of protecting the paint though. You don't get to see it.

      • Look at you vinyl instead

  • +3

    I apply it myself. Labour of love as it takes me 6-8 hours to prepare the car, 2 hours to apply the coating, and all this has to be done on a nice warm dry day.

    It makes the car look freshly waxed, water slides of it along with any bird poo that's on the car, bugs don't stick as hard, and generally easier to clean+dry.

    It is all relative. On a $30k car for someone who doesn't really have an interest in cars or details, don't bother.

    On a six figure car, I'd say it's insane not to.

  • NAY!!
    I used to sell this at luxury car dealers and it is a total scam. Costs $60 per application including labour and we sold for $395. To keep you warranty you need to get an inspection done which nobody remembers to do so voids the warranty year 1.

    We also had instances with Mitsubishi vehicles paint where it stripped it 5 years later.
    Avoid and wax and polish your car even if you pay some to do it every year.

    • Contrary to what many people think, cars only come with a certain amount of clear. In the tens of microns. Polishing it every year to remove the scratches (excluding RIDS) most people allow their cars to incur will ensure there is no clear left after a decade, the result being hideous clear-coat failure for the poor sod who is usually the second or third owner. Not unlike tooth enamel. This is why protecting the paint from the start is paramount.

  • Depends on the car, Subaru has the worst paint and I got a small chip within 6 months and it rusted. Would have been fixed for free in the paint protection price.

  • Nay.

    You're getting ripped off. A detailer can do it much cheaper.

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