Gaming PC

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  Diji1 on 12/09/2016 - 23:14

  +2

  All looks good except PSU and possibly GPU:

  You will only need 500W PSU even with GTX 1070.

  GPU: what resolution is the monitor because this determines where the "sweet spot" is between cost and performance.

  Also you may/may not run out of space fairly quick with 128SSD depending on which games, you might want to consider adding a cheap SSD.

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    Kangal on 13/09/2016 - 02:04

    +1

    ^Pretty much this.

    Console gaming:
    ….1080p/30fps at Medium Settings.
    This is the best scenario, coming from the perspective of the PS4.

    For your baseline PC Gaming Experience:
    - Core i5-2500K
    - 8GB DDR3 (1333) RAM
    - GTX 680
    - 1TB (7,200rpm) HDD
    ….that should run all games at 1080p/60fps at High Settings
    These parts are 5+ years old, but very commendable.
    In fact, just swapping out that old gpu and a ssd should boost capabilities by a huge margin.

    For your "sweet spot" gaming experience:
    - Core i7-3770K
    - 16GB DDR3 (1866) RAM
    - GTX 980
    - 256GB (OS) SSD + 1TB (Steam) HDD
    ….that should run all games at 1440p/60fps at Ultra Settings
    (just buy these "outdated" parts now on special)

    For the "best" gaming experience:
    - Core i7-6700K (or better like 6850k)
    - 16GB DDR4 (2400) RAM (or more)
    - GTX 1070 (or better)
    - 1TB SSD Samsung 850 PRO (or faster)
    ….that should run all games at 4K/60fps at High Settings
    (this setup will cost you)

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      Kangal on 13/09/2016 - 16:19

      +1

      Just to give an idea on performance of these, we can use benchmarks to get an idea of their comparison.
      Obviously a game comparison is most ideal. And after going through everything, I've singled out GTA V.
      GTA V taxes both the GPU and the CPU hard (and memory), its a very well-balanced benchmark.
      However, I found it hard to find proper comparisons especially since some people use GTA V gameplay.
      Others use different settings, Nth Yankton mission, and some use the built-in benchmarker.
      So after careful consideration I've concluded on this:
      3DMark's Fire Strike (v1.1 Standard) Overall benchmark for comparison.

      So without further ado, here is how current-gen Consoles and PC's line up:

      XB1 Fire Strike (theoretical score): ~1,900
      PS4 Fire Strike (theoretical score): ~3,500
      PS4S Best case scenario (theoretical score): ~4,000
      PS4 Pro specs theoretical score: ~6,000
      Xbox One Pro/Scorpio rumoured theoretical score: ~10,000

      Baseline PC: ~7,000
      Sweet-spot PC: ~12,000
      Best PC: ~17,000 (or more)

      …and this whole thing was difficult to put together, but now people can reference this post in the future for convenience.

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  donnot on 12/09/2016 - 23:21

  Firstly, all motherboards have a similar failure rate, and cost usually reflects features, and not quality. The one you selected is alright, but (for a lower cost), you could go for a decent H170 board like this.

  16GB RAM is definitely nice to have these days, and into the future.

  For the graphics card, the 1070 would be my pick over the 980Ti if you're willing to spend that much, as it's based on a newer architecture and offers better performance and lower power consumption than the 980Ti. The "Ti" just indicates that it offers more performance than the base model. E.g. a GTX 660Ti would be faster than a GTX 660, but slower than the 670.

  As for the power supply, I'd suggest the EVGA Supernova G2 650W. It's based on the Superflower Leadex platform, and therefore a better option (as far as reliability, efficiency, and stability) than the (FSP?) based NEX650 (G1). EDIT: Probably an overkill power supply (as Diji1 said, you'll only really need 500W) so if you want to spend a bit less, something like this would be perfectly sufficient (only semi-modular though, and 3 years warranty as opposed to 7 with the G2).

  As for cases, very subjective but my suggestion would be the Inwin 303, which is a good all round case for the price point.

  As for cooling - I'd personally suggest buying an entry-level aftermarket cooler (the Gammaxx 400 you chose is a good option). If the PC is stored in a hot room, or you want less noise (slightly), an aftermarket cooler will definitely help. Obviously reduces the temperature of the CPU, taking heat away from the motherboard and potentially increasing the lifespan of components (negligible, not my greatest argument for aftermarket cooling).

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    Diji1 on 13/09/2016 - 00:22

    -2

    I disagree about the jump to H170 chipset - it's really not needed in a budget gaming system. There is marginal potential performance increases for a lot more money.

    Also see no reason to spend extra money on a 650W CPU as I stated. I would get a Corsair CX500 which is cheap, efficient, super quiet and available in semi and full modular for very little extra on top of the non-modular price.

    I don't see any reason to buy an after market cooler given the stock cooler is effective and pretty quiet already. You can always add one later for noise reasons.

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      donnot on 13/09/2016 - 01:02

      Was just highlighting the fact that you could get a H170 board cheaper than the B150 "gaming" model.

      As for the power supply, I couldn't seem to find the CX500 in modular anywhere in stock :/. The G2 adds an extra 4 years warranty and higher efficiency (Gold vs Bronze, which can save a bit in power over the lifetime of the build, offsetting some of the initial cost). Won't save much, there's only ~5-7% difference between the two at high-full loads, maybe $5 per year.

      Apart from that, can't really compare the CX500 to the G2 as far as quality and reliability (cheaper capacitors, components, and build quality in general).

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  Zylam Marex on 13/09/2016 - 01:26

  All good expect for GPU, you don't build a pc everyday, I'd say pick up at least a 1070 and you'd be set for a good few years. Also yea PSU is a little over kill.

  Also 256 SSD's usually go for around 60-70, maybe add that in too and just use the 128 in an enclosure as a fast external drive, games are pretty heavy these days and installing them on the HDD would be a loss of performance.

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  igreen on 13/09/2016 - 04:59

  Hi Guys,

  Thanks for the feedback. I have updated my initial post with the suggestion

  qts
  Graphics: 1070 Which brand would be good (reliability and feature) - Price from 639 - 7xx
  HDD: 250Gb - Any brand that is a good quality without breaking the bank
  If I have to get all my components from one or two vendor who would it be?

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    matabuntu on 13/09/2016 - 10:08

    PSU - Corsair 500

    This cx500 is for budget pc build and contain cheap parts. For a balanced build better go with antec tpc550 or antec hcg520 for just a little bit more money. This psu tier list is a good source if you want quick reference.

    Depending on your location (I assume sydney) you can go to msy ultimo. They do not sell inwin case but there are alternatives.

    My partlist recommendation (in stock at the time of writing):
    Seagate 3.5" Barracuda 2TB HDD $96.00
    Antec HCG-520M 520W High Current Gamer PSU $99.00
    Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 Black USB3.0 Mid Tower $85.00
    Sandisk Ultra II 240G SSD $99.00
    Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB Kit (8Gx2) DDR4 2133 Desktop RAM $105.00
    Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz CPU $273.00
    ASRock Fatal1ty H170 Performance Motherboard $149.00
    Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming 8GB GPU $689.00
    Total $1,595.00

    Note:
    * Case is very personal however if your budget allows you can opt for Fractal Define R4/R5 for a solid silent case.
    * Asrock h170 fatal1ty over gigabyte hd3 - simply more features e.g. usb type-c, better audio chip alc1150 plus headphone amp, better power phase, cheaper price
    * Sandisk Ultra II - I personally prefer samsung 850 evo but no stock atm.
    * GPU - deals on GPU showing up here very often, example is https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/265541 which can save you over $100

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      igreen on 13/09/2016 - 23:45

      Yes, My location is Sydney.

      Damn, only Leadtek GPU are available. Some post says it heats up since it is Founders Edition.

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    donnot on 13/09/2016 - 10:13

    If you don't mind paying a bit for shipping (~50 usually), PCCG is pretty good and stocks all the components you've chosen. Might save a bit if you buy some of the components (e.g. SSD, Motherboard…) from somewhere like MSY, but won't save a huge amount.

    As for an SSD, the Sandisk SSD Plus is a decent drive (~$90). Not the best performing in benchmarks, but you won't notice the difference in everyday use or gaming/video editing.

    As for the 1070, maybe look around Ozbargain (posts like these can save you a bit compared to PCCG. The MSI in that post is a good choice.

    If you want to buy from PCCG, the $679 EVGA SC version is also good.

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    Derekhuang24 on 13/09/2016 - 13:25

    In my opinion , I would avoid the coolers that suck in air for the 1070. The fan ones are typically better. Brand doesn't really matter, choose which one you like the look of. I use a MSI GTX1070 gaming X And it is dead silent, the fans don't spin

    For SSD I use a Samsung 850 evo, popular SSD. 20 dollars more than the ultra II though.

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      igreen on 13/09/2016 - 23:47

      Yes, I will go for the Samsung. I was planning of building this computer for his birthday in Mid Nov. I hope there is another group deal with the good GPU so that I can pick it up. Would keep my eyes on OZbargain

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        Derekhuang24 on 14/09/2016 - 09:09

        Pretty hard to find deals on Samsung SSDs these days. You can get 20% off from buying from Ebay right now on their spring deal. Prices may drop in SSDs if you decide to wait though. And yeah avoid the Leadtek brand, maybe at a cheap price but I do not know, could be cheaply made and may have lower clock speeds.

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  alvian on 13/09/2016 - 23:50

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