New Dual SIM Phone

Waynes world on 05/09/2016 - 14:53
Last edited 05/09/2016 - 17:52

I've purchased a Moto G4 Plus, before I realised it was missing the magnet/compass that I need for Satellite Finder apps.

I know I don't want much cough but here is what I am looking for…'

5-5.5" screen
Octa-Core (prefer 2GHz+ on 4)
Dual SIM (Dual Active)
Dedicated SD slot
32GB/2GB (prefer 64GB/3or4)
Magnet/Compass
B28

And of course the usual BT,GPS,WiFi etc

ALL without the price tag of a SGS7!

There are many Dual SIM phones which come close but are usually missing 1 of these specs - SIM2/SD shared slot, or no B28.

I still lack a bit of understanding with respect to the 700MHz bands. I know B28 is 'required' for Australia. I note that there are other 700 bands. Are any of those suitable?

edit: I've also discovered 2 more things today…

  1. I can't keep it charged. I think this is largely due to the Dual SIM. So I think a 4,000mAH is a good start.
  2. I think I need Dual Active SIM. Haven't found too many that do this. this is a Work/personal phone, and I absolutely need work calls to interrupt Personal. Forwarding Work calls on Busy to Personal is not ideal either as there is a chance it will hit my Personal voicemail.
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Comments

  • scrimshaw on 05/09/2016 - 18:09
    +1

    The Zenfone 2 is tested to be dual Sim, Dual Active
    https://www.asus.com/zentalk/in/thread-8926-1-1.html

    https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE550ML/

    Other models include
    LG G3 D858 (note, no B28)

    ASUS ZenFone Selfie ZD551KL 32GB (Taiwan version) (has B28 and dual sim standby) but this has Octa-core and also Marshmallow support.

    Don't forget you're also looking for a phone whose modem supports two transceivers which can both access 3G.. It's no use if the second SIM slot does 2G only.

    Telstra and Optus are shutting down 2G very soon.

    I know B28 is 'required' for Australia.

    No, it isn't. B28 is not a 'hard' requirement… it might be useful to have if you are ever out of metro areas where reception is poorer.

    • pyramid on 05/09/2016 - 18:26
      +1

      Hey, do you know if LG G3 D858 supports 3G on both sim at the same time.

      • scrimshaw on 05/09/2016 - 18:27
        +1

        My 3 sources are from the Kogan website, from Whirlpool and from NDTV

        The LG G3 D858 Dual Sim 4G LTE combines style, substance and simplicity to create a practical phone that is a pleasure to use.

        4G TD-LTE connectivity means faster, smoother browsing, and the Dual Active support lets you make and receive calls and text messages from two different phone numbers

        HOWEVER, this is an old phone from years back and it's not 3G on the second SIM. So it's useless unless you want to use a VODA service on SIM2.

  • emjones on 05/09/2016 - 18:24
    +1

    I would recommend ASUS Zenfone 2 or Elephone P8000. (closest to your requirement)

  • Waynes world on 05/09/2016 - 18:28
    +1

    I do venture to non metro areas for work so B28 should remain on my spec list.

    According to your link scrimshaw, and GSMArena, the Zenfone 2 appears to only support 2G on SIM 2.

    • scrimshaw on 05/09/2016 - 18:49
      +1

      i've parsed some data from GSM arena and these are the results of my search.

      filters: phones with dual sim, >5 inches big, B28 700mhz support, made after 2014

      Mobile name Size Display Processor Memory Battery SIM Type
      Samsung Galaxy J7 (2016) 5.5 720x1280 pixels Snapdragon 617 16 GB, 2 GB RAM Removable Li-Ion 3300 mAh battery Dual Standby
      samsung Galaxy J5 (2016) 5.2 720x1280 pixels Snapdragon 410 16 GB, 2 GB RAM Removable Li-Ion 3100 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Oppo F1s 5.5 720x1280 pixels Mediatek MT6750 32 GB, 3 GB RAM Non-removable 3075mAh battery dual stand-by
      Samsung Galaxy J7 5.5 720x1280 pixels Snapdragon 615 16 GB, 1.5 GB RAM Removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Huawei P9 lite 5.2 1080 x 1920 pixels HiSilicon Kirin 650 16 GB, 2/3 GB RAM Non-removable 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Asus Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Intel Atom Z3580 16/32/64 GB, 2/4 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by, dual active
      Motorola Moto G4 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Snapdragon 617 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Asus Zenfone 3 Max ZC520TL 5.2 720x1280 pixels Mediatek MT6737M 16 GB, 2 GB RAM or 32 GB, 3 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Po 4130 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 5.5 720 x 1280 pixels Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615 16 GB, 2 GB RAM or 32 GB, 3 GB RAM Removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Asus Zenfone 3 Laser ZC551Kl 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Qualcomm MSM8937 Snapdragon 430 32 GB, 2 GB RAM or 64 GB, 4 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      HTC One X9 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Mediatek MT6795 Helio X10 32 GB, 3 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Motorola Moto X Play Dual SIM 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM Non-removable 3630 mAh battery dual stand-by
      Oppo R7s 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels Snapdragon 615 32 GB, 4 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Po 3070 mAh battery dual stand-by
      LG G3 Dual-LTE 5.5 1440x2560 Qualcomm MSM8975AC Snapdragon 801 32 GB, 3 GB RAM Removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery ? conflicting results online?
      Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE600KL 6 720x1280 pixels Snapdragon 615 16/32 GB, 2/3 GB RAM Removable Li-Po 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
      ZTE Blade V Plus 5.5 1080 x 1920 pixels MT6753 or Snapdragon 615 16 GB, 2 GB RAM Non-removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery dual stand-by
  • DesolateApophic on 05/09/2016 - 21:23
    +1

    If you get the ZenFone2, then get a strong case.. My battery overheated twice (on two occasions) after a small fall and now it is wrecked. Need a new phone.

  • Waynes world on 05/09/2016 - 21:34
    +1

    I sent a suggestion to GSMArena asking if they could add a Dual Standby/Active option in the Finder.

    @Desolate, Zenfone 2 is 2G only on SIM 2. Otherwise it'd be a contender.

  • Waynes world on 05/09/2016 - 22:19

    The Elephone is Dual Standby and no B28.

  • Japius on 06/09/2016 - 08:53
    +1

    https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2543939

    The whirlpool thread has some good replies and real world experiences with what will and wont work

    The wiki in that thread gives a full run down of bands and availability

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