400 Lumens LED 'Retro Style' Filament Globe - $5 @ Bunnings Warehouse

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K1ngJony on 21/06/2016 - 14:15 files.ozbargain.com.au (1390 clicks)
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I have not used these type of globes before so I can't really give any sort of feedback on them but I just saw a massive box full of them during my last trip to Bunnings Toowoomba West (Not sure if they have them on sale anywhere else, they don't seem to have a page on the website). Produces 400 Lumens of light and is a warm white (2700K). There was plenty there with both ES and BC fittings. To my understanding they are Bunnings homebrand (Click).

Pictures of packaging: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AosrhDFxqfXQvb8uv8rYaPmiWxPTWw

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  guidedlight on 21/06/2016 - 14:22

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  These are equivalent to 40 watt bulbs.
  The "Retro Style" in your title is redundant, as they are simply Filament LED's… nothing more, nothing less.

  Filament LED's are generally very good, and offer a higher Lumens/Watt than standard bulbs. However cheap ones can have a problem with excessive blue-light leakage (but I can't comment on the click ones).

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    K1ngJony on 21/06/2016 - 14:31

    Thanks for that, I wasn't aware that "Retro Style" Filaments weren't a thing. I'll update the title accordingly.

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      Gotchacha on 21/06/2016 - 14:37

      +10

      I think you were fine to use the word 'retro' - it says it on the packaging. Helped me know it was what I was looking for!

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        K1ngJony on 21/06/2016 - 15:27

        Yeah, that's the reason I put it in the title, cuz it says it on the packaging. I'll put it back then, makes it a bit more descriptive.

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        guidedlight on 21/06/2016 - 18:50

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        Okay, far enough.

        BTW, there are definitely Retro-style LED Filament bulbs out there.
        http://vintageled.com.au/products/st64-filament-long

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        K1ngJony on 21/06/2016 - 19:15

        @guidedlight: Ooh, yeah, now that's really retro! Personally I would call that vintage though, I know they mean the same thing but that's just how I see it.

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  SteveAndBelle on 21/06/2016 - 14:38

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  Might check out my local Bunnies. I use the 'fancy round' versions of these in a few strings of Festoon Lights to great effect. All the great properties of LED lighting but with that 'Retro Style' look of an old filament bulb so I would've left that in the title ;) Bought all mine direct from China for around $3 per lamp so $5 for local stock is very good indeed. Cheers OP!

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  aim54x on 21/06/2016 - 14:49

  These seem pretty cheap. I will try to get to my local to see if they have the same deal (Sydney based)

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  lomie on 21/06/2016 - 15:46

  +1

  For those not wanting to live in the past, Bunnings sells 'modern' Click 5W LED globes in a twin pack for $7.50. I can't seem to find these on their website.

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  No on 21/06/2016 - 15:50

  I was at Bunnings Belmont (WA) the other day and they had a lot of these in the clearance bin as well. I can't remember the price.

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  [Deactivated] on 21/06/2016 - 15:59

  Was at a lighting place a few weeks ago. Some filament LEDs aren't long-lived according to them.

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    [Deactivated] on 21/06/2016 - 22:32

    Yes the lighting place wanted you to buy their horrendously overpriced globe.

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      [Deactivated] on 21/06/2016 - 22:42

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      You a psychic cynic by chance? In FACT she wasn't selling us a pup at all, just making sure we knew the limitations of the various products. Gotta love good honest service.

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        llama on 21/06/2016 - 23:47

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        In FACT…

        You got sucked in hook, line and sinker.

        Gotta love good honest service.

        I work in the lighting industry. Some sales people tell you a lot of absolute bullshit, (simply because they know no better) according to me.

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        [Deactivated] on 22/06/2016 - 11:27

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        @llama: Another know it all psychic? With your self-acclaimed knowledge I'd expect you're a leading researcher? Nbl. You have no idea what we were looking at, what questions were asked, or exactly what we were told. Despite your miraculous claims of omniscience, the woman was on the ball, knew what she was talking about, and wasn't looking for a sale. A second lighting retailer confimed what she said based on his and his customers' experience with the product.

        My original comment was simply to alert people to the fact that there are LEDs and there are LEDs. They aren't all equally reliable and many won't give you the claimed 20,000+ hours of use. Caveat emptor, and despite what you think there are plenty of good lighting retailers who will tell you the pros and cons of various products. It's likely some of them were in business before you were born.

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        llama on 22/06/2016 - 15:34

        @Possumbly:

        My original comment was simply to alert people to the fact that there are LEDs and there are LEDs. They aren't all equally reliable and many won't give you the claimed 20,000+ hours of use.

        Yep, I 100% agree with you. My opinion is that most LED products sold to consumers would be lucky to achieve 20,000… let alone the 50,000 that some claim. This is generally caused by consumer's focus on initial purchase price - and tends to drive "lowest common denominator" products to the forefront.

        So (for example) a $5 Click Gu10 will get absolutely tons more sales than a better engineered lamp that sells for $15. The fact that the cheapo one fails is of no relevance to the supplier who missed out on the sale (as they were deemed too dear).

        Caveat emptor, and despite what you think there are plenty of good lighting retailers who will tell you the pros and cons of various products.

        Yes, I suppose there are a few left somewhere out there. Unfortunately, the misinformed ones far outnumber them… so the danger is that people who sound convincing (or work in lighting stores) are not always particularly knowledgeable about lighting.

        The biggest danger is that the salespeople actually don't know - they just listen to the supplier's reps and regurgitate whatever bullshit story they've been told. Also be aware that many retailers are pushing their own house brands. Without any long term comparisons of large volumes, there is no point of reference re: what's good or bad.

        It's likely some of them were in business before you were born.

        Maybe… the old school people (me included) from the 1970's and 1980's use a business ethic that is not as commercially viable now days as it was back then. You don't win many lighting orders for being honest now days. The new generation of consumers don't want to learn and make informed decisions - they purchase from the supplier who gives then the quickest answer, providing it is what they want to hear.

        So, the fact that your lighting sales person said "Some filament LEDs aren't long-lived" isn't particularly helpful. It's true, in the same way that the statement "some people prefer sugar in their coffee" is true… but offers no value in making a purchasing decision.

        Is the Filament globe in this deal a good one or a bad one? Will it last 20,000 hours like the manufacturer claims? Who knows… let's buy some, and get back in touch in about 3 years time. By which time we won't be able to buy them again anyway.

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        [Deactivated] on 22/06/2016 - 16:22

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        @llama: Did I say the sales woman said that? No, in FACT that was my summation from the discussion we had with her. In FACT she indicated that a few varieties of filament bulbs they had on display were not even lasting a year. How's that for honesty? In FACT, there was no sucking in, sucking up or sucking the sauce bottle for that matter. We walked in to see what was the available, get an idea of prices etc and walked out much better informed about a whole range of lighting options without having spent a penny. All four of us agreed it was bloody good value.

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        llama on 22/06/2016 - 17:52

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        @Possumbly:

        Did I say the sales woman said that?

        You said "Some filament LEDs aren't long-lived according to them"

        and then "A second lighting retailer confimed what she said"

        No, in FACT that was my summation from the discussion we had with her

        Ahhh… um… I see. So, the sales woman didn't say it after all?

        Based on your story (words posted) my own summation is:

        FACT: You gained no information about the filament lamp in THIS deal. The Click 4W lamp sold by Bunnings.

        FACT: Based on your story, the most factual information that you learnt from the so-called "honest" sales woman is that some of the products that THEY sell are absolute crap.

        So, whilst you had a good experience in the store, it doesn't really count for anything in regards to this particular deal.

        I actually posted below about why some of the cheap lamps don't last (due to the lack of a proper "LED driver", and even posted a link to a video if you would like to learn more.

        Anyway yes, some filament lamps don't last very long. And yes, some toilet paper makes your bum itch.

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        [Deactivated] on 22/06/2016 - 18:52

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        @llama: glad you've finally worked what everyone else gathered straight away from my comment. It was a simple enough observation with a simple enough motive. Your self-aggrandisement is noted but let me assure you you have not even the faintest idea of the quality of the stores, their products, or the advice.

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        llama on 23/06/2016 - 04:19

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        @Possumbly:

        glad you've finally worked what everyone else gathered straight away from my comment

        Nope, I still haven't a clue… hence my questions.

        you have not even the faintest idea of the quality of the stores, their products, or the advice.

        No, however I learnt from you that they sell a lot of poor quality filament lamps LOL

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        [Deactivated] on 23/06/2016 - 11:53

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        @llama: "Nope, I still haven't a clue". Good to see you take ownership.

        You need to get out more, preferably to places with wide doors and no mirrors. There are plenty of LED filament globes around which are very stylish and low energy yet likely won't last much longer than old incandescents. As in every field some people are obviously prepared to cop the bad with the good and pay for style over substance. Nothing complicated about it.

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  fritzsticker on 21/06/2016 - 16:23

  Two of my click gu10 globes had early death.. Not the 20,000 hour life cycle as advertised..

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    excite on 21/06/2016 - 17:41

    I just bought the 4 pack gu10 for $5, maybe that is why these are on clearance

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    llama on 21/06/2016 - 23:50

    Two of my click gu10 globes had early death

    Click are pretty much the bottom of the barrel. It doesn't get much more cheap and nasty than that brand.

    And Gu10 lamps are almost 100% the worst type, since the heat of the LED directly heats up the part that fails (the LED driver).

    And the Click ones have no heatsinking, etc - they are little heat bombs (try touching one when they are running).

    You'd be lucky to get 20,000 hours out of any consumer-grade Gu10, let alone a $5 el-cheapo like Click.

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  llama on 21/06/2016 - 23:59

  Big Clive has a really interesting Youtube channel if you like seeing cheap chinese crap (and lots of LED lamps) being ripped apart and tested…

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJKq-igxJI

  That link is to a teardown of a very similar 4W LED filament bulb. Looks identical from the OP's photos on OneDrive. If it's the same, as the Big Clive terdown, then it has a proper driver inside it!

  I note that a search of Bunnings site shows only Philips brand filament LEDs now. About $20 each LOL.

  Note the simple "capacitive dropper" drivers in some of these cheap lamps has no regulation so they are pretty horrendous in technical terms. But that's fine for $5 each.