Ethernet over Power Recommendation

As Title states. I'm looking for the best Ethernet Over Power for NBN. Minimum 2x devices.

Wifi is not strong enough upstairs as NBN box is downstairs.

Cheers!

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  • +4

    Put some Ethernet ports in. You can get all the stuff you need for less than $100 and it will take no more than an hour or so to do if you know your way around your house. One of the best decisions I've ever made - WiFi, Ethernet over Power and all of those solutions are rubbish compared to real Ethernet cables. Never had a single network dropout ever since I put them in, my experience with WiFi was atrocious, kept having to reset it.

    • The thing is, I'm renting and i'm yet to ask the landlord. Just seeing whats out there atm.

      If I do go ahead with an extra Ethernet upstairs, how will this work with the NBN box downstairs?

      • Run an ethernet cable from the router to the upstairs point you need.
        Install sockets and wall plates so it's all neat.
        Plug in ethernet cable from router to router wall plate downstairs
        Plug in ethernet cable from wall plate to device (or switch or upstairs WiFi AP) upstairs.

    • +3

      Probably more like 3 hours in reality (especially for a beginner), but still well worth doing.

      The caveat is that legally you need to be a licenced cabler to do any of the work.

      Since you're renting maybe propose to the landlord to split the cost of a cable install. It's a value add and they can claim it as an improvement anyway.

  • +1

    This is not really a suitable solution for somebody who is renting though.

  • In saying that, its not really an ideal solution as said by Smashed.

    I'll keep to my EOP option at this stage. Any suggestions?

    • the speed and performance powerline adapters will actually be VERY dependant on the quality of your electrical wiring and you can generally buy any EOP adapter you want, and it won't affect the outcome that much.

      In reality, the most pricey models will offer better performance but only marginally.

      So do not think that a '500Mbps' $120 dollar Kit will be twice as fast as a budget '200Mbps' $69 dollar kit. The speed that is quoted is just a theoretical maximum and not the actual speed in real life.

      You're mostly paying the extra for extra features, e.g there are plugs that feature AC pass-through or gigabit ports or built-in Wifi features.

      The reason nobody is giving you the answer you want in this thread is because of the reason outlined above: your mileage will vary.

  • +2

    This'll do the trick - it will even create a Wi-Fi access point upstairs for you without the need for a separate wireless router. I use Netcomm wireless products in my line of work and they are great - http://www.netcommwireless.com/product/500mbps-powerline-kit…

  • I was previously having trouble with my Telstra Cable router which is about 13m? away (along with 7 walls or so) from my room using the Wi-fi network. So the internet on the computer never drops, but during games you randomly freeze so I figured it was probably the signal dropping out for a few seconds every now and then.

    Recently purchased a stronger wifi adapter and haven't had a problem since. Went from 3-4 bars to 5 bars signal. http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-11_TL-WN822N.…

  • Powerline repeaters work ok for casual web browsing, but as the amount of traffic goes through them they have a SEVERE problem where they will choke and start to cause delays of over a second. If you know much about networking you can test, and you will see the pings go from 40-80ms shoot up to 1000+ ms. Terribly unstable for anything other than web browsing.

    Wifi extenders/repeaters can work, some dual band ones like the EX6200 use one band to connect to the main router (5ghz) and then provide a fully independant signal on the other band (2.4Ghz). I've found this to work quite well. This only works acceptably over one "hop" - you would find poor results using a second extender to get even further reach.

    Ethernet cables are by far the best, if at all possible this is the solution I would aim for – my recommendation would be to try your best to work something out with your landlord.

    We use R7000 as our main router and an EX6200 over a long ethernet cable.

    • I run a mac-mini running kodi in the loungeroom over powerline adapters back to my storage server - it streams Live HDTV (Tuner card), MKVs, AVIs with zero lag. It might be your wiring that causes issues, as mine is spot on.

      • Thats not surprising. Its fine until you reach the limit of the powerline adapter's connection speed. My house wiring has a new section and an old section. My tests were over about 15m across a few rooms, so I don't think the signal was amazing. Its definitely a case of your milage may vary - significantly. I tried both the older AV homeplug and the new AV2 homeplug devices with the same ultimate results.

        You should try some ping tests yourself while copying over some files across the network to saturate the link. You might be surprise, and I would be interested to hear your results!

  • +1

    Back in my rental days I ran a flat ethernet cable out the window and down the side of the building and back in another window… Wood sash windows allowed this to be perfectly "secure" from a physical security perspective and no issues with water ingress either.
    Wouldn't want to make it a permanent fixture, but if you're only there for 12-24 months, should do the trick.

  • Looks like there's a few options there.But I may stick to EOP.

    Any recommendations? Thanks for everyone's input!

  • I'm renting..currently running EOP

    I use TPLINK PA4010P-KIT since it doesn't 'waste' a power outlet completely. (I saw completely as it's quite wide)

    Got it when MSY stocked it for $79 and had Officeworks beat it. Now $89 so still alright..

    MSY: http://www.msy.com.au/viconline/network-device/14336-tp-link…

    OW: http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/tp-link-av5…

    Definitely faster than wifi, no problems with the units themselves yet for the last almost year :D

    • Thanks! I'll keep that in mind!

  • Another alternative to EoP, is a better wifi point. This is the one we have, it draws power from an Ethernet cable meaning you can mount it on the wall/roof (looks like a smoke alarm if your landlord asks). More expensive than entry level PoE and the LED is fairly bright but it's a great wifi access point.

    https://www.mwave.com.au/product/ubiquiti-networks-uapaclr-8…

    • I have an EOP which outputs a wifi hotspot and two ethnernet ports at the end. It really is the best of both worlds and I have been really happy with it so far. This one TL-WPA4220KIT. It also has the same one with AC pass through not to waste a power point. This is one: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TP-LINK-BUNDLE-TL-WPA4220KIT-300M…, costs about 100 with ebay 10$ off but solved all my connection issues and way better than buying a brand new modem router or cabling in my house where the roof space is limited.

  • I have 2 sets of these (4 adapters total) http://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Networking_-_Wired/Powerl…

    They replaced a mix of 200mbit adaptors from netcomm, netgear and wd.

    The 200mbit adaptors basically were my house network for years and were fine. My house is long and skinny and wifi doesn't penetrate the wall between the kitchen at the front where the modem is and the rest of the house. So I have a second wifi access point at the back of the house running off one EoP adapter, plus one in the bedroom and one in the study. 200mbit was only borderline fast enough to stream hd to the bedroom.

    I upgraded because after moving the bedroom to a different power point and extension lead it was no longer fast enough for hd. The 1200mbit adapters have solved that.

    That point is the worst in the house but I benchmarked a file transfer at 1.7MB/s on 200mbit and 3.5MB/s on the new 1200mbit. That will probably improve if I can get rid of the extension lead. All other points are reporting much faster connections in the tp link utility

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