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Fissler Steelux Fry Pan 28cm for EUR 90.41 (~AUD $179) Delivered @ Amazon Spain

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Fissler Steelux Fry Pan 28cm for EUR 90.41 (~AUD $179) Delivered @ Amazon SpainAffiliate
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I had my eye on this piece of fine steak cooking apparatus. However I wasn't in the mood to shell out $319.00 from Fissler Australia or Myer.

This thing is heavy, solid, and judging by the reviews should be able to cook a mean steak. Just don't use it to cook eggs.

This fry pan should last a very long time.
Cable of being used in just about anything. Oven safe, so save time having to wash an extra roasting tray after pan frying your steak.

Add the Fissler splatter guard which will prove useful in making your fried food extra crispy, as it will let the moisure out without oil splattering on your stove.

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  • Benno123 on 10/09/2016 - 22:59

    What makes this better than a $30 cast iron fry pan for cooking steak, specifically?

    • djcharliek on 11/09/2016 - 00:00
      +1

      Even heat distribution

    • garage sale on 11/09/2016 - 01:51
      +2

      it can go into a dishwasher for a start and unlike steel based pans, ans you don't need to oil them to stop rust after you clean them. I only use steel crepe pans as there is always lots of butter used and once seasoned they have the right amount of stick to allow the pan tilt and spread the batter.

      cast iron isn't actually a good conductor of heat but it holds a lot of heat.

      my favourite pan is Demetyre proline but at $250 per pan there are probably other kitchen items people need more.

    • garage sale on 11/09/2016 - 01:55
      +1

      the fissler has dimples on the bottom so the oil gets under all parts of the steak to stop it sticking ….. I've had never had problems with steak sticking to stainless steel pan but with fish or chicken the fissler really shows how their dimple texture works.

    • jazoom on 11/09/2016 - 08:04

      In my experience the cast iron pan is perfect. Just stick the steak in the middle. Problem solved.

      Bonus: it also becomes non-stick after a while.

  • chir0nex on 10/09/2016 - 23:10

    All Fissler's were 40% off today at Myer's super saturday, that made this $191.
    Not too much more if you cbf shipping.

  • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 10/09/2016 - 23:12
    +1

    that thing looks difficult to clean

    • llama on 11/09/2016 - 03:22

      Difficult compared to what?

      It's a stainless steel pan, it doesn't get much easier to clean than that.

      • Scab on 11/09/2016 - 08:14

        The dimples and hollow handle would make it more difficult.

      • garage sale on 11/09/2016 - 08:53
        +1

        easy to clean just put some water in it when finished and you are eating dinner and later put it into the dishwasher. problem can be if you leave burnet oil or jun on a stainless pan it looks dirty ….. cast iron and steel being dark you don't notice burnt on oil and it actually becomes part of the seasoning.

        • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 12/09/2016 - 01:07

          Thats a great point, but unfortunately not everyone has a dishwasher, and not everyone are in a situation where they can just buy one or use one (i.e. rental property/houseshare situation). The dimples and hollow points definitely make it harder to clean, and steel wool may not help in this situation, although a wire brush might.

        • Scab on 12/09/2016 - 19:04
          -1

          You shouldn't put stainless steel in a dishwasher.

        • llama on 12/09/2016 - 23:00

          @Kleetus:

          LOL - WOT?

          Almost everybody uses cutlery made of Stainless Steel. You reckon that shouldn't be put in a dishwasher?

          Furthermore, have you looked inside a dishwasher and noticed what it's lined with? Stainless Steel.

          I cannot think of a metal that is BETTER in a dishwasher than Stainless Steel… you must be thinking of something else.

        • llama on 12/09/2016 - 23:03

          @nairdajun:

          not everyone are in a situation where they can just buy one

          People who don't have the means to own a dishwasher are hardly likely to be purchasing a frypan that normally costs over $300.

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 05:22
          -1

          @llama:

          Read up, you should not put stainless in a dishwasher.

        • Duff5000 on 13/09/2016 - 09:32

          @Kleetus:

          If you are making the claim then you let us know why.

          Edit: That isn't to say that i think you should wash all your cookware in there. SS frying pans should be seasoned and done by hand and you really shouldn't need soap.

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 09:50
          -1

          @Duff5000:

          It's accepted wisdom not to put stainless in the dishwasher as it's too harsh.

          Use Google, you have the internet.

        • Duff5000 on 13/09/2016 - 10:00

          @Kleetus:
          Almost everyone reading this will be washing stainless cutlery in the dishwasher. Almost every commercial business does as well.
          If it was the accepted wisdom that dishwashers were too harsh for SS then why would they line the insides with it? Also why would they bother giving you a cutlery rack?

          This is the problem of making blanket statements with vague "google it" suggestions as a source.

          I have SS stuff that has been washed in the dishwasher for 10 years and it is still fine.

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 10:07

          @Duff5000:

          Cutlery doesn't matter as you don't cook with it, it's the minute scratches in pots and pans from dishwashers that deteriorate the surface.

          The lining of the inside of the dishwasher being stainless is irrelevant, again, you aren't cooking with it.

          Using your same simplistic logic, you'd be OK putting metal in a microwave, after all, the microwave is lined with metal?

          And how many times you've done it is again irrelevant.

          I could cross the road blindfolded and make it unharmed, doesn't mean it's smart or safe.

        • Duff5000 on 13/09/2016 - 13:48

          @Kleetus:
          There is an important distinction between what you just said and what you said before.

          You shouldn't put stainless steel in a dishwasher.

          and:

          It's accepted wisdom not to put stainless in the dishwasher as it's too harsh.

          Are just plain wrong as you just explained.

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 16:11
          -1

          @Duff5000:

          There is no distinction.

          And again, you'd be OK putting metal in a microwave, because it's lined with metal, right?

        • llama on 13/09/2016 - 18:03

          @Kleetus:

          Cutlery doesn't matter as you don't cook with it

          Yeah, so what? Why are you now changing the story to only apply to cooking?

          it's the minute scratches in pots and pans from dishwashers that deteriorate the surface.

          Scratches from dishwashers = ROFL, yeah right.

          Who cares? The spoons, scrapers, etc all scratch the surface too - FAR more viciously that a little bit of 60°C water is going to scratch it. And what about scouring pads, they are many orders of magnitude more abrasive… in fact that's the whole idea!

          Nobody loves stainless steel, it's not a precious metal.

          You need to explain WHY you are making these crazy comments.

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 18:09
          -1

          @llama:

          Yeah, so what? Why are you now changing the story to only apply to cooking?

          Nobody has changed the story, when I posted stainless steel, it was in context to this topic, which is about a frypan.

          Go figure.

          You need to explain WHY you are making these crazy comments.

          You make it sound like it's just me saying it, plenty of people and sites recommend you don't.

          Nobody loves stainless steel, it's not a precious metal.

          Where did anyone say it was, and how is the value relevant?

        • llama on 13/09/2016 - 18:27

          @Kleetus:

          Nobody has changed the story, when I posted stainless steel, it was in context to this topic, which is about a frypan

          OK, ummm…. OK.

          So, still avoiding the answer to WHY, I see.

          You make it sound like it's just me saying it, plenty of people and sites recommend you don't.

          Oh really - well it's the first I have ever heard of this. Truly must be the stuff of urban myth.

          I actually DID Google, and found not one single shred of reason as to why not. They all seem to say the same as you "everyone else seems to think it's not a good idea"

          Since I come from an engineering background, I question things. I want to know WHY and I want to know what adverse effect it has.

          Where did anyone say it was, and how is the value relevant?

          I have absolutely no idea - I'm just trying to guess what harm will come to the (non-precious) stainless steel. I am assuming you think it will wear thin over time, or something?

          Aluminium = yeah, the alkali in the detergent corrodes most (cheap) alloys.

          Wood = yeah, the heat and alkali pulling out the natural oils is not gunna be much good for it.

          But stainless steel… in what way will it get harmed, and why should anyone care?

        • Scab on 13/09/2016 - 18:36

          @llama:

          So, still avoiding the answer to WHY, I see.

          The discussion was about this frypan, my reply was in context to that discussion.

          You're just playing semantics to try to score a point.

          Oh really - well it's the first I have ever heard of this.

          So what, because you've never heard of it, it can't be possible?

          I am assuming you think it will wear thin over time, or something?

          You really have no idea just how powerful and harsh dishwashing detergent is.

          I value my cookware, it's the reason all my stuff still performs and looks like new, even non-stick.

        • llama on 13/09/2016 - 18:50

          @Kleetus:

          The discussion was about this frypan, my reply was in context to that discussion

          Yes, of course…. however you still haven't answered WHY the stainless steel frypan, or whatever, will be damaged.

          So what, because you've never heard of it, it can't be possible?

          WHAT can (or can't) be possible?

          You really have no idea just how powerful and harsh dishwashing detergent is.

          You really have no idea how strong and tough and chemical resistant modern stainless steel alloy is.

          I value my cookware, it's the reason all my stuff still performs and looks like new

          I treat my cookware as a tool. It's the reason all my stuff still performs and looks like new.

          It's stainless steel for a reason - I treat it with contempt, and it goes in the dishwasher, in the oven, it gets oven cleaner sprayed on it when things become encrusted. I use metal utensils to stir my food and this scratches the interior surface. I use stainless steel scouring pads, and steel wool. I use wet and dry paper to remove the worst damage, and every so often I use a bit of metal polish to buff it up.

          And guess what? It still cooks exactly the same, and it won't wear out in my lifetime.

          So, in what way does this mythical damage occur to the stainless from the weak alkali of a dishwasher? Is there a scientific study about it? Or just a foodie rumour? What is the degree of damage caused, in comparison to normal wear and usage?

        • Duff5000 on 13/09/2016 - 22:52

          @Kleetus:

          There is no distinction.
          And again, you'd be OK putting metal in a microwave, because it's lined with metal, right?

          You misunderstand.

          There is a difference between saying:
          "you shouldn't put stainless in a dishwasher"
          "…accepted wisdom not to put stainless in the dishwasher"

          And what you then when on to say:
          "Cutlery doesn't matter as you don't cook with it, it's the minute scratches in pots and pans from dishwashers that deteriorate the surface."

          The first two are obviously incorrect. The 3rd is a different point, one which is not exactly clearly proven.

          And again, you'd be OK putting metal in a microwave, because it's lined with metal, right?

          Actually yes, you can….

        • Duff5000 on 13/09/2016 - 23:11

          @llama: Given Kleetus hasn't come up with anything i will cover the downsides.

          Obviously the original claim of SS not being dishwasher safe is nonsense. The further claim about it mattering for cookware has an element of truth to it.

          SS cookware can be discoloured or left with watermarks when washed in a dishwasher. Bigger problem if you have hard water but we dont here in Melbourne. Also, if your SS frying pan is properly seasoned you will strip your non stick coating using detergent.

          So, if you want your pots to look like new for some reason, wash and dry by hand immediately. If you dont care that they look used then just wash however you like.

          I have used our SS set for 15 years now and they all work perfectly well.

          Edit: http://bestcookwarefinds.com/how-to-clean-stainless-steel-co…
          "Many manufacturers state that their stainless steel cookware is dishwasher safe but if you read more closely, they recommend hand washing.
          While the dishwasher will not damage your stainless steel pots, the harsh detergent might stain it a bit."

        • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 14/09/2016 - 02:08

          @llama:
          I think that's a very bold generalisation. Unfortunately I think you shouldn't assume that.

          If you live in a house share property, sometimes you will not have access to a dishwasher or even freedom to use one.

          Just because one does not have access to a dishwasher does not mean they won't appreciate having decent cookware. Communal house share cookware usually is cheap and/or old.

          I may not have access to a dishwasher but I can afford an ANOVA precision cooker, and if it was worthwhile for me to invest in a good pan (like this potentially) that will last me a long long time, I wouldn't mind paying this.

        • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 14/09/2016 - 02:14

          @Duff5000:

          Just to support your point, all Japanese cooking knife manufacturers do not recommend putting your knives in the dishwasher, they recommend you hand wash. Highly abrasive chemicals that are sometimes used in dishwasher products can tarnish the metal.

          There's no way I would put any of my Japanese knives that cost upward of $80 each in an environment where something can potentially chip the blade.

          If I forked out $200+ on a pan id be careful to hand wash it too. Same way you would hand wash expensive clothes

        • Scab on 14/09/2016 - 05:59
          -1

          @Duff5000:

          Obviously the original claim of SS not being dishwasher safe is nonsense.

          Again, that was in context of the frypan, which is what this thread is about. Don't play semantics.

          Actually yes, you can

          That analogy was to show how flawed your simplistic thinking is.

          Just because a microwave is lined with metal doesn't mean metal is suitable for use.

          Just like your other claim that it must be OK as a dishwasher is lined with metal.

        • Duff5000 on 14/09/2016 - 09:35

          @Kleetus:

          Again, that was in context of the frypan

          You could have added one word to avoid the sweeping generalisation of "you shouldn't put stainless steel in a dishwasher". That is your fault, not mine.

          When someone pointed out "Almost everybody uses cutlery made of Stainless Steel." you didn't clarify your position to only be cookware, you defended it with.

          Read up, you should not put stainless in a dishwasher.

          Only after that did i reply. Sure you can claim you didn't mean that now but it was pretty clear earlier on you were not just talking about cookware. If you were you did a pretty poor job of making that clear.

          That analogy was to show how flawed your simplistic thinking is.

          So you an analogy that was wrong to attempt to show my thinking as simplistic? lol. You can use foil in a microwave. Also, me saying cutlery and the inside of the washer are stainless so you are incorrect is not simplistic thinking. It is logic.

          Anyway, seems obvious you are one of these people that has problems admitting they were wrong. Dont worry, i won't reply again to this absurd thread.

        • Scab on 14/09/2016 - 10:11
          -1

          @Duff5000:

          You could have added one word to avoid the sweeping generalisation of "you shouldn't put stainless steel in a dishwasher".

          You could have not played semantics, it was a discussion about cleaning the frypan and the dishwasher was suggested.

          It's bleeding obvious we were talking about cookware and nothing else.

          So you an analogy that was wrong to attempt to show my thinking as simplistic?

          You stated that stainless must be OK because a dishwasher is lined with it.

          So much for blanket statements.

        • llama on 14/09/2016 - 11:25

          @nairdajun:

          l Japanese cooking knife manufacturers do not recommend putting your knives in the dishwasher

          Yes, however high quality Japanese knives aren't usually made of stainless. And they have non-dishwasher-safe handles too. Correct?

          Anyway, the thing about knives in dishwashers is more about the sharp edge knocking against other metal objects, which will obviously harm it. You specifically mention this risk yourself.

          Highly abrasive chemicals that are sometimes used in dishwasher products can tarnish the metal.

          Dishwashers don't use ANY form of abrasives. It uses hot water and a mild alkali solution to chemically convert the fats to a form of soap, which makes them water soluble. This won't harm stainless steel.

          Stainless steel is manufacturered to not tarnish. That is what the term "STAINLESS" refers to. In any case, it is not reactive to the mild alkali used in dishwashers.

          If I forked out $200+ on a pan id be careful to hand wash it too. Same way you would hand wash expensive clothes

          Your frypan will not be chipped by a dishwasher. A stirring spoon will cause more damage - and that is minimal, expected and in no way "harms" a pan anyway. It's a pan used for cooking, which is a utility task and certain amounts of scuffing is to be expected.

          As for the analogy of hand washing expensive clothes, that is just ridiculous.

          We are talking about a FRYPAN… if it is so bloody delicate that it will be harmed by a dishwasher, it is certainly far too deleicate to be ever used on a stove… oh my god, the heat might cause it to loose it's hardness, or create uneven thermal repositioning in the molecular structure of the metal! Placing food in it might cause a smell to be imparted on it, even if not detectable by the nose, it WILL affect the taste of your cooking! Using a spoon or spatula might cause microscratching that has been proven by scientists using electron microscopes to weaken the bonds between the metal atoms that will cause the edge to go blunt… oh, wait. ROFL

        • KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 14/09/2016 - 20:38

          @llama: Global knives are made out of stainless steel man, it says it all over the blade. Yes its CROMOVA and has chromium and other additives, but it is still about 95% iron.

          CROMOVA, VG10, are just all grades/types of stainless steel. It is still inherently 95% iron.

          Just because its stainless steel doesnt mean it cannot tarnish..its just more difficult to tarnish. Its not "stain proof". How do i know this? i have a stained global knife. Also because its stainless, doesnt mean it doesnt rust, it just takes longer

          My point was that it looks difficult to handwash, bringing up dishwashers isnt a valid solution for my concern. Consequently saying that it would be silly to buy this without a dishwasher doesnt solve my problem

        • llama on 14/09/2016 - 22:34

          @nairdajun:

          Global knives are made out of stainless steel man, it says it all over the blade.

          Oh, sorry - I made the assumption you were referring to high quality Japanese knives.

          CROMOVA, VG10, are just all grades/types of stainless steel. It is still inherently 95% iron.

          Yes, and so what? The human body is 95% water, but that doesn't make it water soluble when it rains.

          The additives added to the iron is what makes it "Stainless". It's an alloy, it's no longer iron.

          Just because its stainless steel doesnt mean it cannot tarnish..its just more difficult to tarnish. Its not "stain proof". How do i know this? i have a stained global knife

          Serves you right. However if it bothers you then polish it… it's not hard. (and LOL the blades aren't hard either)

          Oh, and that stain wasn't from a dishwasher was it? It was from…. FOOD.

          My point was that it looks difficult to handwash, bringing up dishwashers isnt a valid solution for my concern.

          Well, that's your problem. The fact that the majority of the community can comprehend that a dishwasher is a labour saving device doesn't mean that you have to agree.

          As for your concern, what is it?

          Consequently saying that it would be silly to buy this without a dishwasher doesnt solve my problem

          LOL WOT? Nobody said that.

          If you don't like this product then don't buy it. I don't like it either - I would never cook a steak in a pan like that, as it would stew. Also, I also couldn't be arsed cleaning fiddly designer-wank dimples like this thing has on the bottom. I have some non-stick pans like that and they are a nightmare.

  • djcharliek on 10/09/2016 - 23:59

    Dishwasher…..

  • OhPee on 12/09/2016 - 07:44

    I have had a set of Tramontina cookware for more than 20 years. It has a three layer base (from memory it has copper and aluminium core) distributes heat well. Not sure if they sell here in Australia i picked it up in PNG when i was working there. Made in Brazil and absolutely brilliant. But I still use a nicely seasoned cast Pan to cook a steak on if i don't want to use the Barbecue.

    • djcharliek on 12/09/2016 - 18:36

      They have them at costco

    • djcharliek on 12/09/2016 - 18:36

      They have them at costco

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