Most of OzBargain Are Relatively Priveleged, Filthy Capitalists - A Short Rant

[Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 15:14
Last edited 07/07/2016 - 22:59

I am shocked to find that whinging about a homeless person living near your property, who has yet to cause you any direct trouble, is met with such sympathy/internet bravado. Whereas, the person who is homeless, simply meaning that they cannot afford a place to exist and is clearly suffering mental illness is denigrated. WHERE DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO GO?! You are like the bourgeois neighbours in "The Lady in the Van" (watch this movie and see if you don't feel distaste towards these people, you are them) - you don't care as long as it's not on your doorstep. Now, why don't you whinge more about how cruddy and selfish the world and society is, because not everyone respects the special parking rights you think you should have, as an able bodied individual. I am currently sickened by our community.

*edit: I thought "Filthy Capitalists" was hilarious given the nature of OzBargain, but I see some people are touchy and we are not comrades.

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  • loulou1 on 07/07/2016 - 15:17
    +13

    I read that post too and felt sad. I dare not comment on that post lest I be attacked by some angry people on here.

    • stemcell on 07/07/2016 - 17:23
      +7

      More commonly known as the ozbargain massive, they tend to congregate around deal posters and should you dare criticise they bully you. Woolfenstein I'm in with you on this one, I read the thread at lunch and was going to comment on it but then thought why bother trying to talk sense to society's lowest who in my opinion are far below the homeless man.

      Edit: I see this thread has attracted the same blowies from the old thread.

      • Wystri Warrick on 07/07/2016 - 17:56
        +4

        Same here, was going to comment but can't talk sense to them. I'm with you on this one woolfenstein.

  • Clear on 07/07/2016 - 15:26
    +2

    Ah yes the internet… brings out the best and the worst of people.

  • lainey13 on 07/07/2016 - 15:30

    So, what have you done personally over the last few years to help the many homeless and mentally ill people we have in Australia?

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 15:33
      +4

      Well, I didn't get on the internet and profanity all over them, for one. I have been homeless myself, but never a junkie or a criminal.

      Personally, about a month ago I let a homeless kid (adult, a couple years younger than me) stay at my house for the night. I give $5 to anyone who looks like they might be living rough, if they ask me for change. What have you done?

      • lainey13 on 07/07/2016 - 15:37

        Doesn't matter what I've done or not done, I didn't go telling a bunch of internet strangers why I was so much better than them :)

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 15:38

          Suuuuuuuuuuuuure. Good on you.

        • MrMcHairyHead on 07/07/2016 - 18:40
          +3

          Yes you did, just now.

      • ykwon10 on 07/07/2016 - 15:38
        +15

        I don't think people have a problem with him being homeless itself. People have a problem with him being homeless who is a junkie, leaving rubbish and needles everywhere and living in a private property owned by others. How would you feel if someone just roll over into your driveway and stay there, start injecting drugs, leaving needles around, etc?

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 16:23
          -5

          AFAIK and it had been stated many times in the original post, that the homeless person was not living on OPs private property but near OPs private property, on property which is not owned by OP. Furthermore, where did the needles actually come into this story?! It's not in the original post. All of a sudden the homeless guy became a junkie who harassed him every time he entered or left (though previously he didn't mention this? Hmm. The story seems a little… all over the place haha) It almost seems OP needed a bit more sympathy for his case after posting about how you get $600 a week being on the dole, so it's impossible to be homeless in Australia, unless you want to be chortles …

        • ykwon10 on 07/07/2016 - 16:36
          +1

          @woolfenstein:Since when carpark of your apartment complex is not considered as private property? If you made it that far reading through to $600 a week comment, how did you missed the first few comments regarding needles, cigg butts and rubbish around?

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 16:43

          @ykwon10: OP only brought up the needles after someone called him on his junkie assumption. You would think it would be the first thing mentioned since major re: safety. But I guess some trash and the fact that OP isn't allowed to free-camp in prime beach front locations as a relatively well-off individual is more important ;) … Asking for cigarettes!? How very dare this tramp deign to speak to one of us! I feel the exact same way about drunkards who've payed $30+ to be in a bar…

          Re: apartment complex - people had some very different ideas about privacy and property re: another poster not liking children playing on the shared driveway outside their bedroom window. Apparently the OzB crowd is clearly very woe is me, me, me.

        • ProspectiveDarkness on 07/07/2016 - 22:28

          @woolfenstein:

          OP only brought up the needles after someone called him on his junkie assumption

          He was providing backing to his statement, it's hardly unusual. You're only calling it an 'assumption' to paint it as a lie. 10/10 debating skills right there.

          Asking for cigarettes!? How very dare this tramp deign to speak to one of us!

          Try "harassing people every time they walk from their front door to their car". I don't know about you, but I personally don't like being harassed by regular people for cigarettes, let alone a mentally ill drug abuser who's set up outside my front door. Pull your head in and reign in the moral outrage.

      • No on 07/07/2016 - 17:18
        +1

        The fact that you just wrote your giving out $5 to needy people in this comment and your getting neg votes completely validates what you are saying.

  • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 16:35

    Also, why am I being negged for answering a question? I didn't ask/bring up the topic of my own philanthropy.

    • MrMcHairyHead on 07/07/2016 - 18:41
      +2

      So the assholes can find something to latch onto to justify their shitty behaviour.

  • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 16:51
    +1

    Where is this original post so we can see for ourselves?

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 16:52

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/255896

      • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 17:04
        +2

        Why couldn't you just raise your concerns within that thread?

        You will find most people, whether members of Ozbargain or not, will not like someone setting up camp outside their place.

        You don't have to be privileged or a Capitalist to not like someone squatting in front of your house.

        Whether you like it or not, a vagrant setting up camp will bring with it elements of uncertainty regarding one's own personal safety and the safety of their belongings. I am not suggesting this fellow is a violent thief, but people who do this come with questionable character.

        I would not have automatically called the perpetrator a scumbag, but overall I agree with SirLothie.

        Note for future : WHERE DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO GO?! is not a valid defence of setting up camp in front of someone's house.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:07

          Cos. You know people have this thing, where they can do whatever they want, and other people, namely you, don't need to approve their actions.

        • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 17:08
          +1

          @woolfenstein:

          So you believe people can do whatever they want? Thats your defence?

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:12

          @tsunamisurfer: > Why couldn't you just raise your concerns within that thread?

          Why shouldn't I just make my own thread?

          Why so facetious. But ah, they can. Absolutely. If you want to murder someone, you can, sure, if caught you will face consequences - but there is nothing stopping anyone doing anything besides their own psyche (unless they are physically confined ie: gaol etc). Accept you cannot control anyone's actions but your own, it will make many things easier.

        • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 17:15
          +4

          @woolfenstein:

          "Absolutely. If you want to murder someone, you can"

          Thank you for showing the Ozbargain Community your true self.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:21

          @tsunamisurfer: Eh? You've taken a small part of what I've said, removed it from the context it had, and given it it's own… and I don't fully understand what you mean. Do you insinuate I am a murderer? Haha. I can't say I mind. Woolfenstein the psychopath, has a ring to it.

        • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 17:32
          +2

          @woolfenstein:

          I don't need to take you out of context, that sentence indicates a significant separation from logic. This explains the rant.

          I wish you all the best in the future.

        • ProspectiveDarkness on 07/07/2016 - 22:31

          @woolfenstein:

          You know people have this thing, where they can do whatever they want, and other people, namely you, don't need to approve their actions.

          He says, in a thread bitching about someone else doing something he doesn't approve of.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 22:51

          @ProspectiveDarkness: Because having a homeless person arrested because they make you uncomfortable, or shitting all over the group in general on the internet (insinuating they're all junkies, violent, or etc) is negatively impacting another person's life - whereas me choosing to make a rant thread, is not negatively impacting another person's life unless they choose to read and dwell upon it.

        • ProspectiveDarkness on 07/07/2016 - 22:57

          @woolfenstein:

          It's laughable how hard you're pushing to misrepresent the OP to justify your outrage.

          OP only wants the guy moved on, not arrested. He mentioned that the police may arrest the guy if they found drugs, or if he was found to be mentally unstable and refused to comply. So it's not like OP is screaming for the guy to be arrested. The only person screaming here is you.

          unless they choose to read and dwell upon it.

          You're choosing to dwell on OP's post. You can walk away from the computer any time. Unfortunately, OP can't really walk away from the guy camped outside his front door. You're the petty one here, not OP.

  • ramb9 on 07/07/2016 - 16:56
    +1

    woolfenstein, private property, or apartment complex aside, I believe no one "normal" would want a guy who smells, needles himself, leaving rubbish around living near their own property.

    Just imagine a guy like this camping on the little green patch of grass outside your house, or near your house. Maybe even next door on the next door guy's grass patch.

    I hardly comment, but seriously…?

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:09
      -1

      If he was not on my property, or specifically causing me a problem, I would accept I do not have control over how someone else lives. You shouldn't seek to make someone else's life more difficult because you are afraid they might impact yours.

      • obiwanmy on 07/07/2016 - 17:49
        +2

        Well, if you have kids, would your view change ? While you might be able to control yourself from going over to another's man land, kids unfortunately is unable to make such assessment ….. just my 2 cents.

  • chumlee on 07/07/2016 - 17:21
    -2

    You are my hero.
    You are the wind beneath my wings
    You make me want to be a better man

    Actually, you make me yawn with your rant.

    Go be Facebook friends with Pope Benedict

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:22
      -2

      Thanks for taking the time to comment, Chum!

    • Forfiet on 07/07/2016 - 20:42

      ….can you be friends with Pope Benedict on facebook??

  • PJC on 07/07/2016 - 17:22

    OP could PM member sirlothie with his own address and invite that squatter to live just outside. Subsequent complaints about needles will be fanciful. This afternoon I became a relatively priveleged, filthy capitalist, so I won't provide my address.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 17:24

      I don't think I want someone like sirlothie knowing my personal details. I'd be happier to speak to the homeless man directly.

      • stemcell on 07/07/2016 - 17:29

        I'd have more time for the homeless man than the person behind sirlothie.

    • No on 07/07/2016 - 17:40
      +1

      You know when you think about it all of us here are relatively privileged.

      We are also buying stuff all over the place and doing it at bottom dollar = filthy capitalist.

      I don't mind being called relatively privileged filthy capitalist because that's what I am.

      • tsunamisurfer on 07/07/2016 - 18:10
        +1

        That makes 2 people in this thread that doesn't understand what a Capitalist is.

        • No on 07/07/2016 - 18:22

          Thank you for pointing out my error :) I had a google and now feel that I am just relatively privileged hehe

  • GarrusVakarian on 07/07/2016 - 18:20
    +2

    The similarities between this thread and the thread OP is complaining about is striking!

  • dm01 on 07/07/2016 - 18:52

    OP's grasp on reality seems dubious - trust levels abnormally high, Spidey-sense dangerously diminished…

  • harrribo on 07/07/2016 - 18:53

    I saw a booklet in a Sydney Salvation Army op shop today

    " Sydney Homeless Connect's "

    HOMELESS SERVICES GUIDE BOOK

    SYDNEY 2016

    sydneyhomelessconnect.com

    there might be some information for people who want to help homeless people by passing on the information found there , they might not know -just an idea

    also … the SALVOS phone contact is 1300371288

  • RobMel on 07/07/2016 - 19:31
    +5

    Blindly attacking a whole community for the comments of some is always the best way to convince people you are right.
    Well done.

  • pikapika on 07/07/2016 - 19:32

    Flaming much?

  • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 21:48
    +1

    next up- waxing lyrical about the advantages of socialism. I really do hate 1st year political science uni students, think they can throw around the capitalist word like its a bad thing. The fellow in the car, junkie or not, is trespassing on the communal, not community, property of the unit block and needs to be moved on.

    • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2016 - 22:53

      Commerce. Done quite some time ago now. Capitalism is unsustainable. Cheers.

  • Cheap Steve on 07/07/2016 - 22:14

    Privileged not Priveleged. You're welcome.

  • Moderatorneil on 07/07/2016 - 23:00

    OK, I think the OP has expressed their point of view and this thread is now closed.

    OzBargain is a community where people can express their opinions whether you think they are right or wrong. However as a reminder, personal attacks including abuse, name calling and malicious comments directed at a person or a group of people are unacceptable.

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